It was only a matter of time ~ there's also a group that's building a "walled and gated community" in Idaho ~ I'll post that next ~ ~ there are "live links" to more/corroborating info in original ~ Sooz

Monday, Jan 14, 2013 10:54 PM UTC
Glenn Beck wants to build an Ayn Rand-inspired utopia
And a renegade sect of Silicon Valley libertarians are building a tax-free floating island! VIDEO
By Katie Mcdonough

World famous denim entrepreneur Glenn Beck doesn’t just manufacture jeans. He manufactures dreams. American dreams!

And what’s he cooking up in that dream factory right now? Planned community-theme park hybrids, that’s what. Beck’s “Independence, USA” is a community built on the “principles of the free market” where families can “find happiness, inspiration, courage and hope.”

According to Beck’s website:


Don’t pack your boxes just yet. If living beyond the reach of the IRS is appealing but you’re more of the seafaring type, another option awaits.

Blueseed, a start-up incubator and business center, has raised $300,000 to build a man-made libertarian paradise where renegade Silicon Valley types can float along, unencumbered by taxes and HB-1 work visas.

As reported by BetaBeat:


You may want to pre-pay your rent into escrow, since the Future Cities project — a similar “utopia” with a libertarian flare — was shut down in October 2012.

Still undecided about where to move? You can watch Beck make his sales pitch below. [Sooz comment: clip accessible via the end link]

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/glenn_beck_wants_to_build_an_ayn_rand_inspired_utopia/

Another oxymoron: Ayn Rand-inspired utopia

"The Citadel" sounds just peachy, no? ~ ~ "live links" to more/corroborating info in original ~ Sooz

Gun Nuts to Build 2,000 Acre Citadel in Idaho’s American Redoubt
By: Hrafnkell HaraldssonJan. 13th, 2013

We've all heard of gated communities. We’ve all heard about the Second Amendment. Have you ever wondered what happens when you put the two together? How about a fortified community? That’s the latest right-wing tactic.

CNS News reports that, ”A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.”

Notice the keywords used:

*American exceptionalism
*armed community
*liberty

Yes, the worst elements of the Second and Tenth Amendments have come together in the creation of a monstrous American afterbirth.

According to CNS,


By contrast, the mound of the biblical city of Megiddo, in Israel, covers some 15 acres, and early Roman London was about 350 acres. Central Park is 843 acres.

We are not talking about a small community. If each family is 3 people, a minimum estimate, we are talking about a town of from 10-20,000 people. You know these people intend to breed, because they see themselves as the last best hope of White America.

The Citadel site explains their concept in the following terms:

“The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

*Patriotism
*Pride in American Exceptionalism
*Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
*Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse."


Where will this paradise on earth be located? In the mountains of Idaho, of course, the bastion of America’s survivalist subculture – “the American redoubt.”


What is amusing is the group’s description of what they embrace and consequently, what they abhor.


Jefferson’s rightful liberty apparently demands that, “Residents should also agree that being ‘prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures.’”

And of course, we all know how Jefferson felt about liberals:


I’m just throwing this out there, but I am thinking the group missed a few American history classes. Or maybe the only book on Jefferson they have read is David Barton’s counter-history, The Jefferson Lies. Just sayin’.

Liberalism, of course, is all about liberty. Liberty for all, not just a few who embrace a particular ideology, but those of all ideologies and religions. Citadel misses that important point entirely, as a group of gun-loving, government-hating, right-wing extremists who want to hide from an increasingly modern and diverse world.

Instead of liberty for all, Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community “will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

In other words, gun down all those icky people who are different from you. Not that icky people are likely to be getting in, as “the community will be protected by a perimeter wall that will be inaccessible to ‘tourists.’ Each neighborhood within the community will have lower walls, dividing the town into defensible sections.”

They can’t build a Great Wall around America’s borders, so they’re going to build them around their Citadel, complete with towers: a medieval fortified city, though they call it castle.

