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PostPosted: 12/04/09 11:17 am • # 1 
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Personally, I see Perry as an arrogant and egotistical idiot, and I fully expect his antics in the upcoming race to be extremely flamboyant [like the man himself] ~ of course, I live in Illinois and my opinion of the Texas governor doesn't mean diddley ~ but I have a couple of questions especially for Katy and Bob [our two resident Texans] ~ has Perry done a good/decent job in Texas? ~ is there a chance Kay Bailey Hutchison can beat him in the primary? ~ I know zero about Houston mayor Bill White ~ any chance he can beat either Perry or Hutchison and win the governorship? ~ Sooz



Can the incumbent governor tea party his way to reelection, or is he leading his party to disaster?


You might assume that Texas politics would still be a wild and woolly business, full of eccentric candidates who'd pull all kinds of crazy stunts to squeak by each other. Like how Lyndon Johnson lost one stolen election for the Senate and, having learned his lesson, probably stole the next one himself. Or like Gov. Lee "Pass the biscuits, Pappy" O'Daniel, the flour-peddling model and namesake for the
politician character in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" But modern Texas has settled into a situation of relatively quiet Republican dominance. Despite the best efforts of novelty-singer and 2006 independent gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman, there hasn't been a genuinely close general election for a Senate seat or the governorship since the mid-1990s.

But this year, Texas looks like it's getting back to its old self. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison is going through with a long-anticipated run for governor, which sets her up for a major run-in with incumbent Gov. Rick Perry in the Republican primary. Hutchison has amassed a lot of support from the GOP establishment, but Perry is burnishing his right-wing credentials
to a fine gleam. (In case you were wondering, he landed Sarah Palin's coveted endorsement back in February.)

This weekend's New York Times Magazine will run a piece by Robert Draper on the race. Frankly, Draper leaves Perry looking like something of a buffoon. This is the governor, after all, who started talking about Texas' right to secede from the union earlier this year. Perry suggested that Lino Graglia, a conservative legal scholar, would back up his view, so Draper called Graglia. Said the law professor, "No, I don't think there's any basis to that claim." In the article, Perry also expresses a fantasy about Sam Houston running for president in 1860 and beating Abraham Lincoln. This would, Perry claims, have prevented the outbreak of Civil War. No word, of course, on slavery.

This guy has actual bizarre policy ideas, though, not just Confederate reenactment fantasies. Perry claims that last year's economic panic was overblown, and the only necessary response to the financial meltdown was to "cut the spending, cut the taxes," instead of passing any emergency bailout. Judiciously, Draper comments, "Most economists might take issue with the governor's sentiment. Then again, economists are unlikely to decide the outcome of the Texas primary."

Perry's flirtation with the far right is the basic rationale for the candidacy of the comparatively moderate Hutchison. As she puts it, "I'm in it to save our party."

And that's just the issue. Perry, with his talk of states' 10th Amendment rights and his accusation that the president is "hell-bent on socialism," is as prime a specimen as you can find of tea party influence on the GOP. He's a politician who's trying to go as far as possible into right-wing fantasy world while still actually running a state.

Of course, there are some repercussions for acting like that. Assuming that he survives Hutchison's challenge, Perry will have to put in a real fight in the general election. His approval numbers are relatively weak, and he's dragging the GOP one way while Texas' demographics run the other. As Draper points out, Texas has recently become of the few so-called majority-minority -- that is, majority non-white -- states in the country.

On top of all that, on Friday the Democrats landed their ideal challenger. In Houston Mayor Bill White, who confirmed that he will enter the race, Democrats have easily their strongest gubernatorial candidate since Ann Richards. Hutchison might be the voice of relative sanity in the Republican Party, but it's hard not to wonder what a Perry-White contest would be like.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_ ... index.html



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PostPosted: 12/04/09 1:51 pm • # 2 
It should be fun. It's another chance for Perry to show his ass. Maybe this time people will kick it instead of reelecting it. He's going for far right support, has the blessing of Sarah Palin, etc. Kay Bailey Hutchison can get a lot of support by just pointing out the times lately that Perry has embarrassed us. It could have ended up with a lot of Democrats voting in the repub primary to kick Perry out of the running, but since Cheney supports Hutchison, there probably isn't a lot of difference. I don't know a lot about White but there are many people who do feel he is as strong a candidate as the dems have put up in a long long time. He will probably get a lot of big city support. The dems really haven't made an effort lately. Hopefully he will bring in the dollars and support to be real competition. This has the potential of being a real race, both in the primary and in the election.


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PostPosted: 12/04/09 2:36 pm • # 3 
Encourage all the Democrats you know in Texas to cross over in the primary and vote for Hutchison.


