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PostPosted: 01/18/11 3:54 pm • # 1 
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Can't say this is terribly surprising ~ and it only reinforces my opinion of Lieberman as being a snake ~ I'm guessing his real reason for not running is because he fears/dreads the humiliation of defeat ~ Sooz

Officials: Sen. Joe Lieberman will retire in 2012
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WASHINGTON – Sen. Joe Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee who angered the party by backing Republican John McCain for president in 2008, will retire and not seek a fifth term, Democratic officials said Tuesday.

Word of Lieberman's decision came just hours after North Dakota Sen. Kent Conrad, a Democrat, announced he would retire. Lieberman is an independent who usually votes with Democrats. Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana on Tuesday said he plans to seek a seventh term next year despite a challenge from tea party groups.

Lieberman's seat could pose a pick-up opportunity for Democrats in a state where President Obama has been popular.

Lieberman plans to announce his decision midday Wednesday at an event in Stamford, Conn. Lieberman nearly won the vice presidency on the Democratic ticket with running mate Al Gore in 2000.

Democratic officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said Tuesday that the independent who usually votes with Democrats would not run for re-election in 2012.

Lieberman, 68, was defeated the last time he ran for the Democratic Senate nomination in Connecticut, in 2006, but won a new term running as an independent in a three-way race.

Top Democrats like Sen. Christopher Dodd and President Barack Obama who had supported Lieberman in the 2006 primary instead backed Democratic nominee Ned Lamont in the fall general election. Lieberman was disappointed that some old friends weren't loyal to him.

In the years since, he aligned himself with Democrats in the Senate, who permitted him to chair a committee in return. Yet in 2008 he supported McCain, the Republican presidential candidate, who put the Connecticut lawmaker on his list of potential vice presidential running mates.

Lieberman's decision to speak at the 2008 GOP presidential nominating convention angered Democrats, and the speech he gave contrasting Obama to McCain angered them more.

"In the Senate, during the 3 1/2 years that Sen. Obama has been a member, he has not reached across party lines to accomplish anything significant, nor has he been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party to get something done," Lieberman said at the time.

Connecticut Democrats also have criticized Lieberman's strong support of the Iraq war, although they were pleased when he led the recent Senate fight to repeal the ban on gays serving openly in the military.

Lieberman's poll ratings in his home state had slipped in recent years, encouraging Democratic challengers and sparking speculation about the senator's retirement. Lieberman's colleague, Dodd, recently retired from the Senate.

Hours before Lieberman's plans became public, former Connecticut Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz said Tuesday she'll run in 2012 for Lieberman's seat.

Two Connecticut House Democrats, Chris Murphy and Joe Courtney, are also considering a run. Republican Linda McMahon is also seen as a potential challenger, despite losing her Senate bid last year against Democrat Richard Blumenthal.

There had been speculation about whether Lieberman would run in 2012 as a Democrat, Republican or independent.

After the 2008 election and at Obama's urging, Senate Democrats decided not to punish Lieberman for supporting the GOP ticket. They voted to let him keep his chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Obama was eager to strike a bipartisan tone for his presidency.

Two years ago, some state Democrats wanted to censure Lieberman for his actions. Ultimately, he was sent a stern letter. Since that time, he has had scant interaction with the party.

Lieberman told The Associated Press late last month that he was considering whether to seek another term in the Senate.

"It's a difficult decision for me because I really have loved my service here in the Senate, and I feel privileged to be here," he said. "I guess the question is — and I think you've always got to ask is — `Now, after 22 years, 24 years after this term is over, do I want to do it again? Or, do I want to try something else?' That's the question you've got to answer."

Associated Press writers David Espo in Washington and Sue Haigh in Connecticut contributed to this report.

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Sen Joe Lieberman will retire in 2012


That's too bad - he was one of the better Republicans.Image


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 4:04 am • # 3 
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LOL, John ~ here's more, which sounds about right ~ I really don't have a problem with congresspeople voting their consciences ~ but, to me, Lieberman's 'conscience' seemed to float freely to wherever he would garner the most attention vs principle ~ he proved himself, to me, to be the consummate 'politician', with all the negative attributes of 'politician' ~ the one thing I'm curious about, and will likely never know, is how much info he fed to the Rs since he still caucused with the Ds ~ I'm not sorry to see him retire ~ Sooz

LIEBERMAN'S NOT LEAVING; HE'S PUSHING THE JOEMENTUM IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.... More than a few folks on the left were relishing the opportunity to defeat Sen. Joe Lieberman (I) in Connecticut next year. It appears they won't get the chance -- the senator will announce today that he will not seek a fifth term.

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Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate in 2000 who later became deeply alienated from his party, will announce on Wednesday that he will not seek a fifth term, according to people he told of the decision.

Mr. Lieberman, 68, whose term is up in January 2013, has chosen to retire rather than face a difficult campaign for re-election, according to aides and others who spoke to the senator on Tuesday.

A source close to Lieberman told the New York Times that the senator decided retirement was preferable to defeat. "I don't think he wanted to go out feet first," the person said.

It's an important point. By all accounts, Lieberman's re-election prospects were very poor -- he won in 2006, after losing the Democratic primary, because it was effectively a two-way contest between Lieberman and Ned Lamont. Lieberman had enough GOP and independent support, along with some lingering Democratic backing, to win with relative ease. That wasn't going to happen in 2012 -- both major parties intend to run top-tier candidates -- and Lieberman's standing has weakened considerably in recent years, with moves that managed to annoy practically everyone.

