"The top states that want to secede also received the most federal tax dollars. (The exception is petition leader Texas, but they have their own reasons besides Obama’s win for believing in their own independence.) By the 2010 numbers, Mississippi ($2.47) and Alabama ($2.03) both took in twice as much federal tax money as they paid. South Carolina was just eight cents behind at $1.92. According to a 2006 Tax Foundation study, Louisiana took in $1.45 for every dollar. Tennessee took in a $1.30. Arkansas took in a $1.47, and Oklahoma took in a $1.48 for every federal tax dollar they paid.

The fiscally conservative House Republicans should be jumping for joy at the prospect of cutting some of the most dependent victims who are mooching off federal dollars from the budget.

The problem is that the majority of the top petitioning states are the base of the Republican Party. If these freeloading red states were allowed to secede, not only would America’s deficit issues be resolved, but the Republican Party would never win another national election on their own."

http://www.politicususa.com/screw-negot ... ecede.html

They can elect Donald Chump president, too.

You can tell he's struggling with the loss.

Secession petitions now filed for all 50 states

Petitions signed by hundreds of thousands of Americans seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the union have now been filed for all 50 states on the White House website.

The secession petition push began last week on the site's We The People section after a Slidell, La., man filed a petition on Nov. 7 to allow Louisiana to secede. Residents from other states followed suit.

As of Wednesday afternoon, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and Texas—all states that voted for former Gov. Mitt Romney—as well as Florida each had accumulated more than 25,000 signatures, the threshold needed to trigger an official response from the Obama administration. Collectively, the secession petitions now have more than 700,000 digital signatures.

Let Louisiana secede and give folks 2 weeks to relocate.

WOW! 700,000 out of 312 million?

I read something that made me cheer this morning ~ Austin, the capital of Texas, has filed a petition to secede from ... TEXAS! ~ I absolutely positively LOVE that!

Sooz

It was always just a matter of time ~ ~ there are some "live links" to more/corroborating info in the original ~ Sooz

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 05:14 PM CST
Radical right joins in secession frenzy
White nationalists, neo-Nazis and Klan sympathizers are now casting their lot with disgruntled conservatives
By Mark Potok, Southern Poverty Law Center

This article was originally published by The Southern Poverty Law Center.

Hundreds of thousands of disgruntled conservatives, still smarting from the re-election of President Obama last week, are signing petitions to allow more than 30 states to secede from the United States — and they are being joined by a motley collection of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and Klan sympathizers.

As of midday today, eight of the petitions, which are being posted on a government website set up to encourage citizen participation, have crossed the threshold of 25,000 signatures required to prompt a guaranteed official reply from the White House. (The states are Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas, the state with the most signers.) But the petitions carry no legal weight at all, and almost no one anywhere on the political spectrum expects them to result in anything more than a collective blowing off of right-wing steam.

Still, that hasn’t stopped the denizens of Stormfront, a huge white nationalist Web forum run by a former Alabama Klan leader, from enthusiastically embracing the cause. Starting last Saturday, a large number of comment threads began appearing on the site that encouraged the radical right to join in on the fun.

Of course, the discourse on the forum has that special Stormfront kind of feel — which is to say, the underlying concern of most participants there is how to create a country, or perhaps countries, that is all, or at least mostly, white.

“We would be better off using all of our strength to secede 80% white states,” wrote “MattwhiteAmerica” in one of more than a dozen threads discussing secession. “A state like Texas, LA, MISS, AL, CA etc are going to need a good old fashion [sic] war to remove the non-whites. … I’m saying this as most non-whites are socialists and takers. We won’t get a good constitution without a solid white majority.”

“We need to form a WHITE republic,” MattwhiteAmerica added a little later. “One that is for whites by whites!”

Responded “Buffalo”: “I have a feeling a lot if not most of the coloreds would be more than willing to leave a state that actually seceded. I have a feeling they would be smart enough to know that it would be either leave on your own or your [sic] going to be removed by whatever means needed.”

