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PostPosted: 10/20/09 7:06 am • # 1 
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I see Baucus [who has been heavily funded by the health insurance industry] as a sell-out ~ and I do like Rockefeller ~ he's a smart and savvy guy ~ and this exposes some of the complexities AND concerns that need to be addressed and hammered out ~ Sooz


By Igor Volsky at 1:30 pm

Criticism From The Left: Rockefeller Registers Valid Concerns About The Baucus Bill »

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) has long argued that the Baucus health care bill does not do enough to improve affordability and protect Americans from predatory insurance practices. The Senator voted the bill out of committee with grave reservations - reservations he has spelled out in a 13 page document now posted on the Committee's website.

The document, which does not does not include objections to the low penalties for the individual mandate, excise taxes on so-called "Cadillac plans," the so-called young invincibles program or the low creditable coverage standards offered in the bill, offers the most comprehensive progressive critique of the Baucus legislation. Specifically, Rockefeller is concerned about the lack of a public option and the lax enforcement and accountability measures, limited regulation of self-insured plans, the free rider provision, ineffective co-operatives, benefit standards for newly enrolled Medicaid patients, employer wellness programs, the Medicare Commission, and the failsafe proposal. (Be sure to hit "More" to use the above hyperlinks.)

Below is a summary of Rockefeller's concerns:

CONCERN: The Baucus bill showers private insurers with $461 billion of taxpayer- funded subsidies but does not force insurers to compete with a public option or hold the industry accountable:

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- Rockefeller debunks the industry argument that a public option that reimburses at or slightly above Medicare rates would shift costs to Americans with private insurance. As MedPAC explained in its March 2009 report to Congress, "while insurers appear to be unable or unwilling to push back' and restrain payments to providers, they have been able to pass costs on to the purchasers of insurance and maintain their profit margins." The CBO has indicated that many hospitals negotiate higher payments with private insurers as a form of price discrimination to maximize profits. They demand higher reimbursements from health insurers because they can, not because they are shifting costs.

- Therefore, "the real issue is not whether private plans pay doctors and hospitals more than government programs, but what is a fair rate based on the actual cost of providing quality care. "One of the major disappointments of the Committee mark is the lack of leverage over private health insurance industry prices….The Committee mark spends nearly one-half trillion dollars in federal premium subsidies to supplement high private health insurance costs, rather than to bring those high costs down for consumers," Rockefeller notes. "If an average family premium is $13,375, a family wishing to enroll in the public health insurance option could save $1,338 - $2,676."

- "The Committee mark does not include any new federal resources or infrastructure to regulate private health insurance companies and make certain they are actually abiding by the new insurance market rules. Without a new, robust federal regulatory role, I remain extremely concerned that private health insurance companies will continue their long-standing practice of exploiting loopholes in the law and skimming on coverage for beneficiaries to increase profits."

CONCERN: The insurance reforms in the Baucus Bill do not apply to the 50% of Americans who purchase coverage from employers that self-insure and may prove inadequate:

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- "The Committee mark only includes two new reforms of self-insured plans - they must provide coverage that is at least equal to 65 percent of the actuarial value of the Blue Cross Blue Shield standard plan offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan (FEHBP), and they must provide first dollar coverage for preventive health benefits."

- "The Committee mark eliminates pre-existing condition exclusions in the individual and small group markets. However, these provisions are not phased-in until July 1, 2013….The prohibition on pre-existing condition exclusions is phased-in for large group plans over five years beginning in 2017, and the prohibition does not apply to the self-insured market."

- "The bill also prohibits large-employer plans (including self-insured plans) from implementing "unreasonable" annual or lifetime limits, although the term "unreasonable" is undefined. I remain concerned that the mark does not implement a complete prohibition on annual and lifetime limits for large employer plans, including those in the self-insured market."

- "While reporting of medical loss ratios is an important first step, I remain concerned that the Committee mark does not require private health insurance companies, particularly those offering federally subsidized coverage through the state exchanges, to spend the majority of the nearly one-half trillion dollars in federal premium subsidies on actual medical care."

