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PostPosted: 11/25/09 5:01 am • # 1 
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I really like Clarence Page and this is another terrific read from him ~ for many, "race" is emotional and I believe based in fear of the unknown, the different ~ and for even more many, "candid talk" about emotional issues is near impossible ~ I also believe that the color of our skin, or the slant of our eyes, or the language we speak, or the deity we pray to or don't pray to, is only a fairly superficial marker of who we each really are ~ and I deeply believe that the vast majority of us are far more alike than we are different ~ Sooz


Race haunts politics

Will it ever be OK to go there without name-calling?

Clarence Page
November 25, 2009

He takes it back. In a recent interview Attorney General
Eric Holder conceded that, if he had it to do over again, he might have chosen another less incendiary word than "cowards" in his now-notorious Black History Month speech to describe the way Americans tend to avoid candid talk about race.

I wasn't surprised. Public backlash over his use of the C-word gave him a fast lesson in why so many of us Americans have become too cowardly to talk candidly about race. We're afraid of being called "politically incorrect" or outright "racist."

Yet, we can't shrug off the baggage of history that easily. Questions about race keep coming up, since race continues to be a subtext of our politics like little land mines of "gotcha" moments -- like the one on which Holder stepped.

You can hear it in the question that haunts the mostly white makeup of populist conservatives in the anti-tax tea party rallies, the August town hall protests and former
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's book signings: How much does race have to do with it?

A racial streak always has haunted populist politics. But in most of today's uprising by populist conservatives, race is only a marker, if a highly visible one, for other differences that have defined American politics since at least the 1960s.

If there was ever a time we should be talking candidly about race it is now. Yet, it is considered bad manners at best or even racist at worst to ask how much of today's protests of
President Barack Obama's policies might be motivated by race. People are touchy for at least three good reasons: One, race is so hard to quantify; two, the protests are more ideological than racial; and three, most Americans have little tolerance for outright bigotry anymore.

Polls offer limited help. Obama's approval ratings have fallen in the November polls by Gallup and Public Policy Polling while Palin's have risen. At this rate, they might even meet somewhere in the high 40s, a Drudge Report headline trumpets.

But what's race got to do with that? Much of Obama's fall results from recent bad news on the employment and Afghanistan fronts and much of Palin's rise results from her highly touted book tour. Still, since almost all of Obama's decline has come from white voters, while his numbers among blacks and Hispanics have stayed virtually the same, many still ask how much the difference results from the issue of race.

In some cases, the nuances as to what's racist or what isn't draw distinctions without much of a significant difference. Take, for example, the anti-Obama billboard that auto dealer Phil Wolf erected recently in Wheat Ridge, Colo. In big letters it says, "BIRTH CERTIFICATE" and "PROVE IT," a reference to the goofy movement that questions Obama's natural-born citizenship despite overwhelming evidence. It also features two cartoonish images of Obama wearing a turban and reads "President or Jihad?" and "Wake Up America! Remember Ft. Hood."

In interviews Wolf has said he's convinced Obama is a secret Muslim, a view that Pew Research Center polls have shown about 11 percent of the population shares. Would they feel that way about a white president with Obama's background? Frankly, it's not hard to imagine, considering the paranoid streak in American politics that has nurtured worse myths about previous presidents.

Maybe that's what my friend and MSNBC "Hardball" host Chris Matthews was thinking when he blurted out during coverage of the 1,500 people waiting for Palin at a Grand Rapids, Mich., bookstore that "they look like a white crowd to me" and "not that there's anything wrong with it, but it is pretty monochromatic up there" and "I think there is a tribal aspect to this thing, in other words, white versus other people."

Conservative bloggers took umbrage at that, for all the understandable reasons of racial ambiguity that I listed above. You're not a racist just because everybody around you happens to be of the same race as you. Yet, as political demographics take shape, there is a tribal aspect to politics. Birds of a feather flock together, social scientists tell us, and so do people.

Today's American tribes gather for reasons of shared values, interests and attitudes more than race or other shared ancestry. Yet, our ancestral differences play a big role in shaping our present-day attitudes. That's why we need to talk more openly and candidly about race, if we can only find the right language to do it.

Clarence Page is a member of the Tribune's editorial board and blogs at chicagotribune.com/pagespage

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colu ... 143.column



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PostPosted: 11/25/09 12:09 pm • # 2 
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Clarence is very good. The nugget in this piece, imo is this: ""I think there is a tribal aspect to this thing, in other words, white versus other people."

Putting this in terms of good guys and bad guys, there is a difference between us (the good guys) and them (the others): We 're trying to make the system accommodate all the tribes. They are trying to make their tribe dominant and to hell with everyone else.


