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PostPosted: 02/02/13 12:34 pm • # 1 
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McCain's temper and ability to hold/act on a grudge are both legendary ~ in my view, neither serves him [or the public] well ~ Sooz

Saturday, Feb 2, 2013 09:00 AM CST
John McCain’s sad, bitter twilight
The senator's contempt for Chuck Hagel in Thursday's confirmation hearing is all about the guy who nominated him.
By Steve Erickson, The American Prospect

This article originally appeared on The American Prospect.

“That one,” John McCain famously snarled in a presidential debate four years ago, referring to his opponent, who was a quarter of a century younger than McCain and who had been in the Senate 3 years to McCain’s 20. It’s difficult to imagine a better revelation of the McCain psyche than that moment, but if there is one, then it came yesterday at the meeting of the Senate Armed Services Committee, convened to consider the nomination of Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense. The McCain fury is something to behold, almost irresistible for how unvarnished it is in all its forms. In the instance of the 2008 debate, McCain’s dumbfounded antipathy had to do with facing an opponent he so clearly considered unworthy. In the instance of the hearing yesterday, McCain’s bitter blast was at somebody who once was among his closest friends, a former Vietnam warrior and fellow Republican of a similarly independent ilk who supported McCain’s first run for the presidency in 2000 against George W. Bush but then appeared to abandon the Arizona senator eight years later.

If all this suggests political differences born largely of personal dynamics and their breach, it’s because for McCain the two are interchangeable. At this moment, we should make the effort to remind ourselves of what’s commendable about McCain, an admiral’s son who could only live up to his father’s reputation by way of five years in a Hanoi jail, where he walked — or hobbled, given the crippling abuse he suffered at the hands of his captors — the walk of loyalty and didn’t just talk it. When offered freedom halfway through those five years, he refused to leave behind his fellow prisoners of war who had been there longer and were due their freedom first. It’s a story so formidable that 12 years ago Bush supporters resorted to suggesting McCain was a “Hanoi Candidate,” brainwashed in the manner of cinematic Manchurians. So let’s not question McCain’s courage, or a code that means as much to him as patriotism. In that initial presidential run, admiration for the man trumped what disagreements overly romantic voters like myself had when it came time to mark his name on our ballots (as I did in that year’s California primary).

In the time since, two things have happened to McCain. One was the Iraq War, the worst American foreign policy blunder of the post–World War II era, which McCain wholeheartedly supported from the beginning and about which he’s never intimated a second thought. The other was Barack Obama, electoral politics’ upstart lieutenant whose bid to become five-star general, bypassing stops along the way at captain, major and colonel, wasn’t just temerity to a man who waited his turn to be released from prison, but insubordination. Those two things converged yesterday in McCain’s prosecution of Hagel, no less sorry a spectacle on McCain’s part for the fact that Hagel handled it so unimpressively. Perhaps Hagel was startled, figuring his one-time compatriot would be tough but not vicious. If that’s the case, then he never knew McCain as well as he thought or hoped, because if he did then he would know that McCain is a man of grudges. In his memoir “Faith of My Fathers,” in which words like “gallantry” appear without embarrassment (and which no one has more earned the right to use), McCain himself acknowledges being the congenital hothead of legend who’s nearly come to blows with colleagues. Half a century later, he recalls every altercation with every Naval Academy classmate; as a child, rage sometimes drove him to hold his breath until he blacked out. No need to indulge in untrained psychotherapy from afar to surmise that the ability to nurse such a grudge may be what gets you through half a decade of cruel incarceration.

At any rate, what happened yesterday wasn’t about Hagel at all. It wasn’t even about the Iraq War’s 2007 “surge,” which McCain is desperate to justify because he can never justify the war itself, which finds Hagel moved to the right side of history while McCain remains stubbornly on the wrong. It’s about that junior senator from Illinois who crossed McCain early in some obscure backroom Senate deal no one can remember anymore, then denied McCain the presidency in no small part because Obama understood the folly of Iraq better than McCain can allow himself to. McCain’s personal honor in Hanoi was too hard won to be stained now by almost anything he does, including how he’s allowed temperament, pique and ego to steamroll the judgment and perspective that we hope all of our elected officers have, let alone presidents. But his political honor, not to mention whatever might once have recommended him to the presidency, has fallen victim to the way that Obama has gotten fatally under his skin. Even if this once-noble statesman should succeed in denying Hagel’s nomination as he denied Susan Rice’s prospects for Secretary of State (and even the most devout Hagel supporter would have to acknowledge that the Defense nominee’s performance before the Committee was often a shambles), McCain’s unrelenting obsession with the grievance that Obama has come to represent to him is the saddest legacy in memory. The very fact of Obama and all things Obamic has turned McCain into something toxic, maybe even to himself.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/02/the_bitter_twilight_of_john_mccain_partner/


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PostPosted: 02/02/13 3:40 pm • # 2 
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it really is sad. i admired him up until the Iraq War.