CONCERN: The 'free rider provision' could jeopardize the employment of lower-income Americans:

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- "I remain concerned that this provision provides a disincentive for employers to hire or maintain employment for low-wage workers. It would be particularly burdensome for states, like West Virginia, with a higher percentage of low-wage workers."

CONCERN: Co-operatives won't have any impact on health insurance markets:

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- "In its preliminary score of the Committee mark, CBO states that "the proposed co-ops had very little effect on the estimates of total enrollment in the exchanges or federal costs because, as they are described in the specifications, they seem unlikely to establish a significant market presence in many areas of the country or to noticeably affect federal subsidy payments."

- "As I have asserted throughout this debate, health insurance cooperatives are not a substitute for a strong public health insurance option. Additionally, I remain seriously concerned about the viability of consumer health cooperatives in the health insurance marketplace at all."

CONCERN: Newly enrolled Medicaid populations would receive inferior care:

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- "As part of the Medicaid expansion, all newly-eligible, non-pregnant adults would receive a benchmark benefit package consistent with section 1937 of the Social Security Act, which was passed as part of the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005….Specifically, the DRA allows states to offer more limited benefits for some groups and to offer different benefits to different groups of enrollees."

- "While the DRA gave states the option of implementing so-called "flexible" benefit, packages, the language included in the Committee mark makes DRA benefit reductions mandatory for newly-eligible populations, which effectively undermines the Medicaid entitlement."

- "Beginning in 2014, non-elderly, non-pregnant adults between 100 percent ($22,050 for a family of four) and 133 percent of poverty ($29,327 for a family of four) would be able to choose between Medicaid and coverage through their state exchange. This provision is estimated to cost $20 billion over the budget window, largely because private insurance is much more costly - approximately 25 percent more costly - than Medicaid, which is more efficient and provides better coverage. This $20 billion is in addition to the $461 billion that we are giving private insurers in federal tax subsidies."

CONCERN: Allowing employers to "reward" employees who meet certain "wellness" benchmarks could lead to discrimination against sicker workers.

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- "The Committee mark would codify the existing HIPPA non-discrimination regulation relating to workplace wellness programs. This rule allows employers or issuing plans to provide "rewards" for employees' participation in a wellness program or for meeting certain health status targets associated with that program. Employers, under the regulation, can provide a reward (or penalty for those who do not participate or do not meet certain health status targets) to participants of up to 20 percent of the total cost of the plan."

- "I am very concerned that these provisions are discriminatory and have not been shown to be effective. In addition to posing problems for people with less-than-perfect health, the premium "incentives" would unfairly penalize people who have other barriers to participation in such programs, like working mothers or people who work two or more jobs."

CONCERN: The Medicare Commission excludes certain provider groups from payment cuts and does not go far enough in implementing delivery system reforms:

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- "The providers protected from the Commission's recommendations constitute half, if not more, of total Medicare spending. By including a carve-out of any kind to protect a subset of providers, I am concerned that Commission is fundamentally unsound because it is barred from looking at Medicare from a comprehensive perspective….I am particularly concerned about CBO's assumption that limiting the Commission's options for exploring greater efficiencies in Medicare means that the Commission is likely to decrease premium subsidies for Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in the prescription drug program."

- "I also remain concerned that the trigger for the Commission to issue recommendations is tied to excess cost growth in the Medicare program as it relates to growth in the gross domestic product, instead of being tied to the solvency of the Medicare program. The original intent of the MedPAC Reform Act was to create an independent commission to drive Medicare quality improvement and increase the efficiency of the program, so that it continues to exist for seniors and individuals with disabilities ten, twenty, and fifty years down the line. It was never meant to cut costs just for the sake of cutting costs."

CONCERN: The failsafe provision would automatically decrease premium subsidies for families:

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- "This so-called 'failsafe' provision has the potential to undermine critical affordability of health insurance. The failsafe provision would automatically decrease premium subsidies for low- and middle-income families who would be relying on them to purchase insurance. I am also concerned that the annual nature of the review realistically means that it will make subsidized coverage unstable for consumers because the subsidies will fluctuate based on the budget."

