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PostPosted: 01/11/13 3:07 pm • # 1 
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I haven't gotten one in years. This year seems to be a banner one for the flu, which makes me wonder. Are the shots really doing any good or are they creating a better, stronger virus that can emerge the following year? Think about it. There are people who get the flu even if they've had the shot. Those little buggies are "superbugs" already. We know the flu constantly mutates and evolves.

The reason I'm asking is that last year they had people so afraid, that the numbers who got the shot almost doubled here. They had dozens of "vaccine stations" around the city with extended days/hours. Maybe that's why this year is so bad.

Maybe we are creating the very monster we have been told to fear?

BTW, I haven't had the flu for years either (touch wood), but I am NOT bragging :b (hear that flu bug? :angry )

Just had a contractor on Monday talking about the shot and he did the same bragging about no shot, no flu and never gets sick. By Tuesday night he was flat on his back with the flu.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 3:34 pm • # 2 
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No.
Never have.
Don't intend to.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 3:39 pm • # 3 
Yes
Always have
Will continue to get them


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 3:59 pm • # 4 
I never have gotten it.

I got a week long cold, not what I would call the flu, but still felt like death. I think I got it from my husband's co-workers. He got the flu shot and did not get sick, even though he was around it 24/7.

I normally don't get sick, this was only the 3rd illness in 8.5 years, that includes any type of cold/vomit issue.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 4:17 pm • # 5 
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I've already had my annual 1-3 day cold/flu/whatever-bug-it-is.
Now I'm good for another year.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 4:38 pm • # 6 
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The last time I got a flu shot was over 20 years ago ~ my reaction to it was the sickest I've ever been for several days ~ apparently lucky me was part of the something like 0.000001% that reacts to the serum ~ have not gotten another once since and have no plans to do so in the future, even tho my mother regularly reminds me to "get a flu shot!" ~

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PostPosted: 01/11/13 4:55 pm • # 7 
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I've never gotten a flu shot and don't plan on getting one this year. But then, I don't go out much and only see the dogs - I'm more likely to pick up fleas than flu.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 5:24 pm • # 8 
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PostPosted: 01/11/13 6:44 pm • # 9 
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oskar576 wrote:
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Gotta collar - taken care of.


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 7:00 pm • # 10 
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laffinalltheway wrote:
oskar576 wrote:
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Gotta collar - taken care of.


Kinky. ;)


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PostPosted: 01/11/13 8:51 pm • # 11 
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So, does anyone have an opinion on whether "we/they" have created the monster flu bug?

That was the actual reason for my post.....lol.

I read a blurb earlier today that more children are dying this year from the flu. I somehow feel we are on our way to another 1918, but one of our own making. :(

Is it a big pharma conspiracy to rake in money? (sigh, I don't like being conspiracy nut...... :angry ) Does the medical industry know more than they tell us about the mutation/evolution of the flu virus and the part that vaccines play in that? Is it similar to the MSRA bacteria scenario?

Screw it, we're all doomed. :\'(


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 12:03 pm • # 12 
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i don't do flu shots.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 12:58 pm • # 13 
I do flu shots--religiously since they've come out with the attenuated ones. I also cajole nag, bribe etc. all my grandkids and their gfs to get them and let them know when the free clinic for flu shots is on...I have found that they not only help in preventing a "hard" case of flu but seem to bolster general immunity....

That said, I remember back in 1973 my then husband pharmacist flat forbade (and that is the word, like in forbid) me to get the flu vaccine against the supposed upcomimg swine flu epidemic that year--he would not explain why he was so adamantly against my getting that particular shot, but months later as I stood by the bedsides of several young adults my age who were on ventilators presenting with some of the first cases of Guillian Barre syndrome and there was "talk" of the syndrome being related to the flu shots of that year (similar to the "talk" of autism being related to baby immunizations) I wondered....

I have also noticed a propensity of older adults who get both the flu shot and pneumonia shots to become very ill with pneumonia like symptoms: don't know why, and it is not an issue discussed particularly, just something I've noticed: I don't do both, but so far have opted for just the flu shot.

As for flu shot actually helping to create a "superbug" flu virus: yeah, I think that is a very plausible idea...


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 2:38 pm • # 14 
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My Doctor tells me to get them so I get them. I haven't had a bad case of flu for years.

As to them helping to create a "super-bug" I'm sceptical.

Immunisations work in a quite different way to general antibiotics in that they are tailored to deal with a very specific organism - not just the flu virus, but the particular flu virus. And, typically they work by building your bodies defences against that virus, not by killing it off in the way that antibiotics kill off bacteria. So the evolutionary implications are quite different.

Besides, the flu virus was mutating and creating new strains well before there were immunisations and, as can be seen by the responses in this thread, there are plenty of places any particular one can find a safe haven in any case...


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 4:51 pm • # 15 
oskar576 wrote:
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Have you ever tried shooting a flea? The only thing more difficult would be shooting a flu.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 5:54 pm • # 17 
What cattleman said.

This weekend 2 mothers at the hospital with the flu have been isolated from their babies. The flu can kill newborns.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 8:35 pm • # 18 
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I have a doctor's appointment on Monday. Now I'm wondering if I should wear a surgical mask to avoid germ-y people.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 8:41 pm • # 19 
Alot of the nurses at the hospital sound just like me. Very bronchial. That is going around, too, and it's not the flu and it's not going away easily. A nurse my age said she's had this since Christmas Day. I think I started on New Year's Day. The z pak didn't touch it.

Wear your mask.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 8:59 pm • # 20 
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I don't buy the notion that the flu is the result of some drug-comapny conspiracy to make us sick for profit. I can't accept the assumptions that would have to underly that idea.

I did get the flu shot the last couple of years. Last winter no flu, this winter something that was sort of like the flu, but not. Next year I'm dfinitely getting the pneumonia shot.


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PostPosted: 01/12/13 10:01 pm • # 21 
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always get a flu shot and have the pneumonia shot. About ten years ago I started after my second bout of pneumonia. Been lucky and not had the flu since.

This year I did get a cold before thanksgiving. Turned into bad bronchitis and a sinus infection. Three antibiotics later its finally gone. it really made me sick and then exhausted. Lasted about 6 weeks.


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PostPosted: 01/13/13 12:51 am • # 22 
I have never taken a flu shot nor a pneumonia shot do I ever intend to. I don't get sick. I haven't had a cold in over 20 years. I drink lots of orange juice and I do take Airborne regularly and have done this for many years now. From what I hear around this area the type of flu that is going around the flu shot would not prevent anyway.


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PostPosted: 01/13/13 8:35 am • # 23 
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grampatom wrote:
I don't buy the notion that the flu is the result of some drug-comapny conspiracy to make us sick for profit. I can't accept the assumptions that would have to underly that idea.

I did get the flu shot the last couple of years. Last winter no flu, this winter something that was sort of like the flu, but not. Next year I'm dfinitely getting the pneumonia shot.


If you don't think they want to make us sick, fine. Please explain all the current drugs involved in lawsuits that have, in many instances, cause death.

The Pharmas at one time were honorable companies, run by dedicated medical research scientists who had our well being in mind. They are now money making factories, run by businessmen who have their pocket to line.


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PostPosted: 01/13/13 8:48 am • # 24 
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I don't think the pharmas set out to make anybody sick. It would cost money to do that.
They simply don't give a shyte whether they do or not as long as the profits are there.


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