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From now on, "This Week in God" will be a recurring thread [rather than a separate thread each week] ~ this should make searching easier and quicker ~

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This Week in God

First up from the God Machine this week is the end of the extraordinary Nuns On The Bus tour, which wrapped up in Washington this week, after a series of well-received events in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic states. Suzy Khimm reported this week on the culmination of the successful tour.

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"It's immoral!" [Sister Diane Donohue, an] 81-year-old Catholic nun said of [Paul Ryan's] fiscal plan, as the crowd gathered on Capitol Hill erupted in cheers. Another nun, Sister Simone Campbell, denounced the proposed cuts to food stamps, child care, and other programs for the needy. "That's not Christian," said Campbell, who leads a Catholic social justice lobby called NETWORK. [...]

The nuns were concluding a two-week bus tour through nine swing states to protest the Ryan budget proposal, contending that it undermined Catholic teachings to serve the poor and vulnerable. Their rally on Monday outside the United Methodist Church's D.C. offices was peppered with prayers, gospel songs, and Bible verses (Isaiah 58:7: "Share your food with the hungry, and give shelter to the homeless.")

But the Catholic nuns also understand that Kumbaya moments aren't enough to change votes in Washington: They have a full-fledged lobbying campaign, complete with a 53-page "faithful budget" that outlines their own fiscal priorities in considerable detail, backed by an interfaith coalition of social justice groups.

There can be no doubt that the nuns have been noticed on Capitol Hill. Indeed, Sens. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), and Susan Collins (R-Maine) introduced a resolution this week, coinciding with the end of the tour, honoring nuns. They said in a statement that the resolution "recognizes the Catholic Sisters' fulfillment of their vital missions to teach our children, care for the sick, feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, lead major institutions, demand corporate responsibility and fight for policies that promote human dignity."

The priorities of the Nuns On The Bus are non-partisan, but given their proposed policies -- a rejection of austerity, coupled with higher taxes on the wealthy -- Republicans, especially the right-wing chairman of the House Budget Committee who inspired the tour in the first place, are generally dismissive of their pleas.

When Democrats disagree with Catholic leaders on contraception, it's billed as proof of a war on faith. When Republicans disagree with Catholic leaders on social justice, it's proof that the right is fiscally responsible.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* A Republican state senator this week recommended a proposal that would prevent Muslims in the state from building houses of worship. Other faiths would not be affected.

* A Christian minister in Alabama is hosting a pastor's conference this weekend, and "all White Christians" are invited. Asked about the discrimination, the Rev. William Collier said, "We don't have the facilities to accommodate" those who are not "part of the chosen race."

* The Vatican is running its largest budget deficit in years. After briefly running a profit, the Vatican ran a $19 million deficit last year.

* And a growing number of American Mormons are going high-tech in the hopes of boosting Mitt Romney's Republican presidential campaign. Romney, of course, would be the nation's first Mormon president (thanks to reader R.P. for the tip).

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PostPosted: 07/14/12 3:35 am • # 4 
It's a good ploy. For many conservative evangelical christians and for the many more who are just fans and like going to big churches like Warren's, Hitler showing up at a church would get him votes. God has forgiven him they would say, he has found the lord, his sins have been cast away, he is washed in the blood of the lamb.

It's a huge steaming pile of crap, but it gets votes.


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Can omniscient God, whoKnows the future, findThe omnipotence to Change his future mind?

He's such a know-it-all.


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This Week in God
By Steve Benen - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

First up from the God Machine this week is a look at a popular Republican governor, facing criticism from his own party because his administration had the audacity to hire a Muslim-American employee.

At issue is Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam's (R) decision to appoint Samar Ali as international director at the state's Department of Economic and Community Development (ECD). Ali, a 30-year-old lawyer, is a former White House fellow who grew up in a small town in Tennessee, before getting undergraduate and law degrees from Vanderbilt University in Nashville, where she was student-body president. She's also a Muslim.