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PostPosted: 11/25/09 3:17 pm • # 3 
We have to be able to talk about race to get past it all. Its amazing, the kids don't have as much an issue with it as the adults too. Maybe this is one lead we need to take from the kids.

Clarence is right on target. I continuously hear the cry of "if you are against obama's policies we get called racists". If its his policies one is against and expresses that intelligently, then it makes those crying racism look like the fools.

I received an email from someone asking my advice. They had been called racist for things they were accused of but didn't do. I told this person, there are people that will not take responsiblity for the failures and the things they have done to put them in the situation they are in. They will try to deflect the focus from them to someone else. They are not racists, but they are fools.

I think I am quite accepting of other's ideas and am willing to discuss, but constantly being called out when I do tell someone what they said was racist. And then I am an "angry black man". Well guess what? Now I am, but it will only be directed to those that deserve it. I guess I am to the point of fighting fire with fire.

reminds me of a part from the movie The Debaters "I can do two things to fight injustice. Either violence or civil disobedience. You should pray I choose the latter".


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Racism and bigotry share a couple of key elements ~ ignorance and fear ~ and that ignorance and fear is fueled by stereotypes ~ there are good and bad in every identifiable group ~ and words can be, and often are, very hurtful and life-altering ~ most of you know that I'm very involved with a charter elementary school in a very poor and very tough ward here in Chicago ~ the student demographics are 99% black and 1% Hispanic ~ over 90% of the students qualify for free meals and snacks, which is a poverty marker ~ even tho most of the students have experienced and witnessed more traumatic events in their short lifetimes than most of us ever will, they are blossoming in school ~ I've been working with 6 kidlets for over 2 years, and we have developed a very strong bond and trust ~ we talk about everything, and very often about racism ~ one 8yo girl wanted to know if "white" kids were always better just because they're "white" ~ many of our discussions break my heart ~ but I keep drilling into the kidlets that what really matters is personal character, and that personal character is something anyone can achieve ~ for me, personal character is the public discussion we need to have about racism and bigotry ~

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PostPosted: 11/26/09 5:20 am • # 5 
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sooz- can you give me an example of a GOOD racial stereotype?


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PostPosted: 11/26/09 5:48 am • # 6 
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macroscopic wrote:
sooz- can you give me an example of a GOOD racial stereotype?


No, mac, I cannot ~ for me, "stereotypes" are negative by design ~ but there are plenty of good role models around ~ I see both Michelle and Barack Obama as good role models ~ they both come from modest, at best, backgrounds ~ but understood and embraced the value of education ~ the Obamas' message, at least for me, is universal and inclusive, not limited to just the black community ~ work hard for what you want ~ there are plenty of others as well ~ but "some" dismiss any "character message" from a minority as being a "sell out" ~ for example, Colin Powell ~

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ok, misunderstood you. thanks for the clarification.


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I think the battle against racism has to be fought on two fronts. First, and most obvious, it should be fought against those who practice it. Second, it should be fought against those who are determined to find it in every nook and cranny and, if they can't find it, invent it. In my opinion the harm done to race relations by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who have created a self-serving racism industry, is no worse than that done by the KKK and Aryan Nations. It doesn't help improve things when, no matter how hard you try, somebody finds fault with what you are doing.

Over on the other board, for example, there was a discussion recently about how the preponderance of young people on death row in Florida are black. The immediate accusation was that it was the result of racism. Frankly, I doubt that is true. I think it has more to do with certain socio-economic conditions than race conditions although those socio-economic conditions are probably a holdover from the days when racism was rampant. It has left that particular socio-economic strata more highly populated by blacks than whites. I would bet that whites and others from the same background are sentenced just as frequently but, because there are fewer of them it is less visible. The solution to the "racism" complaint is to simply change the law so that an equal proportion of blacks and whites are sentenced to death. The problem with that, of course, is that it papers over the root causes that get kids to the point where they are sentenced to die. It seems to me the better way would be to put colour aside and say "look kids from this particular economic strata and neighbourhood culture tend to commit more murders. What can we do to fix that?"


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"look kids from this particular economic strata and neighbourhood culture tend to commit more murders. What can we do to fix that?"

Not a chance in hell to get elected in Florida with that mindset. We're still doing the "get tough on crime" dance and it seems to impress Florida voters again and again.


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PostPosted: 11/27/09 1:00 am • # 10 
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With that mindset, i'm surprised all of Florida isn't in jail.

Then Florida could be reserved for Canadians on vacation December through March.

Hey, that could work!

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