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PostPosted: 01/11/10 4:49 am • # 1 
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This has gotten huge media coverage all weekend ~ I am no fan of Harry Reid and will not be sorry when he does step down as Leader and/or retires from the Senate [which given the polls may be sooner rather than later and not Reid's own choice] ~ but I see this faux fury and faux hypersensitivity as another R diversion ~ Reid's comments were stupid, but not racist ~ and Reid has a very strong history in promoting and supporting civil and minority rights ~ it also is not even remotely UNusual for a politician to make a stupid remark ~ Sooz

Democrats dismiss Republican call for Reid to step down

January 11, 2010 9:53 a.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- The Congressional Black Caucus said Sunday that it had accepted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's apology for a remark he made about Barack Obama during the 2008 campaign and dismissed calls for the Nevada Democrat to step down.

Earlier in the day, the chairman of the Republican Party and a leading GOP senator had called on Reid to give up his post.

"Over the years, I have had an opportunity to work with Majority Leader Reid," Rep. Barbara Lee, chairwoman of the caucus, said in a statement.

"Senator Reid's record provides a stark contrast to actions of Republicans to block legislation that would benefit poor and minority communities."

Lee added that she looked forward to Reid serving as majority leader.

"There are too many issues like the economy, job creation and energy for these regrettable comments to distract us from the work that must be done on behalf of the American people," she said.

Colleagues on the other side of the aisle were not as forgiving.

The remarks were "embarrassing and racially insensitive," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, head of the GOP's Senate campaign arm, said in a statement to CNN.

Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele, on NBC's "Meet the Press," said, "Racism and racist conversations have no place today in America."

Steele was also on the defensive for a remark he made last week that members of both parties have called a racial slur.

Reid's office made clear he has no plans to step down.

"Senator Reid will stay in his position as majority leader and will run for re-election," his spokesman said.

"As the leader in the fight to pass the Voting Rights Act and legislation banning hate crimes, Senator Reid has a long record of addressing issues that are important to the African-American community. His Republican critics who are looking to politicize the issue can't say the same."

The controversy surrounds remarks published in the book "Game Change," which goes on sale Monday.

It quotes Reid as saying privately in 2008 that Obama could succeed as a black candidate partly because of his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

The authors write that "Reid was convinced, in fact, that Obama's race would help him more than hurt him in a bid for the Democratic nomination."

In a statement to CNN, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

"I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans, for my improper comments. I was a proud and enthusiastic supporter of Barack Obama during the campaign and have worked as hard as I can to advance President Obama's legislative agenda," Reid added.

In his defense, he pointed to his efforts to integrate the Las Vegas Strip work force and the gaming industry, among other legislation favored by African-American voters.

After Reid called Obama on Saturday afternoon to apologize, the president said, "As far as I am concerned, the book is closed."

"I accepted Harry's apology without question, because I've known him for years. I've seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues of social justice and I know what's in his heart," the president said.

An aide to the senator told CNN that Reid also apologized to several prominent African-American political figures, including House Democrats Lee of California and Jim Clyburn of South Carolina; the Rev. Al Sharpton; CNN political contributor and Democratic strategist Donna Brazile; NAACP Chairman Julian Bond; and the head of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, Wade Henderson.

Steele, the GOP's first African-American chairman, was asked by NBC whether he thinks the situation is similar to one involving former Sen. Trent Lott.

Lott lost his post as Senate majority leader in 2002 after saying the nation would have been better off if one-time segregationist candidate Strom Thurmond had been elected president.

"Oh, yeah. There is a big double standard here," Steele said. "When Democrats get caught saying racist things, you know, an apology is enough."

Cornyn, in his statement, also accused Democrats of following a double standard, and noted that they had pushed Lott to step down.

He added that Reid "has yet to clarify" his remarks. "As we await his explanation, Senator Reid should do the right thing, follow the example that he himself set in 2002, and step down as majority leader."

Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia, chairman of the Democratic Party, shot back against those arguments.

"Anybody looking at Trent Lott's statements, praising somebody who had been a pro-segregation candidate for president, will see that there is no comparison between those comments and those of Senator Reid's," he told NBC.

Kaine said "the case is closed" after Reid's round of apologies. The comments "were in the context of praising the senator and acknowledging that the senator could be a great president, but they were still insensitive," Kaine said.

Steele, meanwhile, was asked about his remark in a Fox News interview last week that the GOP platform "is one of the best political documents that's been written in the last 25 years, 'honest Injun' on that."

"Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace noted that lawmakers from both parties have called that a racial slur.

"Well, if it is, I apologize for it. It's not an intent to be a racial slur. I wasn't intending to say a racial slur at all," Steele said.

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PostPosted: 01/11/10 5:51 am • # 2 
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To me, there is a VERY SIGNIFICANT difference between Lott's and Reid's comments ~ and mindsets ~ and intents ~ Sooz


Yesterday, Republicans moved swiftly to make political hay of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-NV) "racially-tinged" reference to Barack Obama as "light-skinned" with "no Negro dialect." In an effort to stir the faux controversy, top conservatives claimed a "double standard" exists because former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) was forced from office for making segregationist comments, while Reid remains.

"If [Lott] should resign, then Harry Reid should," Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said. Karl Rove piled on: "If you didn't accept Lott's apology, to be consistent, wouldn't have to reject Reid's, as well?" RNC Chairman Michael Steele - who resisted calling for Lott's ouster in 2002 - said "it is" right for Reid to step down, citing the Lott precedent.