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 3:34 am • # 2 
I think it was yesterday , that Jay Rockerfellar was warming to that opt in and opt out ' compromise ' I suppose it is being called , for the public option inclusion. As I understand the opt out , that means states could opt out. So I guess some states like South Carolina , LA maybe , Oklahoma , maybe TX and some others known for being vocal of not wanting a public option could choose to deny that option to the people in their states. Is this isn't the way that works please correct me.


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 4:35 am • # 3 
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i actually kinda like that option. f(*k those states.


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 4:45 am • # 4 
I'd like to see the uninsured percentages of each of the states and how that might stack up to the states most likely to go for an opt out.

TX the last I read had the highest percentage of uninsured , and HI and Minnesota had the lowest percentage. To date I have not seen or looked into finding the entire list of states and uninsured.


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 5:38 am • # 5 
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susanne, this is the most current info I could find ~ the link is: http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?ind=125&cat=3 ~ I arranged the chart from lowest percentage of uninsured to highest ~ don't forget that Massachusetts being lowest in percentage of uninsured is virtually 100% due to the near-UHC approach championed and pushed by Romney [who is ANTI the same approach for the US as a whole] ~ I'm VERY confident the percentages have risen, likely significantly, given how deep the recession has reached in 2009 ~ Sooz


Health Insurance Coverage of the Total Population, states (2007-2008), U.S. (2008)


Rank
(1=low | 51=high)
Employer Individual Medicaid Medicare Other Public Uninsured Total
United States 52.3% 4.7% 14.1% 12.4% 1.2% 15.4% 100.0%
1. Massachusetts 60.8% 3.4% 17.4% 12.6% 0.4% 5.4% 100.0%
2. Hawaii 60.0% 2.7% 12.3% 13.8% 3.2% 7.9% 100.0%
3. Minnesota 60.8% 5.9% 11.9% 12.3% 0.5% 8.5% 100.0%
4. Wisconsin 59.5% 5.2% 13.2% 12.6% 0.6% 9.0% 100.0%
5. Iowa 59.2% 6.2% 11.6% 12.9% 0.7% 9.4% 100.0%
6. Maine 50.4% 4.5% 19.9% 14.0% 1.6% 9.6% 100.0%
7. Connecticut 60.1% 4.6% 11.5% 13.6% 0.5% 9.7% 100.0%
8. District of Columbia 53.5% 6.0% 20.2% 10.1% 0.4% 9.8% 100.0%
8. Pennsylvania 56.8% 5.1% 12.9% 15.2% 0.3% 9.8% 100.0%
10. Vermont 53.2% 3.4% 19.2% 13.5% 0.5% 10.3% 100.0%
11. New Hampshire 65.1% 4.3% 6.9% 12.5% 0.8% 10.4% 100.0%
12. North Dakota 56.9% 9.4% 8.7% 12.6% 1.5% 11.0% 100.0%
13. Delaware 57.4% 3.9% 12.9% 14.0% 0.8% 11.1% 100.0%
14. Rhode Island 55.6% 4.6% 14.8% 13.0% 0.7% 11.3% 100.0%
15. South Dakota 53.9% 7.5% 10.2% 14.7% 2.4% 11.4% 100.0%
16. Ohio 57.6% 4.2% 12.3% 13.4% 0.9% 11.6% 100.0%
17. Michigan 56.7% 4.0% 13.5% 13.8% 0.4% 11.7% 100.0%
18. Indiana 58.1% 3.5% 12.7% 13.4% 0.5% 11.9% 100.0%
19. Alabama 55.2% 3.3% 14.2% 14.6% 0.8% 12.0% 100.0%
19. Washington 55.8% 5.7% 12.8% 11.1% 2.7% 12.0% 100.0%
21. Kansas 55.5% 6.5% 11.2% 12.2% 2.1% 12.5% 100.0%
22. Missouri 53.8% 5.0% 13.1% 14.2% 1.3% 12.6% 100.0%
22. Nebraska 57.4% 6.4% 10.6% 11.5% 1.5% 12.6% 100.0%
24. Maryland 60.5% 4.4% 9.9% 11.2% 1.0% 12.9% 100.0%
25. Utah 62.5% 7.3% 8.2% 8.2% 0.9% 13.0% 100.0%
26. Illinois 57.7% 4.4% 12.6% 11.6% 0.6% 13.2% 100.0%
27. New York 51.2% 3.6% 19.4% 11.8% 0.3% 13.6% 100.0%
28. Wyoming 54.7% 6.6% 10.3% 12.6% 2.1% 13.7% 100.0%
29. Virginia 57.6% 4.4% 8.6% 12.2% 3.5% 13.8% 100.0%
30. West Virginia 49.6% 2.4% 14.8% 17.4% 1.2% 14.6% 100.0%
31. Idaho 53.5% 7.1% 10.7% 12.7% 1.1% 14.8% 100.0%
31. Kentucky 49.8% 4.0% 16.0% 14.3% 1.0% 14.8% 100.0%
31. Tennessee 47.5% 5.1% 16.6% 13.6% 2.4% 14.8% 100.0%
34. New Jersey 59.0% 3.8% 9.1% 12.6% 0.5% 14.9% 100.0%
35. Montana 47.8% 7.2% 12.2% 14.8% 2.1% 15.9% 100.0%
36. North Carolina 49.8% 5.1% 13.8% 13.2% 2.2% 16.0% 100.0%
36. Oklahoma 48.5% 4.4% 14.3% 14.2% 2.5% 16.0% 100.0%
38. South Carolina 50.8% 4.0% 13.1% 14.4% 1.5% 16.1% 100.0%
39. Colorado 56.6% 6.7% 8.6% 9.6% 2.4% 16.2% 100.0%
40. Oregon 52.7% 5.8% 11.4% 12.9% 0.7% 16.6% 100.0%
41. Arkansas 45.9% 4.4% 16.5% 14.2% 2.0% 17.0% 100.0%
42. Georgia 54.8% 3.4% 12.2% 10.1% 1.7% 17.8% 100.0%
43. Nevada 58.4% 3.7% 7.8% 11.0% 1.2% 18.0% 100.0%
44. Mississippi 43.7% 4.1% 21.2% 11.2% 1.4% 18.4% 100.0%
45. California 49.1% 6.1% 16.6% 9.1% 0.6% 18.5% 100.0%
46. Arizona 47.0% 4.7% 16.8% 11.4% 1.2% 18.9% 100.0%
47. Louisiana 46.9% 4.9% 15.8% 12.5% 0.6% 19.3% 100.0%
48. Alaska 52.0% 4.2% 11.9% 6.8% 5.6% 19.4% 100.0%
49. Florida 46.7% 5.2% 10.1% 16.5% 1.3% 20.2% 100.0%
50. New Mexico 41.2% 5.3% 16.0% 11.8% 2.5% 23.2% 100.0%
51. Texas 45.6% 4.1% 13.5% 10.2% 1.4% 25.2% 100.0%
Notes:

