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PostPosted: 01/08/11 11:12 am • # 26 
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With the current caching problem on our yuku server, it's difficult to edit posts ~ here is another 'update' to my #21 post in case anyone wants to check out the YouTube videos:

* Seventh Update: I'm afraid I have to take off for a while, but I'd also note that TPM posted a collection of videos from YouTube that are believed to have been uploaded by the shooter. Not surprisingly, Loughner appears to be a deeply sick person, including accusing the government of, among other things, "mind control."

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PostPosted: 01/08/11 1:41 pm • # 27 
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Very very very disturbed ~ and disturbing ~ and CREEPY ~ Image ~ Sooz

A sampling of the Arizona shooting suspect's social-media postings

By the CNN Wire Staff
January 8, 2011 7:10 p.m. EST

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    [*]"I think the CIA watches my-space" [*]"Dear friends,......Please don't be mad at me" [*]"If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem" [*]"No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver!"[/list]

(CNN) -- Jared Lee Loughner, the suspect in Saturday's shooting at a Democratic congresswoman's meeting with her constituents in Arizona, had a limited life on social-media sites, including YouTube and MySpace. Here's a sampling of some of the messages that CNN found on Loughner's pages:

MySpace

December 26, 2010:

I'm not going to change the mistakes, you don't know - funny! (I think the CIA watches my-space)

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December 30, 2010:

Literate Letter: Dear Reader, Brainwash.

.....Dear Reader,..... I'm searching. Today! With every concern, my shot is now ready for aim. The hunt, a mighty thought of mine

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December 30, 2010:

I now understand a certain word -- Cult!

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December 30, 2010:

I know how to graduate without a cult ceremony: Please! Don't think of murdering.

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January 8, 2010 (posted at about 5 a.m. MT):

Good-bye friends.

Dear friends,.....Please don't be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven't talked to one person who is literate.

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YouTube

December 15, 2010:

If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

I define terrorist.

Thus a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

You call me a terrorist.

Thus the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

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December 15, 2010:

The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution.

You don't have to accept the federalist laws.

Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws.

You're literate, listener?

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December 15, 2010:

In conclusion, reading the second United States constitution I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.

No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver!

No! I wont trust in God!

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December 15, 2010:

The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate - hilarious. I don't control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.

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November 30, 2010:

Fraud If I'm not receiving the purchase from a payment then I'm a victim of fraud. I'm not receiving the purchase from a payment. Therefore, I'm a victim of fraud. All purchases for an educational course in The United States as of now are unconstitutional in the United States of America because of Section 10 in the United States of America's Constitution. A student paying for a Pima Community College course is a purchase for an educational course in the United States as of now. Therefore, a student paying for a Pima Community College course is unconstitutional in the United States of America because of Section 10 in the United States of America's Constitution.

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Hello, and welcome my classified leak of information that's of the United States Military to the student body and you. Firstly, I want you to understand this from the start. Did you know grammar is double blind, listener? Secondly, if you want to understand the start of revelatory thoughts then listen to this video. I'll look at you (expletive) Anarchists who have a problem with them illegal illiterate pigs. :-D If you're a citizen in the United States as of now, then your constitution is the United States. You're a citizen in the United States as of now. Thus, your constitution is the United States. Laugh. I'll let you in on their little cruel joke that's genocidal. They're argument is appeal to force on their jurisdiction with lack of proof of evidence. Each subject is in question for the location!

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PostPosted: 01/08/11 1:55 pm • # 28 
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Perhaps if anyone bothered to recognize the problems this young man suffered, the devastation he was allowed to create might have been avoided


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PostPosted: 01/08/11 3:03 pm • # 29 
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POLITICO 'breaking news' email just received ~ Sooz

"POLITICO Breaking News

Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was the intended target of a gunman who killed six people and wounded 13 outside a Safeway in Tucson, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said in a press conference. Dupnik said that law enforcement is investigating a second suspect who may have been involved, and of whom they have a picture."


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OK, now we're looking for a 50 yr old white male accomplice
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PostPosted: 01/09/11 2:59 am • # 31 
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A couple of things about the shooting

First is that the little nine year old girl was born on September ll,, and was one of the babies included in the book of children born on that terrible day, and they were the hope for the future.

They have now shown the picture of the man who is the person of interest. I wonder will he end up being involved or not?