And for some Republican activists, that's a problem. In fact, it's such a problem, that several Republican Party county organizations have passed resolutions criticizing Haslam for hiring Ali, among other people the right doesn't like.

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The county GOP resolutions denounce Ali as an expert in "Sharia compliant finance."

"Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam has elevated and/or afford [sic] preferential political status to Sharia adherents in Tennessee, thereby aiding and abetting the advancement of an ideology and doctrine which is wholly incompatible with the Constitution of the United States and the Tennessee Constitution," the Williamson resolution, dated July 10, 2012, states.

Kevin Kookogey, chairman of the Williamson County Republicans, told TPM his own party's governor just doesn't understand "the threat of Shariah." Kookogey, in all seriousness, added that Haslam administration officials "seem willing to accept the claims and defense of the Muslim Brotherhood at face value, refusing to even consider that, perhaps, those bent on destroying Western Civilization might just be infiltrating our institutions."

For its part, the Haslam administration doesn't seem to care about the resolutions approved by county Republican committees. One official said, "We have absolutely no plans to dismiss [Ali]. On the contrary, we are proud of her hire and lucky to have her as part of our team."

Also from the God Machine this week:

* To put it mildly, the Christian conservatives were eager to exploit the tragic violence in Aurora yesterday, blaming the murders on, among other things, the absence of state-sponsored prayer in public schools and government-endorsed Ten Commandments displays.

* Rick Warren, the mega-church pastor and author, announced this week he will host another forum for the presidential candidates, just as he did in 2008. The date has not yet been set, and neither President Obama nor Mitt Romney has formally agreed to participate.

* David Barton's "The Jefferson Lies" was named the "Least Credible History Book in Print" this week. Barton is a pseudo-historian who's become a celebrity within the religious right movement.

* And a federal judge this week agreed that Muslims in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, who've been trying for months to get a permit to use their new mosque, "should be allowed to worship there in time for Ramadan," which began on Thursday (thanks to reader R.P. for the tip).

http://maddowblog.msnbc.m...33-this-week-in-god?lite



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* And regional German court's recent ban on circumcision has, oddly enough, brought together Jewish and Muslim organizations that are outraged by the ruling (thanks to R.P. for the heads-up).

The Bundestag is already scrambling to write a law exempting Muslims and Jews. However, there will be most likely some regulations like the snipping has to be done under clinical conditions and not by grabbing the next best knife from the kitchen drawer.

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The court made its ruling in the case of a 4-year-old boy who had been circumcised at the wishes of his Muslim parents. Two days later, he began bleeding profusely and was taken to a hospital — at which point a public prosecutor stepped in and filed charges against the doctor.

The regional court acquitted the doctor, but decided that the operation did in fact constitute bodily injury and that the child's right to physical integrity and self-determination comes before the parents' basic rights, including freedom of religion.

The ruling only applies to the area around Cologne, but the backlash has been severe across the country, perhaps reflecting the concern that it could become a ban on the federal level. Leaders in the Muslim community, which numbers about 4 million in Germany, said the ruling was “adversarial to the cause of integration and discriminatory against all the parties concerned.â€



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Too bad they're knuckling under.
'Course, they could frame a law that doesn't ban circumcision as long as it's done in a medically recognised manner but that the "victim" has the right to sue the ass off his parents and the doctor/hospital/clinic for disfiguring him without his consent.


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Yet these same type of Christians are the ones who favor the death penalty. Is that also "God's will"?
This is from a story about yet another child left in a daycare van who died. Image No wonder they are nuts. Banging their heads against the wall. On one hand it's "God's will" on the other hand it's "those evil Muslims/atheists trying to destroy Christianity". So which is it? If "God's got this thing in control" then they should just sit back and let it all happen. Right?Image

One of Benjamin's grandmothers said she knows the woman who owns the day care and although she has burning questions, she is choosing to forgive the employees.