In terms of a legacy, Lieberman will depart as a prominent national figure, with a level of public notoriety most senators never achieve. But in liberal/Democratic/progressive circles, the senator will very likely be remembered as a source of near-constant frustration and disappointment.

Regular readers know that I've long found Lieberman to be hopelessly exasperating, but I'm willing to concede his record has some high points. Just last month, Lieberman showed great leadership on DADT repeal, and was instrumental in getting it passed. Lieberman also had a very strong record on reproductive rights, which is more than can be said about many of his "centrist" brethren, and played a constructive role in helping defeat the GOP filibuster of the 2009 Recovery Act.

But then there's the rest of Lieberman's record. The cliche, repeated by many Democratic leaders over the years, is that Lieberman is "with us on everything but foreign policy." To be sure, when it came to national security, wars, and international affairs, the Connecticut Independent was an even more reliable Republican vote than some Republicans. There was literally no difference between Lieberman's vision and that of the Bush/Cheney team, and his allegiance with conservative Republicans like John McCain and Lindsey Graham on foreign policy was as misguided as it was maddening.

But the cliche was also wrong. For years, even when he was an actual Democrat, Lieberman adopted positions well to the right of his party on school vouchers, "tort reform," the Bush White House's "faith-based" initiative, gun control, and the "blame Hollywood" effort. Lieberman flirted with conservative changes to Social Security. He was the first Democrat to go after then-President Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal. During the uproar over Terri Schiavo, Lieberman was even sympathetic to Republican efforts.

Perhaps most strikingly, Lieberman was chiefly responsible for killing the public option in the health care debate, insisting at the outset that he would kill the entire initiative over this one, popular idea, and coming up with a series of bizarre rationales for his position.

Looking ahead, Democrats are optimistic about winning Lieberman's seat next year, and with good reason. The result will very likely be a reliable progressive voice, and a more consistent, less sanctimonious, lawmaker.

Postscript: I almost forgot that Lieberman was responsible for the most unintentionally hilarious bit of political spin I've ever heard. In 2004, as part of an inexplicable Democratic presidential campaign, Lieberman was counting on a strong showing in New Hampshire. He came in fifth, with just 9% support. Heralding the results to supporters the night of the primary, Lieberman proudly proclaimed, "We are in a three-way split decision ... for third place."

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM January 19, 2011

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PostPosted: 01/19/11 4:11 am • # 4 
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So he`s a shyte for not toeing the party line like a lemming as a Dem... or he`s a shyte for for going his own way as an Independant... or ...


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 4:17 am • # 5 
or... he's a shit disguised as a sandwich. LIEberman has been a Democrat in name only and a flip-flopper ever since he went "independant".


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 4:33 am • # 6 
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oskar, I said in post #2 "I really don't have a problem with congresspeople voting their consciences ~ but, to me, Lieberman's 'conscience' seemed to float freely to wherever he would garner the most attention vs principle" ~ that is my sense of Joe Lieberman ~ and, altho I admit I didn't know much about Lieberman until he was on the ticket as VP, Sid makes a great point about Lieberman's flip-flopping in recent years ~ since going 'independent', which was done for purely political reasons to get reelected, Lieberman has caucused with the Ds ~ but common sense tells us that that was purely to maintain his committee chairmanship and seniority ~

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And the Dems didn`t, and still don`t, have the cojones to boot him out of the Den caucus.


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Exactly right, oskar ~ I'm guessing it had to do with numbers ~ but it pissed me off ~

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Reckon that means the Dems have the same type of `conscience`as Senator Lieberman.


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 5:36 am • # 10 
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Maybe it's just me, but I see a difference between advancing/promoting policy and advancing/promoting self ~

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PostPosted: 01/19/11 5:38 am • # 11 
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sooz08 wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I see a difference between advancing/promoting policy and advancing/promoting self ~

Sooz
Which politician(s) don`t promote `self`É

  


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 5:59 am • # 12 
Lieberman is a piece of crap.


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 2:47 pm • # 13 
I noticed McCain is suggesting Obama pick Lieberman for Defense Secretary.


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PostPosted: 01/19/11 2:59 pm • # 14 
susanneinohio wrote:
I noticed McCain is suggesting Obama pick Lieberman for Defense Secretary.
Hmmm... McCain.... Isn't he the guy who gave us Saint Sarah?

Like Obama should be trusting HIS judgement.


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Sidartha wrote:
susanneinohio wrote:
I noticed McCain is suggesting Obama pick Lieberman for Defense Secretary.
Hmmm... McCain.... Isn't he the guy who gave us Saint Sarah?

Like Obama should be trusting HIS judgement.
McCain lost every red cent of collateral he had with Obama in 2008.  he would have to be among the last people Obama would seek for advice.


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PostPosted: 01/20/11 7:59 am • # 16 
susanneinohio wrote:
I noticed McCain is suggesting Obama pick Lieberman for Defense Secretary.
We have enough people down at Defense who are ardent supporters of Israel. They are so supportive that they are allowing the US military to be used as a proxy army.


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PostPosted: 01/21/11 5:03 am • # 17 
Lieberman yesterday was perpetuating the Iraq - WMD bs. He self destructed , yet again.


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PostPosted: 01/21/11 7:19 am • # 18 
Doesn't his wife have something to do with the health insurance industry?  May be more profitable for him to be out of the Senate.


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