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PostPosted: 01/25/11 6:11 am • # 1 
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Anyone surprised? ~ I'll try to find the full Office of Special Counsel report ~ Sooz

LOYAL BUSHIES FLAGRANTLY IGNORED THE LAW.... When we think of the Bush/Cheney White House we tend to think of policy failures, incompetence, comically flawed judgment, and systemic mismanagement.

But the failed Republican administration was also corrupt, routinely ignoring laws that interfered with its agenda.

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At least seven Cabinet secretaries to President George W. Bush took politically motivated trips at taxpayer expense while aides falsely claimed they were traveling on official business, the independent Office of Special Counsel said Monday night in concluding a three-year probe.

In a report on allegations that first surfaced before Bush left office, the agency condemned what it depicted as widespread violations of a law restricting political activities by federal workers and illegal use of federal funds to engage in electioneering. [...]

This federally funded travel was organized, approved and closely tracked by Bush's political office, the Office of Special Counsel found, describing the activity as leading to the illegal diversion of federal funds and workers' time.

The report covered multiple areas of wrongdoing related to the Hatch Act, which prohibits federal officials from using their office to influence the electoral process, and found "a systematic misuse of federal resources."

There were, for example, several dozen mandatory briefings for federal employees -- during work hours and in federal office buildings -- in which White House officials instructed public employees on how they could help Republican campaign efforts. Bushies later described the briefings as "informational discussions," but all available evidence suggests that's a lie.

There were also the extensive travel expenses. In order to give the impression that vulnerable Republican lawmakers were important and powerful, the Bush White House arranged for cabinet secretaries to visit key campaign battlegrounds to give GOP candidates a public-relations boost. The law prohibits officials from using our money this way, and taxpayers were never reimbursed. When asked, Bushies said the trips were official government business. Like the rest of the defense, this wasn't true, either.

And in case that wasn't quite enough, Republican National Committee officials literally just moved their operations into the White House, to coordinate campaign efforts. This is illegal, too.

All of the transgressions were coordinated by the Bush/Cheney Office of Political Affairs, which was overseen by Karl Rove, and which is prohibited from using public funds for partisan political purposes.

In the Bush era, Rove's operation seemed to do nothing but use our money for partisan political purposes.

If you're wondering about the potential legal fallout of these revelations, the Office of Special Counsel, which released its report yesterday, said it no longer has any jurisdiction now that the Bush administration has left office. The Justice Department could conceivably pursue this, but it's given no indication that it intends to do so.

The report comes just a few days after the Obama White House announced it would shutter its Office of Political Affairs altogether, so as to avoid any misuse of public funds.

Rep. Darrell Issa's (R-Calif.) recent claim -- he called President Obama's team "one of the most corrupt administrations" in recent memory -- is looking increasingly ridiculous all the time.

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM January 25, 2011

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_01/027679.php


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 6:21 am • # 2 
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So, will the current administration have the cojones to file charges where the law was violated or will they condone illegal behaviour by doing nothing?


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 6:28 am • # 3 
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oskar576 wrote:
So, will the current administration have the cojones to file charges where the law was violated or will they condone illegal behaviour by doing nothing?

the historic practice is to defend the previous administration, oskar.  that is nothing against Obama, but against our system.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 6:53 am • # 4 
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Got it... the "system" commits/condones illegalities... then you wonder why the government is corrupt.

Ever wonder why the Tea Party got some traction last election?


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 7:17 am • # 5 
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oskar576 wrote:
Got it... the "system" commits/condones illegalities... then you wonder why the government is corrupt.

Ever wonder why the Tea Party got some traction last election?

that has nothing to do with corruption, as far as i can tell.  they would be wanting to overthrow the least government on earth if it was their government.  that is just how they are.

but if i am wrong about that, then they are really useful tools, in that the most corrupt elements in our society back that movement.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 7:22 am • # 6 
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I'm sorry macro, but allowing illegal acts to slide IS corruption. That it has become the tradition to do so is even worse.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 7:52 am • # 7 
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oskar576 wrote:
I'm sorry macro, but allowing illegal acts to slide IS corruption. That it has become the tradition to do so is even worse.

it almost sounds as if you think we are arguing this point.  do you?


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 8:09 am • # 8 
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Seems that way.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 8:13 am • # 9 
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I have long ached to see the whole gwb administration wearing orange jumpsuits ~ I remember us having a very similar, if not identical, conversation when confirmation of gwb okaying torture was made public ~ in the greater scheme of things, this current exposed illegality takes a distant back seat IMO ~ I understand wanting people to pay a price for their crimes ~ I want that too ~ but I also [admittedly somewhat begrudgingly] see the value in moving and looking forward ~ that's why I see it as an imperative to make this kind of information public each and every time ~ I'm hoping that there will be a tipping point, where the public is so enraged that the government cannot avoid acting ~

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PostPosted: 01/25/11 8:37 am • # 10 
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Yeah, and with all those millions of guns in the hands of all those millions of enraged people when that tipping point is reached...
Careful what you wish for, sooz.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 8:56 am • # 11 
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Good point, oskar ~ Image

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PostPosted: 01/25/11 9:00 am • # 12 
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IMO, it's high time to change that "tradition" of allowing all these illegalities to slide.
I don't think Dems are exactly thrilled with their party either.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 1:28 pm • # 13 
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oskar576 wrote:
Seems that way.

think again.  i am just stating facts.  i don't like them any more than you do.


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PostPosted: 01/25/11 4:48 pm • # 14 
oskar576 wrote:
So, will the current administration have the cojones to file charges where the law was violated or will they condone illegal behaviour by doing nothing?


The maximum penalty for Hatch Act violations is termination of federal employment.  These people are no longer federal employees.

This is the reason there should not be a White House Office of Political Affairs and taxpayers should not be paying salaries to Karl Rove, David Axelrod or any political operatives for the President.  It spawns the misuse of taxpayer funds.  If the President wants his political advisors at his side, they should not have White House offices and should be paid either directly out of the President's pocket or by his campaign committee.


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PostPosted: 01/26/11 3:40 am • # 15 
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oskar576 wrote:
So, will the current administration have the cojones to file charges where the law was violated or will they condone illegal behaviour by doing nothing?


The maximum penalty for Hatch Act violations is termination of federal employment.  These people are no longer federal employees.

This is the reason there should not be a White House Office of Political Affairs and taxpayers should not be paying salaries to Karl Rove, David Axelrod or any political operatives for the President.  It spawns the misuse of taxpayer funds.  If the President wants his political advisors at his side, they should not have White House offices and should be paid either directly out of the President's pocket or by his campaign committee.
So it's "legal" to rob from the taxpayers in the US.
No wonder they're pissed off.


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PostPosted: 01/26/11 4:01 am • # 16 
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Obama has closed the WH Office of Political Affairs ~ I personally have no problem with any potus choosing his own advisors ~ I can see the value of having a 'political operative' on the public payroll ~ but it depends on how that 'political operative' is used ~ it's one thing to help mold administration policies and messages to be more acceptable to wide swaths of the public so long as those messages are honest ~ it's quite another thing to force-feed manufactured/distorted/dishonest 'facts' to the public ~

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PostPosted: 01/26/11 4:23 am • # 17 
"Loyal Bushies Flagrantly Ignored The Law"

The sky is blue.


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