Percentages may not sum to 100% due to rounding effects.

For current Medicaid and Medicare enrollment figures, please refer to the Medicaid & SCHIP and "Medicare" sections, respectively, which report enrollment data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).

SCHIP and individuals eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid (dual eligibles) are included in Medicaid.

Other Public (Federal) includes individuals covered through the military or Veterans Administration in federally-funded programs such as TRICARE (formerly CHAMPUS) as well as some non-elderly Medicare enrollees.

For more details, see "Notes to Demographic and Health Coverage Topics Based on the Current Population Survey (CPS)" at
http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/methodology.


Sources:


Urban Institute and Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured estimates based on the Census Bureau's March 2008 and 2009 Current Population Survey (CPS: Annual Social and Economic Supplements).



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PostPosted: 10/22/09 5:47 am • # 6 
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Interesting and VERY telling is that the bottom half of this chart, the states with the highest percentage of uninsured, is composed of virtually ALL traditionally "red" states ~ Illinois and New York being the obvious exceptions ~

Sooz


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 5:54 am • # 7 
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disposible income seems to have an influence as well.


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 5:57 am • # 8 
Thanks Sooz ! I was thinking there might be that connection.

I also was thinking about some of this in lieu of a few of the comments noted at the town halls with the comment by those obviously on medicare stating they didn't want their medicare private insurance taken away. I wish I could say that I found a comment like that unbelievable.


