Kathy
I'm not questioning the dates but some of the victims listed weren't known at the time of the incidents. Most of the victims didn't come forward until late 2010 after Sandusky
was arrested in the 2002 case.

oskar
If Sandusky had still been working for Paterno I would agree- he wasn't.  If the assault had been witnessed by Paterno I would agree- it wasn't.
Do you know any cops who accept complaints from people giving hearsay evidence?  It was obvious the Administration decided
 not to report it to the prosecutor responsible for that area.  It was the administration (well maybe just the Board of Trustees) that decided to offer up Paterno as a scapegoat.A bunch of old wealthy white men,
mostly Republicans, playing cya.  In my opinion.

Yes, it says it was common knowledge that he had little boys easily available to him, he showered with them, took themout of state etc.  It does not sa it was common knowledge he molested them.  It said that knowing about his time with the boys and then hearing someone saw him molesting/raping a kid should have sent up red flags and more should have been done to make sure the kids were safe.  I did not say and did not have the intent to say it was common knowledge that Sandusky was abusing kids.  That's your warped version, not what I said.

  

Doesn't matter.
I'm not part of my neighbours' families but if I hear about or witness I will report it and I will follow up to ensure that the matter was seriously and thouroughly investigated.

Well, I would say that it didn't take very well because the crap you tried to throw at me was way off the mark.  I'd call that amateur.  Ha.  

  

Explain this one to me again.  So this guy doesn't work for Joe any more?  Hasn't for three years. 28 yo tells Joe what he saw and Joe reports the incident to authorities.  Sanduski is barred from the college.  The PSU administration knows and the cops know and Second Mile knows.   What control does Joe actually have of this situation any more?  Why is Joe the scapegoat here? 

One of my functions at the hospital is calling DYFS if I think I should for Mothers and new borns.  If the mother illegal drug screens, I call DYFS.  I have absolutely no control if that mother abuses that child further.  I have to trust DYFS to do their jobs.  And before someone tells me that doesn't correlate, think about it.  To me it does.

I think that is the right attitude, oskar.  Even Paterno admitted he should have done more.  Ok, I mispoke when I said Sandusky worked for Paterno.  Well actually he had worked for Paterno but not when the events occurred.  Does that take away responsiility to help a child or to protect other children?  I think not.  Again, it is the legal vs the moral.  Some people feel all he needed to do was the legal and they were satisfied.  Some of us feel he also had a moral obligation.  Anyone who heard the allegations should have done more.

  

jeannept
" did not say and did not have the intent to say it was common knowledge that Sandusky was abusing kids. That's your warped version, not what I said."


That's why I said unless you're a concrete thinker you said it WAS common knowledge what Sandusky was doing.  You mentioned that "they" knew that Second Mile gave him access to kids- "they" knew that he was showering with kids.
What grown man showers with kids (other than his own and even that is not common). Given what you said "they" knew I don't think it's warped to say he was known to be abusing kids. Apparently you think you actually have to use the words "abusing kids"
for your statement to mean that. That's called concrete thinking.

         

So how are you going to insure that Sandusky doesn't abuse any more kids?   I think he's out on bail right now?   Private Detectives following him around or maybe body guarding all kids in Central PA?    Putting out a hit?   How are you doing it?  

Did Paterno have any power over who did what in gthagt athletic facility? Or was he just another tenant?

I think Sandusky was emertus so he had access.  Once the abuse was reported, he was locked out.  

  

That's the thing that makes this whole situation stink. You've got people in authority at this school who have enough evidence of criminal behavior to lock the guy out of their facilities, but it's deemed not sufficient evidence to alert the cops or anyone else. Somebody made the decision that raping a boy in the shower was not that big a deal. I think a lot of people concurred with the decision, or Sandusky would have been arrested a long time ago.

And what's the deal with the disappeared asst. DA connected with an investigation of Sandusky, whose car was found in the river, finally declared dead after some years? I have never understood that...if it was never reported to the cops, what was asst. DA doing?

McQuery said he thought he talked to the cops when he and Joe met with Shultz the VP of Business and Finance who oversaw the cops and the Curley, Athletic Director.  If there is one thing I'd fault Joe for directly calling the university cops directly. 

 However the cops were called in 1998 and the DA did not file charges.  

http://deadspin.com/5868787/former-penn-state-police-chief-testifies-that-psu-administrator-never-told-him-about-2002-sandusky-shower-incident

For Bunker - Did you read Gricar disappeared after a trip to Lewisburg in 2005 and his PC was in the Susquehanna?  The timeline didn't tell his  exact involvement (so more research) but I liked the local references. 

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-13/news/30392368_1_grand-jury-jerry-sandusky-young-boy

I never got a response to my question asking why you and others thought Paterno smoked.    I tried to load an article which states that he didn't smoke. I had no luck- will try later.

Joe Paterno Didn't Smoke – So What Caused His Lung Cancer?

Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:50 PM

By Charlotte Libov

Print this Page

[url=/forward_page/]Forward Page[/url]

[url=/contact/editorial/]Email Us[/url]

NewsMax health? LOL!

Dana Reeves (Christopher's wife) who died of lung cancer never smoked either.

I followed gop's lead and thought smoking played a role.   I was wrong.