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PostPosted: 01/27/12 3:04 am • # 1 
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I don't know what the big deal is and I agree with a few points that I've bolded.

Pajamas are on the rise. Across the land, according to the Wall Street Journal, teenagers have taken to wearing PJs all day, even in public—even to school! Apparel companies like Abercrombie & Fitch and American Eagle are cashing in on the trend, stocking their stores with leggings and sweatpants and other comfortable, flowy, elastic waistbanded apparel. Pajamas are even popping up in high fashion: Here's Sofia Coppola happily, gorgeously stepping outside during the day in Louis Vuitton pajamas, and here's designer Rachel Roy attending a movie premiere in her own brand of jammies. Last week Shopbop.com, a women's clothing site that tracks new “looks,â€



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PostPosted: 01/27/12 4:58 am • # 2 
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Sloppy dress = sloppy thinking and attitude, IMO.


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 11:02 am • # 3 
oskar576 wrote:
Sloppy dress = sloppy thinking and attitude, IMO.

You better hope not:  medical personnel have been wearing pjs (scrubs) for years--the best ones of course being the jade green very soft ones...they also double as comfy pjs....
  


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 11:55 am • # 4 
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Bit of a difference.


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 12:02 pm • # 5 
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Cannalee2 wrote:
oskar576 wrote:
Sloppy dress = sloppy thinking and attitude, IMO.

You better hope not:  medical personnel have been wearing pjs (scrubs) for years--the best ones of course being the jade green very soft ones...they also double as comfy pjs....
  
Good to see you posting again Cannalee!

Right on, sister! I don't see a difference really. Google allows PJ's at their offices and so far I can't see how it's hurt their productivity. Of course, one wouldn't want to see PJ's in a law office or factory (injury risk with loose clothing), but I don't see the harm in many places.

For instance, at my former job I couldn't wear jeans......even when I was cleaning. Instead I had the most uncomfortable uniform to clean in and had to wear "dress" pants or dresses/skirts in the office or the damn uniform. Here I can wear jeans whenever I want and I am so much more relaxed and enjoy my day. I do wear dress pants occassionally just because I want to........Image I wear capris in the summer with sandals. I probably wouldn't wear traditional PJ's with cartoon characters or other such things, but if they produce more tailored ones, I would. Too bad I can't go braless too. Image

  


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 12:05 pm • # 6 
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PS: oskar, PJ's don't have to be sloppy, just more relaxed. I wear loose dress pants with elastic waists. The only difference is that I don't buy them in the lingerie department and they have pockets. Image


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 1:22 pm • # 7 
I get totally disgusted when I see a person wearing flannel pj's in a store.  It's further disgusting for me when I see adults wearing flannel pj's moreso than teens but I don't like to see pj's in public.  I see people wearing scrubs all the time but the ones I see are not flannel and they don't look like pj's.  I don't want to see what people wear to bed wearing the same thing in stores.  The other day I was in a store and a man walked in wearing a house coat with no top of any kind under the housecoat but he did have a pair of jeans on underneath.  He looked gross and it was about 1 pm.   I see tweetie, the Simpsons, mickey mouse and the list goes on of all the pj's I see people wearing around town.  I don't like it and never will.  


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 1:33 pm • # 8 
Hmmmm.  If we define pajamas as what we sleep in, it could be worse.  If we wear what we sleep in to work or the store, hubby and I would go nude.  Image


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 1:53 pm • # 9 
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jeannept wrote:
Hmmmm.  If we define pajamas as what we sleep in, it could be worse.  If we wear what we sleep in to work or the store, hubby and I would go nude.  Image
Nothing more natural... except during blizzards and such. [img]/domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif[/img]

  


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jeannept wrote:
Hmmmm.  If we define pajamas as what we sleep in, it could be worse.  If we wear what we sleep in to work or the store, hubby and I would go nude.  Image

LOL, us too! I've often wondered, with my advanced age, how quickly I could get dressed if there was a fire. Image I'd probably have my undies on inside out and my top on backwards. Image  That did happen to me once, years ago. First hubby and I were at a hotel, not just nude but "busy" when the fire alarm went off. Not fun to dress in a panic.