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 3:46 am • # 32 
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Here's more info ~ I read a long article in MSN yesterday [while it was impossible to post] that had a boatload of info ~ I neglected to save the link, but I'll look for that article again ~ I was VERY impressed with the 'plain talk' of the sheriff, who faced reality head-on, calling AZ the new capital of hatred and unrest ~ Sooz

POSSIBLE ACCOMPLICE SOUGHT IN ARIZONA.... Jared Lee Loughner, the 22-year-old suspect in yesterday's massacre in Tucson, was tackled by people on the scene and quickly taken into custody. Late yesterday, however, we learned that law enforcement officials are looking for another man who may have been involved with the shootings.

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[Loughner's] motivation was not immediately known, but Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik described him as mentally unstable and possibly acting with an accomplice. He said in addition to the six deaths, 13 people were wounded in the melee. Dupnik said the rampage ended only after two people tackled the gunman.

Investigators said they were looking for an accomplice, believed to be in his 50s, who may have assisted in the attack.

Dupnik said authorities have pictures indicating the existence of a second person aiding in the attack.

In the meantime, the Pima County Sheriff's office released the names of the six people killed in the attack. In alphabetical order: Christina-Taylor Green, just 9 years old; Dorthy Murray, 76; U.S. District Court Judge John Roll, 63; Phyllis Schneck, 79; the Rev. Dorwin Stoddard, 76; and Gabriel Zimmerman, the 30-year-old director of community outreach for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D).

Giffords was shot in the head, but by last night, reports indicated that she'd regained consciousness and recognized her husband. There were 12 others injured.

According to an account from a Giffords spokesperson, the gunman fired first at the congresswoman, before shooting indiscriminately at others nearby.

If an accomplice was involved, it would seem to change the nature of the incident, away from just a lone nut with a handgun, but we'll have to wait for additional information.

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM January 9, 2011

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archiv ... 027451.php


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 3:50 am • # 33 
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WOW ~ just ... WOW! ~ Sooz

THE INTERN WHO MAY HAVE SAVED GIFFORDS' LIFE.... Amidst all of the unimaginable suffering in Tucson yesterday, there were also signs of extraordinary courage and grace.

The Arizona Republic reports today, for example, on Daniel Hernandez, who joined Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' (D) staff as an intern literally just last week. When the gunman opened fire, the 20-year-old University of Arizona junior was about 30 feet from the congresswoman, and instead of fleeing, Hernandez did the opposite.

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When the shots began that morning, he saw many people lying on the ground, including a young girl. Some were bleeding. Hernandez said he moved from person to person checking pulses.

"First the neck, then the wrist," he said. One man was already dead. Then he saw Giffords. She had fallen and was lying contorted on the sidewalk. She was bleeding.

Using his hand, Hernandez applied pressure to the entry wound on her forehead. He pulled her into his lap, holding her upright against him so she wouldn't choke on her own blood. Giffords was conscious, but quiet. [...]

Hernandez used his hand to apply pressure until someone from inside Safeway brought him clean smocks from the meat department. He used them to apply pressure on the entrance wound, unaware there was an exit wound. He never let go of her.

Hernandez, soaked in blood, stayed with Giffords in the ambulance en route to the hospital, holding her hand. Giffords, the article noted, "squeezed his back."

A hospital physician noted that Hernandez's efforts may have very well saved Giffords' life.

At a scene in which we saw humanity at its worst, it brings some comfort to also see humanity at its best.

—Steve Benen 8:30 AM January 9, 2011

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archiv ... 027452.php


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 3:51 am • # 34 
At mass there was mention of the possibility the shooter may be part of an anti seminic hate group.


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Googled and got this re DHS memo and shooter and antiseminic hate group ...http://www.heraldsun.com....y-e6frf7jx-1225984713213


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Here's the article I mentioned in my prior post, updated with even more info than when I first read it yesterday ~ Sooz 

Cops hunt 2nd suspect in deadly Ariz. rampage
Congresswoman Gabrille Giffords critically injured, 6 others killed in Tucson

msnbc.com news services
updated 1/9/2011 6:37:15 AM ET 2011-01-09T11:37:15

A gunman opened fire as a congresswoman met with constituents outside a grocery store, killing Arizona's chief federal judge and five others and leaving the lawmaker fighting for her life in an attempted assassination that had Americans questioning whether divisive politics had driven the attack.

The shooting targeted Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, authorities said, and left the three-term congresswoman in critical condition after a bullet passed through her head. A shaken President Barack Obama called the attack "a tragedy for our entire country."