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PostPosted: 12/04/09 6:06 pm • # 4 
I really liked Mayor White when I was living in Houston. He was very well liked and was elected three times as Mayor and not by a small margin either. I wish him the very best. Before becoming Mayor he was a very successful businessman in Houston. I do not think Kay Bailey Hutchison can beat Perry at all. He has the Bible Thumpers on his side but I sure hope Mayor White will.


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PostPosted: 01/14/10 3:30 pm • # 5 

I just watched the Republican debate with 3 of the republican candidates for governor of Texas. There was a third candidate, medina, who made some good points but has no chance. Hutchison I think won the debate easily. Perry looked like an ass as always. I am biased so I doubt all would agree.

There were several times when Perry's figures were wrong and corrected by Hutchison. One was he said Texas only got back 70 cents for every dollar we pay to the fed government for transportation etc. Hutchison had worked hard and gotten that up to 90 cents.

Another thing was on unemployment. Perry kept bragging about making 100,000 new jobs last year. He did not seem to understand the point that the questioner and Hutchison made about but we lost 300,000 jobs last year. He just got all arrogant.

Abortion came up and it was interesting.

There will be another debate before the primary. I really think Hutchison has a good chance.



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PostPosted: 01/14/10 3:42 pm • # 6 
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I read somewhere last night that both Hutchison and Perry have HUGE warchests going into the primary ~ multi millions each ~ but SHE has more than he ~ Image ~ Katy, where in Texas is each from?

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PostPosted: 01/14/10 3:52 pm • # 7 
Kay Bailey Hutchison grew up in La Marque (near Galveston) and graduated from the University of Texas and UT Law School. She has achieved many firsts in her life including the first woman television reporter in Texas, first Republican woman elected to the Texas House of Representatives, first Republican elected as State Treasurer of Texas, and as the senior United States Senator from Texas she is the highest ranking Republican woman in Congress.

In 1993, Hutchison was elected to the United States Senate in a special election, making her the first woman elected to represent the state in the Senate. One year later, she was elected to a full six-year term, and was re-elected in 2000 and 2006.

Rick Perry, a fifth-generation Texan, grew up the son of tenant farmers in the West Texas town of Paint Creek. The younger of Ray and Amelia Perry's two children, he was active in scouting and earned distinction as an Eagle Scout. Perry was one of the first in his family to go to college, earning a degree in Animal Science at Texas A&M, where he was also a member of the Corps of Cadets and a Yell Leader.

Between 1972 and 1977, Perry served in the U.S. Air Force flying C-130 tactical airlift aircraft in the Europe and the Middle East. He is a lifetime member of American Legion Post #75. His political career started in 1985 when he was elected to the Texas House of Representatives where he served four terms. He was first elected to statewide office in 1990, and served as Texas Commissioner of Agriculture for two terms.

Perry was elected Lieutenant Governor in 1998. He was sworn in as Texas' 47th Governor in December 2000 when Governor George W. Bush resigned before his inauguration as President of the United States. Perry was elected to a four-year term in 2002, and re-elected in 2006

Editing to include the reference for the info http://www.texasdebates.org/candidates.php


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PostPosted: 01/14/10 4:18 pm • # 8 
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Thanks, Katy ~

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PostPosted: 01/14/10 5:47 pm • # 9 
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Well sheeeit! Perry gonna win this one. Didn't yuh see he flew them thar C 130's in the Airforce of these United States of Amurica. Whyuh, that makes him a lot more Amurican and a whole passle more qualyfied to be guvner. That split-tail Hiutchinson ain't even a vet. Fact is she's been con-sortin with all them commie socialist nazis up thar in Warshington all these years. We don't need none of them tax grubbing welfare coddlers in this great state. No siree!


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PostPosted: 01/14/10 6:01 pm • # 10 
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Sorry, Katy, that's just my take on Texas - in fact, American - politics with its misplaced priorities, name calling, paranoia and xenophobia.


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And a pretty accurate description of how the Bush version of the US is perceived, Jim.


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PostPosted: 01/15/10 10:14 am • # 13 
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jimwilliam wrote:
Sorry, Katy, that's just my take on Texas - in fact, American - politics with its misplaced priorities, name calling, paranoia and xenophobia.
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oskar wrote:
And a pretty accurate description of how the Bush version of the US is perceived, Jim.

I agree with both comments after we widen the reference from "Texas" to "American politics" generally ~ the name calling is stupid, no matter who does it ~ the USA is certainly not alone in name-calling, but I admit we have raised the bar on that ~ but the paranoia and xenophobia here is, IMO, at epic levels ~ and is fueled by the fear tactics used by the prior administration and carried forward by the "conservative" talking heads ~ I see those tactics as both dangerous and very damaging to the American psyche as a whole ~ and, by extension, to our core values and beliefs ~ and I'm finding it depressing as hell that "some" are fighting furiously to maintain the former status quo ~

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