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PostPosted: 10/22/09 5:57 am • # 9 
good point macro


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susanne, if you go to the link in my #4 post, you can arrange the chart in any order you want by simply clicking the column title ~

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I agree with all of his concerns. I doubt they will be addressed for decades if he and others continue to vote for something that doesn't take them into consideration.


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PostPosted: 10/23/09 9:01 am • # 12 
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Rockefeller is terrific ~ the last 2 paragraphs here are exceptionally important to understand [bolding is mine] ~ Sooz


By Igor Volsky at 4:23 pm

Rockefeller Questions CBO's Assertion That Tort Reform Could Save $54 Billion

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) doesn't believe the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) when it says that tort reform could reduce the use of 'defensive medicine' and save the federal government $54 billion over 10 years. In a six page letter to 'Doug' (Elmendorf, the director of the CBO), Rockefeller points out that the CBO recent conclusion reverses years of precedent and relies on academic studies that actually undermine the budget office's final conclusion:

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CBO's recent letter to Senator Hatch creates more questions that it answers. The several cited reports contain conflicting data, which tends to support CBO's prior conclusion that the evidence available on the issue of defensive medicine is "inconsistent" and "mixed." It is impossible for CBO to conclude that we will see cost savings from a reduction in health care services without analyzing the effects on patient health.

"CBO has repeatedly concluded that cost savings associated with medical malpractice reforms would be minimal and the at evidence concerning defensive medicine is 'inconsistent,'" Rockefeller writes, noting that the budget office has previously determined that "the effect of medical malpractice reform "would be relativley small - less than 0.5 percent of total health care spending" and would "save [only] $5.6 billion over 10 years."

Indeed, states that have adopted tort reform have failed to significantly lower health care costs. When Texas capped non economic medical malpractice damages to $250,000 in 2003, most conservatives argued that the reform would free doctors from having to prescribe unnecessary treatment. It didn't happen. According to the Dartmouth research on disparities in health care spending, many Texan doctors are still prescribing aggressive treatments that don't improve outcomes. In fact, as of 2006, Texas was still at the top of the list of high-spending states.

A physician's motivation for engaging in 'defensive' behavior or overtreatment is far more complicated than the fear of lawsuits, health expert Maggie Mahar explained during an interview with the Wonk Room:

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It may be that he saw a case like this once before and it went sour, and he doesn't know why and so he wants to be extra careful. It may be that he has been seeing Ms. O'Connell for years, she is a dear person and he really cares for her and he just wants to make sure that no stone is left unturned. Could be that he has been seeing Ms. O'Connell for years, she is a pain in the ass, and he knows that if he doesn't order every treatment that her neighbor says he needs, he's going to be hearing from her. And it could be that he is afraid of being sued. If I were the doctor, I wouldn't be able to untangle my motives and say to what degree fear of malpractice suits is driving my actions.

Experts believe that the current reimbursement structure does more to shape practice patterns than fear of liability. "The current health system reimburses doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers based on the number of visits and procedures that are done. As a result, health care providers' revenues and profits increase when they deliver more services and the cost of health care goes up," Ellen-Marie Whelan, a Senior Policy Analyst at the Center for American Progress, wrote in a recent report.

The current reform legislation attempts to re-align the incentives in the current system. It encourages providers to coordinate primary care services, expands pilot programs that reimburse providers in bundles and for episodes of care and allows the Secretary of Health and Human Services or the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services to expand successful models. These kinds of reforms have saved money in places like Cleveland Clinic and the Mayo Clinic and will likely do more to reduce defensive medicine than the largely unsubstantiated reliance on tort reform.

http://thinkprogress.org



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PostPosted: 10/23/09 9:14 am • # 13 
Yes, this is one issue where Rockefeller is finally taking a firm stand and doing a good job of representing his constituents. And, he has been doing a great job of supporting healthcare in our state. I like that he has the sense to not just read the concluding sentence in a report, but to actually read the report itself and see if the data actually fit the conclusion. Unfortunately, we don't hear from him often enough on other issues.


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