Giffords, 40, a moderate Democrat, narrowly won re-election in November against a Tea Party candidate who opposed her support of the health care law. Anger over her position became violent at times, with her Tucson office vandalized a few hours after the House passed the overhaul last March. More recently, at a Giffords event someone dropped a weapon out of their pants.

The Pima County Sheriff's office listed the dead as:

    [*]John M. Roll, 63, a federal district court judge. [*]Gabriel Zimmerman, 30, Giffords' director of community outreach. [*]Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ. [*]Christina-Taylor Green, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary. [*]Dorthy Morris, 76. [*]Phyllis Schneck, 79. [/list]

Police say the shooter was in custody, and people familiar with the investigation told NBC News that he was Jared Lee Loughner, 22. Other sources gave The Associated Press the same name.

His motivation was not immediately known, but Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik described him as mentally unstable and possibly acting with an accomplice. He said in addition to the six deaths, 13 people were wounded in the melee. Dupnik said the rampage ended only after two people tackled the gunman.

Investigators said they were looking for an accomplice, believed to be in his 50s, who may have assisted in the attack.

A 9mm Glock handgun that had what police described as "an extended clip" with 30 bullets was recovered at the scene, The Washington Post reported. Officials told The Associated Press the gun used in the attack was purchased legally. The Post said it was bought Nov. 30 from the Sportsman's Warehouse in Tucson.

The shooter had another magazine that held about 30 bullets and two that held about 15 bullets each, sources told the Post, and he also had a knife.

'Guarded optimism'
Doctors were optimistic about Giffords surviving as she was responding to commands from doctors despite having a bullet go through her head. "With guarded optimism, I hope she will survive, but this is a very devastating wound," said Dr. Richard Carmona, the former surgeon general who lives in Tucson.

Dupnik pointed to the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country as he denounced the shooting.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," the sheriff said. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

Video: Second person sought in Ariz. shootings (on this page)

'Targets'
Giffords expressed similar concern before the shooting. In an interview after her office was vandalized, she referred to the animosity against her by conservatives, including Sarah Palin's decision to list Giffords' seat as one of the top "targets" in the midterm elections.

"For example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said in an interview with MSNBC.

Video: Congresswoman was ‘first target,' says eyewitness (on this page)

In the hours after the shooting, Palin issued a statement in which she expressed her "sincere condolences" to the family of Giffords and the other victims.

During his campaign effort to unseat Giffords in November, Republican challenger Jesse Kelly held fundraisers where he urged supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle. Kelly is a former Marine who served in Iraq and was pictured on his website in military gear holding his automatic weapon and promoting the event.

"I don't see the connection," between the fundraisers featuring weapons and Saturday's shooting, said John Ellinwood, Kelly's spokesman. "I don't know this person, we cannot find any records that he was associated with the campaign in any way. I just don't see the connection.

"Arizona is a state where people are firearms owners — this was just a deranged individual."

Law enforcement officials said members of Congress reported 42 cases of threats or violence in the first three months of 2010, nearly three times the 15 cases reported during the same period a year earlier. Nearly all dealt with the health care bill, and Giffords was among the targets.

The shooting cast a pall over the Capitol as politicians of all stripes denounced the attack as a horrific. Capitol police asked members of Congress to be more vigilant about security in the wake of the shooting. Obama dispatched his FBI chief to Arizona.

Newsvine: Leave your condolences for the victims

The office of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said all legislative activity in the House scheduled for next week would be postponed.

The suspect's exact motivation was not clear, but a former classmate described Lougher as a pot-smoking loner who had rambling beliefs about the world.

Video: Suspect: 'You could call me a terrorist' (on this page)

Federal law enforcement officials were poring over versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Loughner and over a YouTube video published weeks ago under an account "Classitup10" and linked to him. The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by officials, included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."

In one of several Youtube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona.

Story: Profile of suspect Jared Loughner: ‘I can't trust the current government'

"I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic)."

Giffords spokesman C.J. Karamargin said three Giffords staffers were shot. Two are expected to survive, but Gabe Zimmerman, a former social worker who served as Giffords' director of community outreach, was killed.

Giffords had worked with the judge in the past to line up funding to build a new courthouse in Yuma, and Obama hailed him for his nearly 40 years of service as a judge.

Roll, a married father of three children, was the chief judge in Arizona, appointed in 1991 by the first President Bush, NBC News reported.

"The devoted husband, father of three, grandfather of five, and friend to all who knew him, will be greatly missed by his family and community," said a statement released by the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona. "He was a warm, compassionate judge and inspirational leader in what is one of the busiest districts in the country."  