"Well I can't hold her responsible because God has got this thing in control. It's God's will, God's will," said Louria Washington. "The time that he gave us, the three years he gave us Benjamin, we just appreciate and thank God just for the three years."

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Too bad they're knuckling under.

Oskar, it's a very sensitive issue. Already there were some groups calling the judge (and basically every non-muslim, non-jewish German) the new Nazis.
Besides, if there would be a nation-wide ban the snipping fans would just travel to Turkey where they really just grab the dirty knife right after slitting the throat of some animal.


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Too bad they're knuckling under.

Oskar, it's a very sensitive issue. Already there were some groups calling the judge (and basically every non-muslim, non-jewish German) the new Nazis.
Besides, if there would be a nation-wide ban the snipping fans would just travel to Turkey where they really just grab the dirty knife right after slitting the throat of some animal.
See the above proposed law.
Call it the Foreskin Security Initiative.

  


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This Week in God

First up from the God Machine this week is a look at a new report from the Pew Forum for Religion and Public life, which as Jamelle Bouie noted, found some unexpected results when it came to evaluating the religiosity of the major-party presidential candidates.

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The Church of Latter-Day Saints is still a mystery to many Americans, and there were fears that [Mitt] Romney's Mormonism would hurt him with voters unfamiliar with the religion. But the latest [Pew survey] suggests that Romney has nothing to worry about -- of the voters who know that Romney is a Mormon (60 percent), the vast majority say they are either comfortable with his faith (60 percent) or that it doesn't matter at all (21 percent). [...]

Indeed, of the two candidates, religion actually seems to be a bigger factor for President Obama.

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I put together this chart this morning, showing the percentage of Americans who falsely believe President Obama is a secret Muslim, broken down by self-identified political affiliation.

Overall, less than of Americans (49%) overall, even after three-and-a-half years of Obama's presidency, can correctly identify his Christian faith, while 17% continue to believe he's a secret Muslim. But it's the GOP's far-right base that's throwing off the curve -- more than a third of them get it wrong.

What's more, note the trend -- after getting to watch the president over nearly four years, listening to his speeches in which he's talked about his Christian faith, watching him get inaugurated with his hand on a Christian Bible, more Americans believe Obama's a Muslim now than they did in October 2008, and the number of conservative Republicans who believe this has more than doubled. The more they learned about reality, the deeper they sank into their alternate reality.

The conventional wisdom was that Romney's Mormonism might pose a problem for him in 2012, but that's not the case -- Americans know he's a Mormon and don't care. With 100 days to go before the election, more voters say they're "uncomfortable" with Obama's religion than his rival's.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* Oops: "Mitt Romney is making a big push for the Jewish vote. In classic Romney (i.e., clueless) form, his campaign scheduled a trip to Israel on the Jewish fast day of Tisha B'Av." Gershom Gorenberg added, "It seems no one on his staff checked a Jewish calendar" before scheduling his trip to Israel.

* A tough sentence for a tragic cover-up: "Msgr. William J. Lynn, the first Roman Catholic Church official in the United States to be convicted of covering up sexual abuses by priests under his supervision, was sentenced Tuesday to three to six years in prison." Lynn's efforts to cover up the sexual abuse of children spanned decades, and included shielding predatory priests, transferring them to unwary parishes, and lying to the public (thanks to reader R.P. for the tip).

* In the wake of Rep. Michele Bachmann's (R-Minn.) anti-Muslim witch hunt, 42 religious and secular organizations joined together this week to send a letter to lawmakers, condemning the effort. The signatories included the U.S. Conference on Catholic Bishops. The letter comes a week after a similar condemnation from the Anti-Defamation League.

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oskar576 wrote:
jabra2 wrote:
Too bad they're knuckling under.

Oskar, it's a very sensitive issue. Already there were some groups calling the judge (and basically every non-muslim, non-jewish German) the new Nazis.
Besides, if there would be a nation-wide ban the snipping fans would just travel to Turkey where they really just grab the dirty knife right after slitting the throat of some animal.
See the above proposed law.
Call it the Foreskin Security Initiative.

