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PostPosted: 11/30/10 6:39 am • # 1 
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The only at-least-partially civil comment I can make is ... WTF is wrong with these people? ~ Image


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 7:09 am • # 2 
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So is he talking local elections or  state/national? If he's talking about state/national/federal elections, I think all people have a "vested interest" in their state and in the "community" of the United States of America.

If he's talking about local elections, it stinks of racism, imo. Marginalize the minorities who probably own the least % of homes. You know, the Mexicans and such. Also marginalize the poor and those who lost their homes/jobs in this economy. They don't matter anyway, right? Or should I say: They don't matter to the right?

Do the Tea Party worshipers really listen to what their representatives say? Do they understand what is said? What an idiot!


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 7:11 am • # 3 
Hmmm... and they accuse "liberals" of being elitist.

There's no level so low to which these idiots won't stoop.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 7:59 am • # 4 
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Go ahead, take away my voting rights. In return I don't come under your jurisdiction unless you want to bring back slavery/indenture or end democracy. Which is it?


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 8:44 am • # 5 
"you want to bring back slavery/indenture or end democracy. Which is it? "

All of the above.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 9:23 am • # 6 
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Sidartha wrote:
"you want to bring back slavery/indenture or end democracy. Which is it? "

All of the above.
Ok. C'mon over. You can sleep in the basement and feed off our table scraps... as long as you put in 18 hour days.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 9:47 am • # 7 
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He didn't mention it was MALE homeowners, lol. Gotta keep his women followers happy. I did find this chart, which is very interesting. After giving former slaves the right to vote, many states instituted a "poll tax" you had to pay to vote. This ensured that the very poor, former slaves could not vote anyway. Then the literacy test was added to further marginalize blacks. Both of those lost white voters so, of course, they were "grandfathered" in.   When I have the time, I would like to find out just which party voted for these rules and the religious prerequisite!? Not a great record for the "Land of opportunity" and Lady Liberty "give me your tired........". America has, indeed, been bigoted for her entire existence. At least as far as her "democracy" is concerned. One person, one vote. Not hardly.

U.S. Voting Rights

When the Constitution was written, only white male property owners (about 10 to 16 percent of the nation's population) had the vote. Over the past two centuries, though, the term "government by the people" has become a reality. During the early 1800s, states gradually dropped property requirements for voting. Later, groups that had been excluded previously gained the right to vote. Other reforms made the process fairer and easier.

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1790 Only white male adult property-owners have the right to vote.
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1810 Last religious prerequisite for voting is eliminated.
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1850 Property ownership and tax requirements eliminated by 1850. Almost all adult white males could vote.
1855 Connecticut adopts the nation's first [url=/ipd/A0518709.html]literacy test[/url] for voting. Massachusetts follows suit in 1857. The tests were implemented to discriminate against Irish-Catholic immigrants.
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1870 The [url=/ipd/A0438916.html]15th Amendment[/url] is passed. It gives former slaves the right to vote and protects the voting rights of adult male citizens of any race.
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1889 Florida adopts a [url=/ce6/history/A0839551.html]poll tax[/url]. Ten other southern states will implement poll taxes.
1890 Mississippi adopts a literacy test to keep African Americans from voting. Numerous other states—not just in the south—also establish literacy tests. However, the tests also exclude many whites from voting. To get around this, states add [url=/ipd/A0461771.html]grandfather clauses[/url] that allow those who could vote before 1870, or their descendants, to vote regardless of literacy or tax qualifications.
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1913 The [url=/ipd/A0647938.html]17th Amendment[/url] calls for members of the [url=/ce6/history/A0857527.html]U.S. Senate[/url] to be elected directly by the people instead of State Legislatures.
1915 Oklahoma was the last state to append a grandfather clause to its literacy requirement (1910). In Guinn v. United States the [url=/ce6/history/A0847276.html]Supreme Court[/url] rules that the clause is in conflict with the 15th Amendment, thereby outlawing literacy tests for federal elections.
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1920 The 19th Amendment guarantees [url=/ce6/history/A0861989.html]women's suffrage[/url].
1924 Indian Citizenship Act grants all [url=/spot/aihm1.html]Native Americans[/url] the rights of citizenship, including the right to vote in federal elections.
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1944 The Supreme Court outlaws "white primaries" in Smith v. Allwright (Texas). In Texas, and other states, [url=/ce6/history/A0840125.html]primaries[/url] were conducted by private associations, which, by definion, could exclude whomever they chose. The Court declares the nomination process to be a public process bound by the terms of 15th Amendment.
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1957 The first law to implement the 15th amendment, the Civil Rights Act, is passed. The Act set up the Civil Rights Commission—among its duties is to investigate voter discrimination.
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1960 In Gomillion v. Lightfoot (Alabama) the Court outlaws "[url=/ce6/history/A0820654.html]gerrymandering[/url]."
1961 The 23rd Amendment allows voters of the [url=/ce6/us/A0815651.html]District of Columbia[/url] to participate in presidential elections.
1964 The 24th Amendment bans the poll tax as a requirement for voting in federal elections.
1965 [url=/spot/mlkbiospot.html]Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.[/url], mounts a [url=/spot/civilrightstimeline1.html#1964]voter registration drive[/url] in Selma, Alabama, to draw national attention to African-American voting rights.
1965 The Voting Rights Act protects the rights of minority voters and eliminates voting barriers such as the literacy test. The Act is expanded and renewed in 1970, 1975, and 1982.
1966 The Supreme Court, in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, eliminates the poll tax as a qualification for voting in any election. A poll tax was still in use in Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, and Virginia.
1966 The Court upholds the Voting Rights Act in South Carolina v. Katzenbach.
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1970 Literacy requirements are banned for five years by the 1970 renewal of the Voting Rights Act. At the time, eighteen states still have a literacy requirement in place. In Oregon v. Mitchell, the Court upholds the ban on literacy tests, which is made permanent in 1975. [url=/ce6/people/A0807740.html]Judge Hugo Black[/url], writing the court's opinion, cited the "long history of the discriminatory use of literacy tests to disenfranchise voters on account of their race" as the reason for their decision.
1971 The 26th amendment sets the minimum voting age at 18.
1972 In Dunn v. Blumstein, the Supreme Court declares that lengthy [url=/ipa/A0781452.html]residence requirements[/url] for voting in state and local elections is unconstitutional and suggests that 30 days is an ample period.
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1995 The Federal "[url=/ipd/A0544673.html]Motor Voter Law[/url]" takes effect, making it easier to register to vote.
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2003 Federal Voting Standards and Procedures Act requires states to streamline registration, voting, and other election procedures.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 10:41 am • # 8 
"He didn't mention it was MALE homeowners, lol."