An uncle of the 9-year-old girl told the Arizona Republic Saturday evening that a neighbor was going to the event and invited Green along because she had just been elected to the student council and was interested in government.

"The next thing you know this happened. How do you prepare for something like this? My little niece got killed — took one on the chest and she is dead," Greg Segalini told a reporter for the Arizona newspaper. 

'Gabby'
Giffords was first elected to Congress amid a wave of Democratic victories in the 2006 election, and has been mentioned as a possible Senate candidate in 2012 and a gubernatorial prospect in 2014.

Giffords is married to astronaut Mark E. Kelly, who has piloted space shuttles Endeavour and Discovery. The two met in China in 2003 while they were serving on a committee there, and were married in January 2007. NBC News reported that Kelly flew to Tucson on a NASA aircraft after the shooting.

Sen. Bill Nelson, chairman of the Senate Commerce Space and Science Subcommittee, said her husband is training to be the next commander of the space shuttle mission slated for April. His brother is currently serving aboard the International Space Station, Nelson said.

'Chaos, people screaming, crying'
The shooting occurred at a shopping center called La Toscana Village as Giffords met with voters outside a Safeway grocery store.

Giffords, known as "Gabby," tweeted shortly before the shooting, describing her "Congress on Your Corner" event: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."

"It's not surprising that today Gabby was doing what she always does, listening to the hopes and concerns of her neighbors," Obama said. "That is the essence of what our democracy is about."

Mark Kimball, a communications staffer for Giffords, described the scene as "just complete chaos, people screaming, crying." The gunman fired at Giffords and her district director and started shooting indiscriminately at staffers and others standing in line to talk to the congresswoman, Kimball said.

Video: Rep. Giffords respected for political skill, warmth (on this page)

"He was not more than three or four feet from the congresswoman and the district director," he said.

Law enforcement officials and reporters from around the country quickly descended on Tucson, the second biggest city in the state and home to the University of Arizona. The scene has been converted into a command post with about a dozen or so emergency vehicles and agents in FBI jackets milling about the location.

Outside Giffords' office on Capitol Hill, a handful of congressional staffers could be seen walking into her office without comment, some with roller bags and one who was in tears. About a half dozen yellow flowers placed by one mourner sat outside the door.

'We are freaked out'
In Loughner's middle-class neighborhood — about a five-minute drive from the scene — sheriff's deputies had much of the street blocked off as curious neighbors asked what was going on. The neighborhood sits just off a bustling Tucson street and is lined with desert landscaping and palm trees.

Neighbors said Loughner kept to himself but that they often saw him walking his dog, almost always wearing a hooded sweat shirt listening to his iPod. Neighbors said Loughner lived with his parents.

"We're getting out of here. We are freaked out," 33-year-old David Cleveland, who lives a few doors down from Loughner's house, told The Associated Press.

Cleveland said he was taking his wife and children, ages 5 and 7, to her parent's home when they heard about the shooting.

"When we heard about it we just got sick to our stomachs," Cleveland said. "We just wanted to hold our kids tight."

High school classmate Grant Wiens, 22, said Loughner seemed to be "floating through life" and "doing his own thing."

"Sometimes religion was brought up or drugs. He smoked pot, I don't know how regularly. And he wasn't too keen on religion from what I could tell," Wiens said.

Tyler Ramsier, who graduated from Mountain View High School a year before Loughner, told the Arizona Republic that Loughner dressed in dark clothes.

Dangerous threats
The shooting comes amid a highly charged political environment that has seen several dangerous threats against lawmakers but nothing that reached the point of actual violence.

Video: An outpouring of grief in stricken Tucson (on this page)

A San Francisco man upset with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's support of health care reform pleaded guilty to threatening the Democratic congresswoman and her family, calling her directly on March 25 and threatening to destroy her Northern California home if she voted for health care reform.

In July, a California man known for his anger over left-leaning politics engaged in a shootout with highway patrol officers after planning an attack on the ACLU and another nonprofit group. The man said he wanted to "start a revolution" by killing people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation.

Giffords is known in her southern Arizona district for her numerous public outreach meetings, which she admitted in an October interview with The Associated Press can sometimes be challenging.

"You know, the crazies on all sides, the people who come out, the planet earth people," she said with a following an appearance with Adm. Mike Mullen in which the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was peppered with bizarre questions from an audience member. "I'm glad this just doesn't happen to me."