  


Well, let me just say this:

If the Almighty God, Lord of the Universe, the Creator and guider of billions of light-years, countless Galaxies and energies unimaginable to the human mind, cares about whether or not I have a foreskin he can come and check it out himself; and while he is at it, he can suck on it as well .... Image


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So god gives men foreskins and man lops them off.
Isn't that contradictory?


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PostPosted: 08/06/12 5:10 am • # 16 
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So god gives men foreskins and man lops them off.
Isn't that contradictory?
Evidently man is supposed to fix god's mistakes ....

  


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You mean like having a ni**** in the WHITE House?


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Obama needs to issue a Presidential Order to paint the White House. It's looking decrepit.
Paint the effer Black and be done with it.


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Front, one day soon, you'll get over your reticence and not hold back! ~ :b  ~ LOL!

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This Week in God
By Steve Benen - Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

First up from the God Machine this week is the latest development in the shooting at the Family Research Council's headquarters, where the religious right powerhouse seems eager to exploit public sympathy and give up the moral high ground.

To briefly recap, Floyd Corkins stands accused of shooting an unarmed guard at the FRC offices in Washington this week, motivated by his political opposition to the group's far-right, anti-gay message. Fortunately, the victim, Leo Johnson, will recover and no one else was hurt.

On Thursday, FRC president Tony Perkins said the Southern Poverty Law Center gave the gunman "license" by criticizing the Family Research Council's work -- an argument the right generally rejects. Yesterday, Perkins went even further.

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After trying to blame the Southern Poverty Law Center for the deplorable shooting that occurred at the Family Research Council’s office this week, FRC president Tony Perkins today also implicated the Obama administration in the shooting. While speaking with Rick Santorum today on Washington Watch Weeklyabout the Obama administration’s “attack on religious freedom,” Perkins said that what “we witnessed this past week at the Family Research Council” is “clearly linked to that same atmosphere of hostility that’s created by the public policies of an administration that’s indifferent or hostile to religious freedom.”

This shameful attempt to connect the Obama administration to the shooting is just the latest sign of the FRC’s attempt to exploit the tragedy for political purposes.

This seems like an exceptionally bad idea. As Perkins sees it, the Obama administration, presumably because of its support for contraception access, has created an "atmosphere of hostility" that led to some nut shooting a security guard.

The Family Research Council received an outpouring of well wishes and sympathy this week, because decent people everywhere, whether they're offended by the FRC's work or not, reject this kind of violence. That said, there's just no reason for the far-right organization to squander that goodwill so quickly, recklessly trying to blame its perceived enemies for an incident they had nothing to do with.

Perkins is making a mistake with these tactics, and I can't help but wonder if he'll look back at this moment in the near future, wondering whether he should have chosen a classier path.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* A Roman Catholic group in Wisconsin got to work this week, praying for Republican Paul Ryan to change his policies as they relate to the poor. "This group, which includes Franciscan friars, joins in the growing protests from Catholic clergy concerned about the impact Ryan's deep cuts in social programs will have on vulnerable members of society."

* Republicans in Kentucky's state legislature successfully pushed to tie the state's testing program to national education standards, but are now regretting the decision -- the standards include modern biology and they believe "the biblical account of creationism ... should be taught in Kentucky classrooms" (thanks to reader R.P. for the tip).

* Vatican City: "A Vatican judge on Monday ordered the pope's butler and a fellow lay employee to stand trial for the alleged pilfering of documents from Pope Benedict XVI's private apartment, in an embarrassing scandal that exposed power struggles and purported corruption at the Holy See's highest levels."

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Reminder: this is one of those threads that includes numerous "live links" to further info in the original, which is accessible at the end link ~ Sooz

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By Steve Benen - Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

First up from the God Machine this week is a look at the extent to which the religious right movement is ignoring the Republican Party establishment and rallying in defense of Todd Akin's (R) Senate campaign in Missouri.