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PostPosted: 02/03/13 8:31 am • # 3 
I've never admired him. So he was a POW in Vietnam... so were a lot of others who aren't assholes with a mean and violent streak. I think John McCain uses his Hanoi Hilton experience as an excuse to cover for his often horrible behaviour.


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Ditto.
The Bush-Rove slander machine didn't help, either.


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PostPosted: 02/03/13 8:41 am • # 5 
"bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran... snicker snicker..."

I thought he was a fool then and my impression of him was confirmed when he selected that witch from Alaska to run with him.


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Sidartha wrote:
I've never admired him. So he was a POW in Vietnam... so were a lot of others who aren't assholes with a mean and violent streak. I think John McCain uses his Hanoi Hilton experience as an excuse to cover for his often horrible behaviour.

My own thoughts are somewhere in the middle here ~ I once respected McCain too ~ but my respect dwindled further and further the more I learned about him personally ~ I will never dismiss what being in combat can do to a person or, maybe especially, what being a POW can do to a person ~ but there is a big difference in my own mind between conscious acts and subconscious acts ~ so Sid's "... uses his Hanoi Hilton experience as an excuse to cover for his often horrible behaviour" strikes me as at least probable ~

Sooz


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PostPosted: 02/03/13 3:56 pm • # 7 
McCain got to where he is today because of two things.... who his daddy was and his wife's money. He did not have grades good enough to get him into the high position in the military he was BUT because of his daddy was he got there. However even his daddy couldn't keep him from getting shot down but McCain himself probably could have had he gone to briefing the night before he took off on a mission but instead decided to stay out all night and party. After all, he could do that because of who his daddy was. Once back in the USA his wife bought and has continued to buy his senate seat.


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PostPosted: 02/03/13 5:25 pm • # 8 
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Sidartha wrote:
I've never admired him. So he was a POW in Vietnam... so were a lot of others who aren't assholes with a mean and violent streak. I think John McCain uses his Hanoi Hilton experience as an excuse to cover for his often horrible behaviour.


We really need a "like" button on this board.


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PostPosted: 02/04/13 3:33 pm • # 9 
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McCain is lost ~ that he would even make this kind of "joke", especially in light of the foreign policy hurdles and the instantaneous reach of the internet, is just simply beyond me ~ I repeat: for me, he has overstayed and overplayed any credibility and respect he once enjoyed ~ Sooz

The comedy stylings of John McCain
By Steve Benen - Mon Feb 4, 2013 1:36 PM EST

Chris Hayes this morning offered a helpful tip for political professionals everywhere: "Don't compare people to monkeys." And what precipitated this good advice? Sen. John McCain's latest attempt at humor.

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Yeah, hilarious. McCain is comparing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to a monkey. Pressed on this, McCain said folks should "lighten up," adding, "can't everyone take a joke?"

McCain's comedy stylings, you may recall, have gotten him into trouble before. He thought it was funny when he joked about bombing Iran during his presidential campaign. He's also tried to tell jokes about torture and improvised explosive devices.

And in 1998, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, McCain thought he was very clever when he told a nasty, tasteless joke about Chelsea Clinton, describing the then-president's daughter as "ugly," and suggesting that Janet Reno is a man.

Now he wants everyone to "lighten up" about his "joke" comparing a Middle Eastern man to a monkey. McCain might want to give George Allen a call and ask how monkey comparisons go over with a mainstream audience.

This morning, even a Republican congressman urged McCain to "wise up" and stop making "racist jokes."

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/02/04/16840010-the-comedy-stylings-of-john-mccain?lite


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PostPosted: 02/04/13 9:11 pm • # 10 
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oh sad, bitter little fellow.


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PostPosted: 02/05/13 9:11 am • # 11 
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I guess I'm bad too. When I first saw the space monkey pictures last week, I joked to my friend that it was just Ahmadinejhad cleaned up a bit....doing his two days of carefully coiffed stubble Don Johnson impression.


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PostPosted: 02/05/13 1:47 pm • # 12 
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yes, you are bad. but you are also not considered the GOP expert on foreign policy.


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macroscopic wrote:
yes, you are bad. but you are also not considered the GOP expert on foreign policy.


.......they've got an expert??????????????????????


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It's the best they can come up with at 4 years' notice.


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oskar576 wrote:
It's the best they can come up with at 4 years' notice.


all the cooler heads have been replaced by the likes of Rand Paul.


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