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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:18 am • # 26 
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You're assuming that all would follow party lines with the exception of 3 Repubs? Ever think some Dems could cross party lines in order to protect their own self-interests?


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:20 am • # 27 
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gop, the bet I'm suggesting is whether or not the Rs will threaten/try to filibuster ~

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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:24 am • # 28 
Some Republicans might threaten a filibuster - but that's just a part of the negotiating process.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:35 am • # 29 
oskar576 wrote:
You're assuming that all would follow party lines with the exception of 3 Repubs? Ever think some Dems could cross party lines in order to protect their own self-interests?


That's not what I said at all.  I said that there are a minimum of three Republicans who would back the disclosure laws - there may well, and probably would be more, but I just haven't run down the entire list of Republicans to see who else might do so.

Disclosure laws are a pretty cut-and-dried part of the process, Thomas' argument being a rare exception in today's world.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:37 am • # 30 
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gopqed wrote:
Some Republicans might threaten a filibuster - but that's just a part of the negotiating process.

Yes, so you continue to say ~ and I agree with that comment in theory ~ but take a look at the "... GOP Abuse of Filibuster" thread ~ Image 

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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:41 am • # 31 
Here's some more Republicans who voted for McCain-Feingold, who would most likely vote in favor of disclosure laws:

Richard Lugar
Lindsey Graham
Thad Cochran
John Thune

Scott Brown could well be a vote in favor of disclosure, as well.

Such a bill would pass easily.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 3:44 am • # 32 
Yes, so you continue to say ~ and I agree with that comment in theory ~ but take a look at the "... GOP Abuse of Filibuster" thread ~ Image 

There are procedural areas in which the 60-vote requirement is overused, but Democrats have only themselves to blame for that since they made procedural changes to allow that and then used it to their advantage starting in 1994.  Also, the number of cloture votes in the Senate isn't an accurate indication of the number of filibusters.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 5:09 am • # 33 
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That's not what I said at all.

And you only took part of what I said. Not surprised, either.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 5:22 am • # 34 
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Silly me ~ I forgot we were talking about the angelic, always-perfect, morally-superior, never-do-anything-even-remotely-purely-political Rs ~ Image ~ the problem I see, gop, is that while you are very knowledgeable about how things should work, you often dismiss how things do work ~ no one I know can change anything that took place in the past ~ so I'm much more concerned about what IS happening today ~ continuing the game of "you did it first" is lose/lose for the public ~

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PostPosted: 01/25/10 5:34 am • # 35 
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continuing the game of "you did it first" is lose/lose for the public ~


Yeah, but it's win/win for the corrupt gummint. And note that pretty much the only time government corruption is an issue is at election time when the accusations of corruption fly back and forth, whether they are true or not. Once elections are over it's back to corruption as usual.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 7:01 am • # 36 
Yep... Paul Martin's Liberals know that one all too well.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 7:10 am • # 37 
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Indeed, Sid. IMO, we missed out on a PM who knew what he was about when it came to economics.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 7:20 am • # 38 
Instead we got a Prime Minister (I still can bring myself to accept him as PM) who hasn't got a clue eventhough he's supposedly a "trained" economist.


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PostPosted: 01/25/10 7:22 am • # 39 
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Yes, well, Harper's never had an honest job in his entire life as far as I know. To my knowledge he's been a parasite from the git go.


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PostPosted: 01/26/10 9:56 am • # 40 
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We already have term limits- they are called elections.  The voters can end anyone's term whenever they choose to.  Incumbents usually get reelected- of course, because the longer they are in office the more power and prestige they have.  Most of the time, it would be foolish to vote out your long term senator and put in a freshman but on several occasions voters have done that.

Actually, I would like to see more politicians condemn the corporations that try to buy their loyalty through "swift boat" ads.  That, to me, is the sign of a strong and ( probably) moral elected offical. In fact, I'd like to see the party leadership do so as well.  I'm all for free speech, but in this instance free speech is not free$$$


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