On Thursday, Mike Huckabee threw his support to the right-wing candidate, signaling broader support from evangelicals, but also note how far religious right figures like Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association were willing to go in backing Akin.



As Right Wing Watch noted, Fischer initially likened Akin criticism to the to the Pharisees' persecution of Jesus, but in this clip, the AFA leader went further, suggesting the congressman has practically been a rape victim himself. "You talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin," Fischer said.

Though that kind of rhetoric may be unique to the AFA, religious right support for Akin is broad and solidifying -- the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America, among others, are defending the Republican from GOP attacks.

Some of this support appears to even push legal boundaries. Federal tax law prohibits tax-exempt religious groups from intervening in political campaigns, but Americans United for Separation of Church and State reported this week that the Missouri Baptist Convention has actually taken deliberate steps to get Akin elected, which the IRS may well find problematic.

The larger point, though, is that a meaningful schism is getting wider, with the Republican establishment on one side and evangelical social conservatives, who largely approve of Akin's bizarre understanding of biology, on the other.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* Political reporters were, for the first time, invited to attend Mormon church services with Mitt Romney and his family last weekend.

* Rep. Ben Quayle (R) of Arizona this week tried to argue on Fox News that the recent Republican shenanigans at the Sea of Galilee had a religious underpinning. "[S]ome people had been talking about, 'This is the only opportunity that we will be able to go into the sea where Jesus walked on water,'" he said.

* Rev. Grant Storm, a Louisiana-based Christian pastor known for his anti-gay activism, was convicted of obscenity this week after being caught masturbating at a public park near a children's playground.

* And E.J. Dionne sat down with Massachusetts Senate hopeful Elizabeth Warren this week, and covered her religious beliefs in ways most Warren interviews have not. Pay particular attention to the emphasis the candidate places on the Book of Matthew.

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* Rev. Grant Storm, a Louisiana-based Christian pastor known for his anti-gay activism, was convicted of obscenity this week after being caught masturbating at a public park near a children's playground.

Another wanker.


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By Steve Benen - Sat Sep 1, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

First up from the God Machine this week is a look at evangelical Christians who attended the Republican National Convention, some of whom believe they successfully moved a hurricane away from Tampa.



This clip originally ran on TV preacher Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network, featuring Jesten Peters of Keys of Authority Ministries.

It's worth noting that Robertson, a former Republican presidential candidate and prominent Republican activist, also claims to have the ability to move hurricanes, a power he says he's used more than once.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* Hundreds of Muslims attended a Friday prayer yesterday in Charlotte, in advance of the Democratic National Convention, hoping to mobilize Muslim-American voters and get them engaged in political discourse. A Christian group called Operation Save America protested and the story has received attention from Fox News.

* The president of the Sikh Society of Central Florida was invited to speak at a Republican National Convention this week. Some in the religious right were not at all pleased.

* Father Benedict Groeschel, the director of the Office for Spiritual Development for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York, wrote an opinion piece for the National Catholic Register suggesting child victims of sexual abuse are partially to blame. As Groeschel sees it, the minor victims played the role of "the seducer" with convicted child predators like Jerry Sandusky. The National Catholic Register has since taken down Groeschel's piece.

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First up from the God Machine this week is a look at evangelical Christians who attended the Republican National Convention, some of whom believe they successfully moved a hurricane away from Tampa

So they thank God for letting them have their little annointing ceremony and visits to tropical brothels by moving the storm away from Tampa and setting it on course for New Orleans. How Christian of them!


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Well New Orleans is immoral, don't ya know? They need a little cleansing every now and then.

I have to wonder why their prayer-power shield only extends around where they are meeting? Can they not give it more ZPMs (Stargate reference :b ) and boost it to shield the entire US? Do they not love their country enough to do that? They must not be patriotic or recognize the greatness of America and the exceptionalism enough to want to protect it all. :eyes

The more I hear this sort of crap, the more I shake my head.


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