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 2:20 pm • # 11 
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Dee wrote:
I get totally disgusted when I see a person wearing flannel pj's in a store.  It's further disgusting for me when I see adults wearing flannel pj's moreso than teens but I don't like to see pj's in public.  I see people wearing scrubs all the time but the ones I see are not flannel and they don't look like pj's.  I don't want to see what people wear to bed wearing the same thing in stores.  The other day I was in a store and a man walked in wearing a house coat with no top of any kind under the housecoat but he did have a pair of jeans on underneath.  He looked gross and it was about 1 pm.   I see tweetie, the Simpsons, mickey mouse and the list goes on of all the pj's I see people wearing around town.  I don't like it and never will.  
Oh, I totally agree with the decorated flannel thing.


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PostPosted: 01/27/12 6:09 pm • # 12 
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I think, overall, human beings spend waaayyy to much time, money and effort on how they look. Worth noting that some of the most vile people I've ever known looked like pages from a fashion magazine. (I'll admit the pants around the knees thing makes me giggle.)

I've worked in places that had dress codes that I thought were stupid. Are beige pants really the color choice you want for someone who spends the day cleaning kennels? LOL Is it really that important that I wear a skirt to a job where I sit in a cubicle and answer phones all day and *never come into contact with the public*? 

The other day I was in a store and a man walked in wearing a house coat with no top of any kind under the housecoat but he did have a pair of jeans on underneath.  He looked gross and it was about 1 pm. 

You should have seen some of the "outfits" I had to come up with when it was too painful to have fabric rubbing up against my surgical incision and how "gross" I looked because getting a shower was difficult.  

We may say "Don't judge a book by its cover".....but it seems we do. Since when is flannel or a pattern a crime?  

 


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 3:05 am • # 13 
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You have some great points Chaos! I had forgotten the time after my gall bladder surgery (pre-laser) and the tenderness of my incision that extended to my waist. I didn't wear jeans again for a long, long time.


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 4:40 am • # 14 
I've also been in situations where I couldn't wear jeans because of the tightness would hurt where I'd had surgery but I never ever resorted to wearing pj's in public. IMO, wearing pj's out in public is being so disrespectful.  I'm not saying one has to dress up to go out in public but don't wear bedclothes and there is no mistake pj's are bed clothes even though noone is suggesting it's a crime.  IMO, it's simply common courtesy and being respectful.


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 5:13 am • # 15 
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I still remember when girls wearing pant to school was a no-no. Gasp! Then jeans. OMG! Image Men not wearing full suits to all office jobs. I guess fashion trends will come (and go) whether we agree or not. Some will stick around and become the norm. Others will fade away, like  Ben Casey shirts, Nehru jackets (I LOVED those!), paisley prints (loved those too) or MC Hammer pants my kids wore .............


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 7:17 am • # 16 
I remember in the early 70's when we lived in Atlanta, Ga  I got sent home from work for wearing a dress that not only came slightly above my knee but also the hem was scalloped and not straight.  In addition the dress was bright orange.  It was actually a very pretty dress and I eventually did wear it again a couple years later and didn't get sent home that time.


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 7:44 am • # 17 
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Gotta agree to disagree with some of you. Looks and behavior are two different things in my mind, and I'd much rather encounter a polite person in PJ's than a witch in jeans. Image

I mean, what are we really talking about here? The choice of clothing fabric as an indicator of character? I can't make the leap to "disrespectful" towards me from how someone chooses to dress. There are plenty of non-PJ's I see walking around that make me cringe or giggle, but I don't take it personally. Same for tattoos or nose rings or whatever. I'd rather see PJ's than someone trying to squeeze into clothes that are 4 sizes too small, or butt cracks hanging out. 

Heck- there are still people today who consider a woman wearing pants to church as "disrespectful to God". I don't think God cares. 



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PostPosted: 01/28/12 7:50 am • # 18 
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.......or some of these:

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 7:53 am • # 19 

Wearing Pajamas in Public


Being an etiquette editor, I receive many questions regarding semi-formal attire, debutante balls and what to wear for a certain celebration. I have never, however, been asked if it's proper to wear pajamas to a dinner party. What I have been asked, frequently actually, is WHY are people wearing their pajamas to the mall, the post office, school and other public areas. Also, why are they donning their bunny slippers like it's the newest shoe fashion?

