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PostPosted: 01/07/12 11:35 am • # 1 
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he is the only candidate i am aware of that has this issue exactly right (IMO):



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PostPosted: 01/07/12 12:29 pm • # 2 
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Now that's an ad with a strong impact... and it's almost 100% correct.


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 12:32 pm • # 3 
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That's a powerful ad.  It hits obama where it hurts--not on stuff that doesn't make sense, but on real life mistakes he's made and promises he's broken. 


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 1:18 pm • # 4 
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Excellent description of what's wrong with our assessment of what is self defense and what is wasting lives and money trying to dictate to other nations what we think they ought to do.....OR ELSE


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 1:22 pm • # 5 
He makes a good point, however:

1) Obama is already in the process of "drawing down" US troops from around the world, so he's already blunted Paul's message.

2) The people who are predisposed to supporting Obama in the next election are likely to do so despite US troops being stationed in other countries.

3) The people who are predisposed to not supporting Obama are most likely pro-military and already approve of US troops being stationed all around the world.

Obama just has to do what Stephen Harper did here in Canada... convince the independents that they don't care about these matters - they only care about jobs and the economy.


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 1:55 pm • # 6 
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I did agree with a lot of what Paul said regarding the Iraq war.

I'd be curious to know how he would have responded to 9/11.


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 6:54 pm • # 7 
When I lived in Texas all those years I really was a fan of Pauls but he didn't seem to be as extreme back then as he has been the past 4 years or else I just didn't notice it.  Living in Texas and having Bush as Governor was enough to make a person not notice much else though.


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PostPosted: 01/07/12 8:18 pm • # 8 
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I can see a lot of Ron Paul's beliefs and policies being attractive - until you think them through to their end result.


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PostPosted: 01/08/12 6:05 am • # 9 
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jimwilliam wrote:
I can see a lot of Ron Paul's beliefs and policies being attractive - until you think them through to their end result.

Exactly, jim! ~ there's a big streak of flat-out crazy underpinning much of Ron Paul's belief set ~

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PostPosted: 01/08/12 1:18 pm • # 10 
The Venn of Paul

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If you have been following this election cycle, you know that the MSM has no idea of what to make of Anti-War Libertarian Republican congressman Ron Paul. They alternate ignoring and/or mocking him, despite being the only intellectually consistent person in the race.

Mother Jones attempts a taxonomy of libertarian thought in order to figure out where Ron Paul fits into the political firmament in The Venn of Ron Paul and Other Mysteries of Libertarianism Explained.


http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/01/the-venn-of-paul/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Picture%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail



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PostPosted: 01/08/12 1:33 pm • # 12 
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The dangerous side of Paul are the things that he believes but doesn't say.


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PostPosted: 01/08/12 1:38 pm • # 13 
I think we have a prime minister who can be seen in the same light.


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PostPosted: 01/08/12 2:31 pm • # 14 
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That's a given.


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PostPosted: 01/09/12 4:08 am • # 15 
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The main reason I dislike Ron Paul-just like the other R candidates, he really has NO CLUE what it is to be uninsured in the USA. And every one of them has made "repeal Obamacare" a top priority.


Ron Paul told a town hall audience in New Hampshire that uninsured Americans should rely on charity for health care and said the modern health system “is overly corporate and not much better than a socialized healthcare system.â€



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PostPosted: 01/09/12 4:19 am • # 16 
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But as Abramovitch notes, Snyder, a volunteer strategist who eventually became a campaign manager for Paul's presidential bid, fell ill of pneumonia during the campaign. Snyder did not have health insurance, like the hypothetical example given by CNN's Wolf Blitzer, and stacked up $400,000 in medical bills. On June 26, 2008, exactly two weeks after Paul ended his bid for the presidency, Synder passed away due to complications from his pneumonia. Synder's family could not pay the bills left by Snyder, so friends set up an online campaign to raise the money for Synder's procedures.

Snyder experienced Paul's world of free market health care, a peculiar system that distinguishes the United States as the only Western country that does not provide basic care to its citizens. A look back at the charity effort launched to save Snyder's life reveals a grim failure. Despite Paul's insistence that charity is the appropriate response to America's uninsured crisis, Snyder's friends raised $34,870.53, far short of the $400,000 necessary to pay off his bills. View a screen shot below (click to enlarge):


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/09/14/318633/ron-paul-campaign-manage-died-uninsured/



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PostPosted: 01/09/12 6:59 am • # 17 
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jimwilliam wrote:
I can see a lot of Ron Paul's beliefs and policies being attractive - until you think them through to their end result.

i only specified one.  what would be the "end result" of being non-interventionist, jim?


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PostPosted: 01/09/12 6:59 am • # 18 
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John59 wrote:
I did agree with a lot of what Paul said regarding the Iraq war.

I'd be curious to know how he would have responded to 9/11.

he has actually said what he would do.  he preferred to treat it as a law enforcement activity.  i agree with that approach 100%


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PostPosted: 01/09/12 7:01 am • # 19 
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just to let you know, where Paul and i differ significantly is on the role of "free markets". he seems to think that a country run by Corporations is perfectly acceptable. i don't.


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