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PostPosted: 12/05/10 5:17 am • # 1 
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I'm not sure exactly what T.J. Gilmartin was looking for from John McCain, but I'm not surprised at McCain's reaction ~ as I've posted repeatedly, something has happened to McCain ~ something very negative that is 'allowing' him to show his disrespect and anger and hate publicly ~ he's had what ... 10 or 12 flip-flops on repealing DADT alone ~ maybe the more reasonable and compassionate man I once respected was the fraud and what we are seeing today is the real John McCain ~ sad, really ~ Sooz

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PostPosted: 12/05/10 7:26 am • # 2 
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Could be mild dementia or early Alzheimer's. Both present the same symptoms. People can become more judgmental or even find it hard to hide their true nature or feelings, which becomes a huge problem for a politician. Also, with either problem, a person will just blurt things out and not even know why they said them or not even remember saying them. His seeming anger is another sign. I've seen it many times. He's having some sort of mental/brain issue, I'll bet ya. 


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 9:16 am • # 3 

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne



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PostPosted: 12/05/10 9:32 am • # 4 
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It seems McCain started changing in 2000 when the Bush campaign - Karl Rove et al - destroyed him.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 9:39 am • # 5 
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He's a republican. He is not going to run for anything anymore.
There's no need anymore to hide the real McCoy and play to potential constituents.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 11:32 am • # 6 
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kathyk1024 wrote:

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne


it didn't seem to bother him much before 2000.  something has changed with him, and it is not for the better.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 11:35 am • # 7 
oskar576 wrote:
It seems McCain started changing in 2000 when the Bush campaign - Karl Rove et al - destroyed him.
i agree...when he "turned" and let Bush & Co. corrupt him, I think it was the beginning of the end....


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 12:27 pm • # 8 
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kathyk1024 wrote:

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne


it didn't seem to bother him much before 2000.  something has changed with him, and it is not for the better.


Mental illnesses can lie beneath the surface and people can coast along and then something can trigger a crisis.  It could have been the 2000 Election cycle, it could have been again 2008 or he could just have been a weasel all along. 


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 1:14 pm • # 9 
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kathyk1024 wrote:
macroscopic wrote:
kathyk1024 wrote:

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne


it didn't seem to bother him much before 2000.  something has changed with him, and it is not for the better.


Mental illnesses can lie beneath the surface and people can coast along and then something can trigger a crisis.  It could have been the 2000 Election cycle, it could have been again 2008 or he could just have been a weasel all along. 

could have been 911 too.  he has really not been the same since then.  ie- he has voted repeatedly to allow torture.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 1:41 pm • # 10 
I think he's just a curmudgeonly old man who should have retired after his first stab at the presidency.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 1:49 pm • # 11 
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macroscopic wrote:
kathyk1024 wrote:
macroscopic wrote:
kathyk1024 wrote:

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne


it didn't seem to bother him much before 2000.  something has changed with him, and it is not for the better.


Mental illnesses can lie beneath the surface and people can coast along and then something can trigger a crisis.  It could have been the 2000 Election cycle, it could have been again 2008 or he could just have been a weasel all along. 

could have been 911 too.  he has really not been the same since then.  ie- he has voted repeatedly to allow torture.


Mac, I'm not being snarly here and I could be wrong, but ... I sure don't remember too many votes about torture before 09/11 ~

Sooz


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 1:52 pm • # 12 
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sooz08 wrote:
macroscopic wrote:
kathyk1024 wrote:
macroscopic wrote:
kathyk1024 wrote:

Or maybe a manifestation of his PTSD that he cannot contain post election loss. 

I agree with you roseanne


it didn't seem to bother him much before 2000.  something has changed with him, and it is not for the better.


Mental illnesses can lie beneath the surface and people can coast along and then something can trigger a crisis.  It could have been the 2000 Election cycle, it could have been again 2008 or he could just have been a weasel all along. 

could have been 911 too.  he has really not been the same since then.  ie- he has voted repeatedly to allow torture.


Mac, I'm not being snarly here and I could be wrong, but ... I sure don't remember too many votes about torture before 09/11 ~

Sooz

well, there was the TAT in the 90's.  he voted for that.  and he has given plenty of lip service during that period and before to the idea of ending torture as an interrogation tactic.

to put it succinctly, every public statement he made prior to 911 (and many since then, actually) have indicated his opposition to torture.  now, he seems to be one of it's proponents.


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PostPosted: 12/05/10 7:51 pm • # 13 
I don't look for him to retire.  I am sure his wife Cindy will buy his time in office as long as she can. I doubt even she wants him hanging around the house all the time. 


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 2:45 am • # 14 
You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 2:58 am • # 15 
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gopqed wrote:
You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.
Whatever the reason is, he's still a POS.
Posters are actually being quite generous in providing a legitimate possibility for his current behaviour. Personally, I think he's simply become a venal, vindictive old poop.

  


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 5:55 am • # 16 
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gopqed wrote:
You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.

fine.  you explain why he went from voting with Bush 30% of the time to 90% of the time in (8) years.
YOU explain why he voted for enhanced interrogation techniques as part of MCA 2006.
YOU explain why he voted against HIS OWN campaign reform bill, which he spent about 1/4 of his career carefully crafting.
and finally, you explain this incredible reversal on DADT.

i never said he was crazy, gop.  i said there is something wrong with him.  i have no idea what it is.  YOU explain it.


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 7:19 am • # 17 
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You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.
It's what I do for a living.

Kind of like you cracking me up with armchair defenses of the indefensible being an offshoot of what you do for a living.

  


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 7:24 am • # 18 
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kathyk1024 wrote:
gopqed wrote:
You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.
It's what I do for a living.

Kind of like you cracking me up with armchair defenses of the indefensible being an offshoot of what you do for a living.

  

LOL!

whew.

stinging, and brilliant reply, kat.  take a bow.

no offense, gop.  that was pretty good tho.  you have to admit!  HAHAHAHA


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 7:27 am • # 19 
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gopqed wrote:
You guys crack me up with your armchair diagnoses of mental illness and Alzheimers based on your dislike of John McCain.

Funny that you think a compassionate explanation is based on dislike. I've been around enough seniors to recognize some sort of cognative disorder when their personalities change dramatically. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.  

Would it make you happier if I said he's just a grumpy dumb fuck who doesn't deserve an ounce of consideration?Image Sheesh. Try to be nice and patisan hacks get their knickers in a twist.  


  


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 12:06 pm • # 20 
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Does McCain have a side to the opening post?  I didn't see anything in it giving his version of events.  When I see a headline referencing "John McWeasel" a little alarm bell goes off in my mind suggesting the story following might be a bit biassed.


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PostPosted: 12/06/10 12:10 pm • # 21 
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Can't be biased. Gopqed says the media aren't part of the political process in the US.


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