That's next... they just don't want to bite off more than they can chew right now.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 11:00 am • # 9 
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And this business of outlawing literacy tests in the south?  Surely people who can read well have a greater stake in their communities, right? And why shouldn't there be a poll tax?  After all, if you're going to be making decisions at the ballot box you ought to have at least a little bit of skin in the game. You don't get to see the movie if you don't buy the ticket, right?

I don't think this dude and all the other tea braggers have actually read about changes in suffrage law,and they do not get the concept of universal suffrage.  If it were explained to them, they would not agree with it. This has to be the most historically illiterate political movement in our national history.


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This has to be the most historically illiterate political movement in our national history.

Oh, well then, they shouldn't have the right to vote being illiterate'n'all.


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I found this about the religion pre-requisite:

In addition, until 1810, there were numerous religious prerequisites for voting. Depending on the community, certain religious factions could not participate in elections. In 1810, legislative action finally eliminated religious limitations, opening up the voting booths to a number of new adult males. 

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I can just see it now. Only those who are Christians (and sub-groups)or Jewish (can't lose those!) are allowed to vote. One must have a witnessed, certified letter from their minister/priest/rabbi. Then again, to hell with the Jewish votes. After all, the US is a Christian nation, right?Image


I wouldn't put anything past these fundie, conservative, Tea Party types.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 3:09 pm • # 12 
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it never gets dull at the Tea Party. ;]


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 3:47 pm • # 13 
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Let's all move to Canada!


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 5:39 pm • # 14 
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laffinalltheway wrote:
Let's all move to Canada!

i have been thinking about it for years.


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PostPosted: 11/30/10 6:54 pm • # 15 
Well son... quit thinkin' about it an' git off yer ass!


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PostPosted: 12/01/10 4:17 am • # 16 
I actually think the teabaggers and the Republicans have all lost what little minds they had.  Sometimes I think the only reason some people are alive is because it's against the law to shoot them.


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PostPosted: 12/01/10 4:21 am • # 17 
How can they swear to uphold the constitution when they all seem to want to repeal it?


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Sidartha wrote:
Well son... quit thinkin' about it an' git off yer ass!

i keep thinking my love of country will come in useful for putting these assholes in their place.  but so far, so "not good".


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PostPosted: 12/01/10 4:05 pm • # 19 
Yeah but... if you move here you can work on putting OUR assholes in their place too.


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Sidartha wrote:
Yeah but... if you move here you can work on putting OUR assholes in their place too.

ah yes, the universal asshole factor.  i keep forgetting that.


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PostPosted: 12/02/10 3:18 am • # 21 
Everyone has one.... everyone has the right to be one...


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