I guess we can rest assured they won’t be asking for government assistance. They have created their own firearms company after all, to employ the first wave of pioneers (though gun sales tell us they’ll be well-armed when they arrive). They figure tourism will take care of the rest, as Americans travel to see the freaks in the American redoubt in their natural habitat.

http://www.politicususa.com/gun-nuts-build-2000-acre-citadel-idahos-american-redoubt.html

At least we'll know where there are a lot of gun nuts. Now, is this "citadel" designed to keep people out or to keep people in?

Idaho?
I'd have thought Uganda.

Who knows... maybe some guru there will encourage them to drink some kool-aid.

These sound suspiciously like communes with a couple of perverted twists. One is a theme park, the other an armed fortress... Damn Communists!

I'm guessing that the State of Idaho will have something to say about a new little armed and fortified city-state being established there. If it does get going, we'll see news about gun justice going on inside those walls, when the drunks and misfits, who typically talk about about setting up ideolocically pure dystopias like this, actually try living with each other. Too bad about the kids.

Glenn beck is such a loser. He'll be in prison for fraud and grand larceny before he gets his utopia set up.

Idaho is known for these kinds of 'encampments'.

It seems like setting up such a thing is a kind of de facto secession. I presume they will be paying their state and federal taxes.

So who gets to be dictator?
Can't be Adolph.
He's dead.
Or is it to be Communism inside the walls and laissez-faire capitalism outside the walls?

I notice on the little map that the "farmer's market" is just inside the "main gate." I also notice there is no mention of where they intend to grow their own food, or a place where it would be healthy for them to raise livestock.

I see schools, but no churches or hospitals. Are they expecting the surrounding peasants to repair their cars, give them medical treatment, handle law enforcement (especially when it would mean that armed individuals would have to enter the "sacred city), trade with them for meat and milk?

Where will they go to "worship" and what will they be worshiping?

People who build walls to prevent the NOS from being granted access to their Nirvana, it seems to me, are also building their own prisons.

They may just be building their own asylums, but it would seem to me they are no more safe than those who went to Jonestown. I can see the constant paranoia, the constant reinforcement of the concept that all outsiders are "jealous" of their "freedom" (within their locked and armed fortress) is likely to lead to some pretty strict codes of conduct. With limited diversity of thought, skills, interests, knowledge, and employment (What? The only place to work in the town, other than the school is a gun factory??????)

Are they nuts?

(rhetorical question)

I noticed this flaw, too. All medieval castles had their markets right outside the draw bridge etc.

But what do you mean by lack of church? It's the Allmighty Rifle which will be worshipped right there at the museum.

Are they nuts?

(rhetorical question)

Yes.

(non-rhetorical answer)

I kind of like the idea of these kind of people being locked-up before they hurt someone. That they are willing to do it themselves is a bonus.

So there won't be any property taxes. I wonder how they plan to build their roads, provide their water and sewer, police themselve, put out fires, etc. They couldn't rely on nearby communities since, in order to avoid property taxes, they would have find an unincoporated area to buy and then convince the State to incorporate them. If the area was already incorporated they - or at least the Citidel - would have to pay property taxes. If you rename property tax a lease payment is it still a tax?

We'll see what kind of "government" they come up with. Probably not democratic in any sense of the word. The way these things go, they will declare themselves sovereign and not subject to "ZOG". There will be confrontations with IRS and ATF and whatever form of child protection service agency Idaho still has. I hope this thing never gets off the ground. It's trouble from the get-go.

Let them go. Bye now!

If Beck is involved it's probably a scam.

i can't tell you how much easier i breathe reading stuff like this:

Liberalism, of course, is all about liberty. Liberty for all, not just a few who embrace a particular ideology, but those of all ideologies and religions. Citadel misses that important point entirely, as a group of gun-loving, government-hating, right-wing extremists who want to hide from an increasingly modern and diverse world.

Let's make sure all gated communities lock from the outside.

As a German I don't like to suggest watch towers around that place (ugly history and stuff) but a moat filled with alligators would look nice. And a government-run gift shop on the outside where the inmates villagers can shop for straightjackets once per week.

the last one was sued out of existence and turned into a holocaust museum.

Wonder how they'll get to their community without using public roads and/or air space?

Thinking "toll booth design and operations" as a new career.

You might want to think along the lines of a troll booth instead.