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PostPosted: 12/02/12 9:21 am • # 1 
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The answer to the conclusionary question is "NO!" ~ for me, the factoids that I bolded/emphasized below are very interesting ~ there are "live links" to more/corroborating info in the original ~ Sooz

Fox News Jumps the Shark by Calling Their Own Viewers Socialists
By: Jason Easley December 1st, 2012

Fox News completely jumped the shark today by calling anyone who wants Social Security and Medicare a socialist, and never realizing that they were attacking their own audience.

Here is the video from Media Matters: [Sooz comment: video accessible via the end link]

John Tamny of Forbes somehow turned a question about the budget into an unintentional attack on the viewers of Fox News. Tamny said, “Well, the tax increase is ridiculous. Because we don’t have a tax problem, revenue problem, we have a spending problem. And when you look at entitlements, I think they’re all an abomination. I don’t think any of them should exist. This is something that should be done elsewhere. But we did make these promises, so the idea should be not entitlements, but to basically say those nearing retirement age are going to be made whole. But for those of you who are not congenitally socialist, who actually want to control your retirement, you can opt out of these various programs. You don’t have to participate in Medicare or Social Security, and that’s how you cut entitlements without cutting off the people nearing retirement.”

Republicans are always talking about keeping Social Security and Medicare in place for those who are “nearing” retirement age, but they never define exactly what they mean by nearing. Do they mean people who are one year from retirement age will be covered, or those who are 10 years away from retirement age? This is a critical question because nearly half of Baby Boomers have not saved for retirement.

Speaking of those Baby Boomers, a lot of them watch Fox News. The average age for a Fox News viewer is 65. Those over age 55 are Fox News’s largest age group. According to a Pew study, the largest segment of Fox News viewers by income (33%) make less than $30,000 a year.

Thus, Fox News called the majority of their viewers socialists for wanting/need to take part in Social Security and Medicare.

Are Fox News viewers bright enough to understand that they are the socialists that Tamny was talking about?

http://www.politicususa.com/fox-news-jumps-shark-calling-viewers-socialists.html


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 10:31 am • # 2 
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A little re-arranging and bolding will give you the answer


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Are Fox News viewers bright enough?


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The average age for a Fox News viewer is 65. Those over age 55 are Fox News’s largest age group. According to a Pew study, the largest segment of Fox News viewers by income (33%) make less than $30,000 a year.


Clearly, they are not.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 1:32 pm • # 3 
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This is a critical question because nearly half of Baby Boomers have not saved for retirement.

Actually they have if they've paid into the system, haven't they?


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 3:38 pm • # 4 
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You're talking "entitlement" for people who "want stuff" now. Moochers. Leeches.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 3:55 pm • # 5 
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Maybe I missed something... I'm being serious for a change.
Would SS be an "entitlement" if folks get SS from their own contributions?


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 4:01 pm • # 6 
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The most important examples of entitlement programs at the federal level in the United States would include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, most Veterans' Administration programs, federal employee and military retirement plans, unemployment compensation, food stamps, and agricultural price support programs.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 4:09 pm • # 7 
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Gee, aren't they generous, then. One is entitled to get one's contributions back.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 5:15 pm • # 8 
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This is a critical question because nearly half of Baby Boomers have not saved for retirement.

Actually they have if they've paid into the system, haven't they?


Oskar... if you've been following the news - Bill C38 and C45 in tandem rearrange how CPP and OAS is funded, managed and disbursed. Eventually... it won't matter if you put money into the system - the CONservatives are seeing to it that you won't benefit by the time you are ready to retire. As you know, they've raised the age threshold for CPP to 67 from 65. They're changing the funding for Old Age Security and planning to do away with GAINS.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 5:20 pm • # 9 
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I'm aware of it.
ABC is coming next election.
The PCs ended up with 2 seats in parliament post-Mulroney. I'm hoping for zero seats for the CONs next election.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 5:40 pm • # 10 
I'm hoping for RCMP raids on their headquarters, and it may be coming soon.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 5:59 pm • # 11 
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is abc anything but conservatives, or are you starting your own political party?


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 6:02 pm • # 12 
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is abc anything but conservatives

Yep.
Worked wonders in Newfoundland a while back.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 6:18 pm • # 13 
We're on a multi-pronged approach at CRUSH. On the one hand, as we're encouraging ABC, we're also:

- Targeting email and print mail to CONservative MPs in an effort to cleave open some cracks that are appearing in the party
- Targeting email and print mail to Liberal, NDP and Green MPs encouraging open cooperation between the parties and candidates in their local ridings
- Targeting email and print mail to over 300 media email addresses with news stories that are not making it to the mainstream press

We have over 8,000 members along with several hundred ancillary and associated groups conducting these campaigns. Some of these groups include The Council of Canadians and LeadNow.


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PostPosted: 12/02/12 6:26 pm • # 14 
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- Targeting email and print mail to Liberal, NDP and Green MPs encouraging open cooperation between the parties and candidates in their local ridings

That one's crucial.
Target the parties themselves as well. If they don't seriously look at an ABC strategy then they're enabling the CONs.


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 2:28 pm • # 15 
That's exactly the point we're making.

The way I see it, if we successfully encourage an "ABC" vote, sow division in the CONservative party while encouraging cooperation among the opposition parties - the only thing that'll have to be worked out among them is who sits where in the House of Commons. :)


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 2:42 pm • # 16 
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The opposition parties can easily find compromises. The differences in phisophies are minor and consist mostly on emphasis rather than on content.
The question is whether they're wise enough and mature enough to proceed.


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 2:51 pm • # 17 
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What is an "ABC vote"?

Sooz


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 2:55 pm • # 18 
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Anyone But Conservative


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 2:57 pm • # 19 
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LOVE THAT! ~ thanks, oskar ~

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PostPosted: 12/03/12 3:00 pm • # 20 
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Thank Danny Williams, former Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador - a Progressive Conservative who kicked the CONs out of office in his province. Some of them got back in after he retired from politics.


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 4:29 pm • # 21 
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Some of them got back in after he retired from politics.


Yeah... they're like flies on shit.


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PostPosted: 12/03/12 4:35 pm • # 22 
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Are you sure they're the flies?


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