One unexpected dissent came from “Britannic Nationalist,” a foreigner. “Either you’re a country or you’re not,” the poster wrote. “Either all the States should be completely independent, or they should all be a single country. … Will what is now the USA just turn into a land mass of warring factions, states and peoples?”

Most of those posting at Stormfront seemed to realize that they were engaging in a pipe dream. But a few had definite hopes. “Once the cumulative secession petition count exceeds one million then Obama will be very worried,” wrote “Disappointed American.” “One million pissed off armed Americans, coupled with the [antigovernment group] Oathkeepers 3%, can defeat the military. At 2 million signatures, it’s basically a certainty at least one state will secede.”

Well, maybe. Of course, if that’s true, it’s just as likely that some of the other petitions at the government’s We the People website will eventually win their causes, too — causes like “Not Allow The FDA To Regulate Premium Cigars,” “outlaw offending prophets of major religions,” “Restore Fairness And Objectivity To Our Media,” and even “Peacefully grant the city of Austin Texas to withdraw from the state of Texas & remain part of the United States.”

And then there were two direct responses to the secession petitions: “Force all states to pay their portion of the national debt before they can secede from the union” and “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.” Which is just the kind of thing Stormfronters might actually like.

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/14/radical_right_joins_in_secession_frenzy/

I don't want to brag about my connections to the WH but someone in the know told me that the WH is already feverishly working on a response to the petitions.
It's a one word response so far: Denied!
Big discussions if this should be followed with "Nutjobs! or Ass wipes! or something similar.
Remember, you heard it here first!

They need to relax, have a beer and order some Chinese takeout from Fook Yoo's.

Elitist!
Comfort food down at The Greasy Spoon is what they are used to.

From "Cracker" Barrel?

Since they are on-line petitions, with no way of verifying if the signatory is even from the particular state I'd suspect its also a case of vote early and often. That probably means the "700,000" is probably vastly overstated. Still, I suppose its possible the US does have that many delusional idiots.

A couple weeks ago, I worked on organizing a directed email campaign in coordination with several progressive action groups. We sent every sitting MP over 70,000 emails in 2 hours. Without getting into details, we got results and the government is delaying making decisions on the issue we spoke out about. Never underestimate the power of the lateral communication that the internet represents. With the appropriate use of the tools we have at our fingertips, we're getting results. These petitions to secede are the right wing's attempt to co-opt the medium.

What I would like to see the President do is to hold a press conference. Print all the petitions out. And then burn them on camera. Then tell those that want to secede, they are more than welcome to move to another country of their chosing. And that we have no time for this nonsense. And just walk away from the podium!

the monster wrote:

What I would like to see the President do is to hold a press conference. Print all the petitions out. And then burn them on camera. Then tell those that want to secede, they are more than welcome to move to another country of their chosing. And that we have no time for this nonsense. And just walk away from the podium!

Wouldn't that give them more acknowledgement than they deserve.

Do you play poker? See if it were me, I'd call their bluff. My response would be: "Granted."

Then I'd enjoy the show watching them squirm as they back-peddle and try to explain why they won't be leaving afterall...

I've read if a petition with 25k signatures on it must be reviewed by the WH. Whether the WH wants to or not, they have to acknowledge it. I can't think of a better way than for the Pres to acknowledge it other than calling them cowards and making an antiAmerican move.

I've read if a petition with 25k signatures on it must be reviewed by the WH. Whether the WH wants to or not,

I believe that's simply current White House policy rather than any legal requirement.

Of course, I didn't sign a petition for any state to secede from the union, so I'm not exactly sure why I received the response. However, I did sign a White House petition to deport everyone who signed a petition to withdraw their state from the United States. So they probably just sent this response to everyone on their mailing list.

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Petition Response: Our States Remain United

By Jon Carson, Director of the Office of Public Engagement

Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.

In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.

But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.

Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."

Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.

So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.

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