NBC News, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40978517/ns ... ?gt1=43001



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Googled and got this re DHS memo and shooter and antiseminic hate group ...http://www.heraldsun.com....y-e6frf7jx-1225984713213

Sadly, that doesn't surprise me much ~ the mindset of mentally-unbalanced raging hatred looks for kindred mindsets and any scintilla of encouragement ~ that is why the continuous and morally irresponsible violent rhetoric from prominent people for the past 2 years is so reprehensible and terrifying to me ~ yes, the shooter did the killing and wounding ~ but I think the media celebrities, some politicians, and some wannabe politicians spewing hate 24/7/365 bear responsibility as well ~

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PostPosted: 01/09/11 5:43 am • # 38 
The mentally unbalanced are usually the first to act on their fevered hatred for those things they perceive as acting against them.

The shooter was no tea-bagger or conservative. He was just another anti-government malcontent. Those are the people the GOP tries very hard to reach with their message of hatred and anger.

It worked very well for them this time. They will most likely gain a House seat because of it, which will be considered a good outcome by most republicans.

This is the kind of thing I have expected for quite some time. The tone has been set by the right wing. They are the ones who insist that if they don't get their way at the ballot box they might have to 'use their Second Amendment rights'. Sharon Angle said that. At the time I said we 'might have to start killing some of these people.' As I recall, GOP took my words over to CEII and made it appear that I invented the idea of 'offing the cons'. That wasn't true then and it isn't true now. What is true is that I saw the dangers in the tone of the debate that was being set and ok'ed by the right wing.

Nothing has really changed. If a republican gets Gibbons seat, it will become a viable way to reduce the influence of democrats on our government. At least that is the way a lot of right wing lunatics will see it.

The thing about this terrible event that bothers me is that the crazies on the right never see a problem with any war or military action by the US. The reason that they decide to murder someone is not because that person took us into a pointless war but because that person wants to make sure that all Americans have health insurance.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 5:54 am • # 39 
All hail Saint Sarah and her apostles of hate.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 6:07 am • # 40 
People who worship weapons are inherently weak and that makes them very dangerous when they are armed and feel that others aren't giving them their proper 'respect'.


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Thack wrote:
People who worship weapons are inherently weak and that makes them very dangerous when they are armed and feel that others aren't giving them their proper 'respect'.
Excellent observation, IMO.
Would you mind if I posted it in another forum?

  


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 6:39 am • # 42 
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i read his posts at youtube. he needs to work on his grammar and currency.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 6:41 am • # 43 
He'll have plenty of time to do so in his rubber room.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 6:49 am • # 44 
Can you imagine having a Palin equivalent in the Democratic Party having a gun crossfire map on the net with hunt season for caribous and caribou Barbie a prime target ? Would the GOP sit back , relax , be complicant with that violence incitement , and find that peachy keen?


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here is the thing that Keith mentioned on his program. you see this?

palin-crosshairs.jpg

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one down, 16 to go, i guess?



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PostPosted: 01/09/11 7:06 am • # 46 
Yes.  I was furious about that yesterday.  And Angle's Second Amendment solutions.  

Scale back the vitriol.  Lots of undiagnosed mentally ill people out there. 


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Yes.  I was furious about that yesterday.  And Angle's Second Amendment solutions.  

Scale back the vitriol.  Lots of undiagnosed mentally ill people out there. 

precisely.  and there is an obligation on the part of our "betters" to engage in the RATIONAL discourse that many in the US are no longer capable of engaging in.


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i wonder if there are people out there that think the gun is the ONLY solution. please don't answer that.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 7:11 am • # 49 
Yeah there is... his name is Dick and he shot his buddy. I'm sure there are many more like him.


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PostPosted: 01/09/11 7:42 am • # 50 
Boehner and the rest of his kind of the GOP I think are afraid of the second amendment solutioners ,the delusional birthers and the vitrioloc violent rhetoric members of the party. Heck , he gave credibility to the delusions of the birthers on his tv interview with his placating comments. He needs to ' man up.' lol The Christian nation revisionist rhetoric has also contributed to the hate atmosphere. I think the fact that we are a secular nation needs to be reinforced too. Bigotry and racism has been fueled,by complacency and IMO subtle and Not so subtle political strategy encouragement. What once were some useful idiots for the GOP have now gotten hard to contain. Geez , of course it is rather humorous to have watched how Boehner has negotiated attention seeking drama queen media whore nut case Bachmann away from her most desired but potentially more problematic for the saner GOPers position in the congress. She has been for the GOP in general hard to harness. I wish Boehner well in his mission to contain the total idiot subset btw.


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