KERPEN: It is a very big week because the FCC on Thursday is going to decide what the future of the Internet looks like, if it looks much like the past 10 years where you have private competition and pretty much people can do what they want on the Internet or whether we have a much, much heavier government hand. And they're going to take the first step on that Thursday.

BECK: OK. I want to start just real quick - Net neutrality, because it happens on Thursday. This is that everybody should have free Internet, right?

KERPEN: Well, essentially. You know, they dress it up the way they dress up a lot of their things. They turn it upside-down by saying that evil corporations, phone and cable corporations are going to block what we can do block or we can say.

At the most basic level, net neutrality is the principle that Internet users should be in control of what content they view and what applications they use on the Internet; all content on the Internet is equally accessible, and once a person pays for access to the Internet, they alone get to choose how they use it. This means that providers should not be allowed to block access to certain sites or applications, or charge different customers different amounts for services.

Phil Kerpen is the policy director for Americans for prosperity and the chairman of Internet Freedom Coalition. This is a big week, isn't it, for freedom of speech?

PHIL KERPEN, POLICY DIRECTOR, AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY: It is a very big week because the FCC on Thursday is going to decide what the future of the Internet looks like, if it looks much like the past 10 years where you have private competition and pretty much people can do what they want on the Internet or whether we have a much, much heavier government hand. And they're going to take the first step on that Thursday.

BECK: OK. I want to start just real quick - Net neutrality, because it happens on Thursday. This is that everybody should have free Internet, right?

KERPEN: Well, essentially. You know, they dress it up the way they dress up a lot of their things. They turn it upside-down by saying that evil corporations, phone and cable corporations are going to block what we can do block or we can say.

BECK: Correct.

KERPEN: And the government must save us by stepping in and regulating it.

BECK: Right. OK. And everybody should have it. I don't remember anybody saying in the 1930s that everybody had a right to radio and we gave away free radios for the government.

And I don't remember anybody in the '50s everybody deserved a free television, but that's where we're headed now. So that neutrality - I want to get to that later on in the week.

But here it is - freedom of speech. You have a freedom of speech or the government. You can't really have both. Now, I was looking at all the things that they're doing here. FOX - and help me out where I'm going awry. They're going after FOX because we're the only ones that are speaking out a bit against this.

They're coming also after me because I'm just not thinking right, I'm a danger. And this is really all about profit. That's all this is. We couldn't possibly believe it. It's about profit. We're dangerous, and we just - we don't understand.

Newspapers, however, are right thinking. They get it. They're helpful, but they don't have any money. So what does the government want to do? They want to bail these guys out, right?

KERPEN: That's exactly right. We've got a president who has now said he's open to the idea of bailing out newspapers. And I've got a pretty interesting quote.

President Obama said - he said, "I'd be happy to look." He said, "I haven't seen detailed proposals yet, but I'd be happy to look at them," for bailing out newspapers because, quote, "I am concerned that if the direction of the news is all blogosphere, all opinions and no serious fact checking, what you will end up with is people shouting at each other."

So we need the government's support in newspapers, the right-thinking newspapers.

BECK: Well, if I'm not mistaken, they're really going for a new model of PBS. They believe - I mean, a lot of the people in the FCC now believe that PBS is the way to go. It should all be government - like the BBC, right?

KERPEN: Absolutely. That's the model that people like Mark Lloyd like of the FCC, as well as Robert McChesney, the founder of Free Press, have, for years, been pushing …

BECK: Oh, yes.

KERPEN: … for huge taxes on commercial broadcasting to pay for vastly expanded public broadcasting under control of government.

BECK: OK. America, you need to understand this. This is about your right to speak out, because I want to show you all this week - in fact, let me show you this before we go to break. Underneath here, and I was going to unveil this today. But I decided no, no, no, we'll wait. We'll wait. Just for a little while, we'll wait - maybe tomorrow.

What's underneath this? Oh, don't you want to see what's behind curtain number one? Behind this is the architecture - everything that they're doing and who's doing it and why they're doing it. And when you see the radicals under this, it will make your head spin. More on your freedom of speech and the fight between your right to speak out and big government, next.