Recall, Lott argued in 2002 that "we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years" had segregationist Strom Thurmond been elected President. Fox News contributor Juan Williams noted this morning, "I don't think Barack Obama would be in the White House if we had a segregationist country. That's a major, major difference."

Republicans are reportedly trying to further the story by using Lott's comments to "press reporters to ask Reid what he really meant." Fox News is assisting that effort by compiling a graphic of all the Democratic Senators who criticized Lott. After displaying the graphic, Fox host Martha MacCallum pressed contributor Bob Beckel on whether there is a double standard, arguing that then-Sen. Obama said "Republicans need to rid themselves of Trent Lott." Beckel responded by observing the key distinction in the two statements:

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BECKEL: Let me just make this point: what Trent Lott said was a racist statement. When you said in the opening, Martha, that this was a comparable racial statement, it is not comparable at all! What Lott said was that he thought we should support Strom Thurmond when he was a segregationist running for President. Harry Reid used the word in a positive sense. It was a bad choice of words, but I mean the two of those make no connection between themselves.

MacCallum quickly retreated, acknowledging "I hear what you're saying…when you look at the context of the statements, they are different." Watch it:

"It brings tears to my eyes to listen to Republicans wake up and defend Barack Obama because he's been attacked by Harry Reid," Fox's Beckel observed. "Give me a break! … You guys can't make anything that you don't turn into politics against Barack Obama and the Democrats."

Update: TPM's Josh Marshall observes that the Lott comparison is "laughable," recalling that Lott's segregationist remark "suggested that he knew the implications exactly and believed them deeply."

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On MSNBC this morning, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) claimed that "Trent Lott said something that was far more innocuous than the racially tinged comments that Sen. Reid made."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/11/lot ... nist-reid/


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 6:15 am • # 3 
Reid's statement is akin to Joe's Biden "he's clean". He is light skinned and he doesn't speak in eubonics. This is fairly innocous. It would be equivalent to saying someone is olive skinned Italian with a Brooklyn accent.

This comment is racial at best. Not racist.


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 6:35 am • # 4 
I hope the Democrats keep Harry Reid as a bumbling Majority Leader, but it really would be in their best interests to let this be the straw that broke the camel's back and replace him with someone who can be a competent Majority Leader. A majority vote of their caucus is all it would take, and they could have Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein or someone of that stature running the show effectively. Even Dick Durbin would be an improvement in that area.


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 6:52 am • # 5 
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Can't argue with your rationale, gop ~ I asked you in the "ThinkFast" thread what it takes to replace/appoint a majority or minority leader ~ is it tenure? ~ ftr, I know and like Dick Durbin ~ he's a very decent and honest guy ~

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PostPosted: 01/11/10 7:01 am • # 6 
I just answered over in the other thread - it's basically a mini-election within each caucus. Tenure is of some concern, but it's not a real determining factor. It's usually someone who has done well in building a coalition within the caucus, and there's ususally almost a career path through the leadership positions. But that's not really required either.

I'm not really sure how Reid managed to end up there - he's probably better at making friends than being a true leader.


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 7:19 am • # 7 
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Thanks, gop ~ you are a fount of knowledge ~

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PostPosted: 01/11/10 7:23 am • # 8 
The biggest problem, as my wife could tell you, is that most of that knowledge is almost useless. Image


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LOL ~ my former boss and I agree that the [frequently bizarre] things I knew and remembered was a big factor in my having only one job my entire career ~ Image

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PostPosted: 01/11/10 7:28 am • # 10 
I heard a bit about this, from the same book. Sometimes, it's better to not get the behind-the-scenes stories about campaigns because it can tarnish your image of people for whom you admire or respect.



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PostPosted: 01/11/10 8:04 am • # 11 
sooz08 wrote:
LOL ~ my former boss and I agree that the [frequently bizarre] things I knew and remembered was a big factor in my having only one job my entire career ~ Image

Sooz

I've never been able to understand why the information that seems most easily recalled is trivia. I ran into one of my neighbors at the store a couple of days ago, and couldn't remember who she was, but I can tell you Willie Mays' lifetime batting average.


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 8:31 am • # 12 
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The klystron in the oscillator cavity of a 24-channel mobile microwave transmitter (last used in NATO in 1968) is a Siemens 2C39A.



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PostPosted: 01/11/10 8:49 am • # 13 
But that's completely useful information!


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 11:31 am • # 14 
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Not if you're trying to fix the dang thingamajiggie.


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PostPosted: 01/11/10 11:32 am • # 15 
It's not useful information if you're trying to fix it?


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i am going to swim upstream here and say that Reid wins re-election. i don't think he is nearly so vulnerable as many others do. although the economy will have a lot to say about it.


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The biggest problem, as my wife could tell you, is that most of that knowledge is almost useless. Image

Useless information is the funnest kind. Who cares what your neighbour's name is? She probably remembers it and knowing it won't impress anybody at a party. Willy Mays batting average? Well, on the impressive scale that's a whole different kettle of fish. Of course, having that useless knowledge does put a lot of pressure on you when you're always the first chosen for a Tivial Pursuit Team.

Reid's comment was probably a realistic assessment of race relations in American politics, but some things you just keep to yourself. Further, and despite Democrat attempts to paper it over, it was mildly racist.


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PostPosted: 01/12/10 3:38 am • # 18 
macroscopic wrote:
i am going to swim upstream here and say that Reid wins re-election. i don't think he is nearly so vulnerable as many others do. although the economy will have a lot to say about it.


I think you're probably going to be right, macro, although you may end up being wrong if Reid continues to display a tin ear and incompetence in his leadership role. That's why I hope he remains Majority Leader. Image


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