I know many people leave the gym in sweats or yoga pants and quickly run a few errands before going home to shower and change. We all get that. Chiseling time to workout and capitalizing on the 24hourse we all have makes wearing workout clothes acceptable when pressed for time. But let's make this perfectly clear…sweats and yoga attire are not pajamas. Yes, we may sleep in our sweats but rolling out of bed and wearing what you slept in out in public is not an approved etiquette-friendly decision.

Broken down, it's a fashion code you are trampling all over. Not just fashion but a productivity code also.

Bottom line is you are what you wear. If you're opting for pajamas, whether in class or the grocery store, you are dressed schlumpy. If that's how you're dressed, it's how you're going to act and be. Deadlines are not met when you look and dress lazy. Productivity is questionable when your focus is on relaxed comfort. Casual Friday is a perfect example on how productivity tends to go down when the dress code goes slack. To reverse that one – when the dress code goes slack, so does productivity.

It's not just about self-respect; it's about respecting those around you. If you have little regard for those around you, wear pajamas and slippers and announce to the world you don't care if you're offending, you're going to wear what you want.

Put in perspective, if you are in your backyard enjoying coffee or getting the mail, you are on your private property and can categorically wear what you are comfortable wearing. Etiquette would dictate that you wear a robe with jammies and slippers to exit your front door and get the mail. For a quick run to get the morning paper that's on the front walk, we all get the desire to grab it and enjoy it in the comfort of your own home, and yes in our pajamas.

It's the public areas, where you are walking around in something others changed out of because they slept in them, that you are compromising your image and their comfort. If you are going to get out of bed and change into clean, unslept in pajamas, that may be more hygienic. But unless you wear a sign that says “These are clean, the slept in ones I changed out ofâ€


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 9:28 am • # 20 
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"Fashion code"....lmao....good grief! Image Sorry...but bella the "expert" sounds like a real snob[/i] to me. And that's based on what she wrote, not what she wears. I bet she looked all snazzy and professional while she was writing words that crap all over people she's never met who don't live up to her "standards". Sheesh!

I guess I just don't judge people based on looks to the extent that others do. Bigotry is bigotry-doesn't matter if it's about race, religion, politics...or style, IMO. 










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PostPosted: 01/28/12 9:57 am • # 21 
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If Pres. Obama showed up to address the Senate wearing his PJs you'd be all over him, Chaos


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 12:01 pm • # 22 
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If Pres. Obama showed up to address the Senate wearing his PJs you'd be all over him, Chaos
Really? Glad I have you to tell me what I'd think and when.Image Fact, its, I'd rather have an Obama POTUS in PJ's than ANY Republican in a suit and tie. LOL! 

If an employer chooses to have a dress code, that's their right-though I do think many of them are stupid and serve no purpose at all.   If an employer chooses not to have a dress code, good for them. That tells me they care more about the quality of the employee than the appearance[/i] of quality. When I stop meeting well-dressed incompetent idiots, I may have a reason to change my position. But I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.  

In a supposedly free country people can wear what they want in public, including PJ's, sweats, whatever. Big deal. I care about who people are and how they treat me...not what they look like.  


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 12:22 pm • # 23 
From my observation about the business community those who realize that professional appearances matter will continue to dress so.  Those who think it'd be perfectly fine in trying to sell a corporation a  product and shows up in jeans/pj's will do so and IMO, won't make a sale. I worked in the business world some 48 years. The last 40 working in real estate and closing residential and commercial real estate loans I never wore anything except a business suit in all these years.  Two of my clients in the commercial loans were Target and Home Depot. I closed their loans for many years and clear up until the year I retired.  I think had I showed up in pj's to close the very first loans, I'd have never closed another one for them.  This is where I think the term "respect" comes in.  I have enough respect for businesses to not dress like a slob nor dress like I just got out of bed and only managed to maybe comb my hair.  I also had enough respect for my employers to act/dress professional.  Maybe that's just a generation thing.


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 1:36 pm • # 24 
And then there are those of us who earn a little on the side working from home. It doesn't pay much but the commute is a breeze: pj's > bathrobe > coffee > computer.


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PostPosted: 01/28/12 1:54 pm • # 25 
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 I think had I showed up in pj's to close the very first loans, I'd have never closed another one for them.

If they had showed up in PJ's ready to sign on the dotted line- would you have walked out and refused their business? Just curious.




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