Fox Spews insanity again. How do they live with themselves? Video at the link

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October 08, 2013 01:39 PM
Fox News' Kilmeade Slams Navy SEALs For Aborting Mission Instead of Killing Children
By David

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade suggested on Tuesday that the Navy SEALs from Seal Team 6 were wrong to abort a mission on an Al-Shabaab camp in Somalia over the weekend just because they thought children would die.

According to NBC News, the plan to capture an Al-Shabaab warlord named Ikrima went awry when an enemy fighter spotted Seal Team 6 members and started a firefight. The SEALs soon recognized that children who were in the compound would die if the raid went forward so they aborted the mission.

"I think a lot of people thought that was -- and it is -- an incredible act of just honor for life, especially the little ones," Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck noted on Tuesday.

But Kilmeade saw things another way.

"This is something to keep in mind," he said. "Nobody wants children hurt. However, this is the guy that put a group together to take down a Kenyan shopping mall in an upper class neighborhood where those kids were tortured before they were killed. So if this guy's next operation kills children of ours or kills innocent children in a neighboring country that happen to not be Islamic extremists, did we make the right decision?"

"Well, the Navy SEALs made the determination," co-host Steve Doocy pointed out. "They looked in the scope, they saw the guy, but they saw the kids. And apparently the firefight was so hot, they just said, you know, we're going to have to leave."

if not killing kids is an absolute principle, they did the right thing.

if you are a relativist, like Kilmeade, they did the wrong thing.

Fox Spews insanity again. How do they live with themselves?

The same way other insane people do?

They believe that they are level 6 Moral Reasoners - they can rationalize anything to their POV and tie it up in a Universal Good bow,

We kill these 10 kids now we will save 1000 kids later.

However, they don't really get it. Stage 6 principles of justice require us to treat the claims of all parties in an impartial manner, respecting the basic dignity, of all people as individuals. The principles of justice are therefore universal; they apply to all. Thus, for example, we would not vote for a law that aids some people but hurts others. The principles of justice guide us toward decisions based on an equal respect for all.

the reasoning is not that straightforward. it can't be, because of "future uncertainty":

"if we kill 10 kids now, we might save 1000 later".

doesn't sound very moral, right?

"if we kill 10 kids now, we will probably save 1000 later".

that is probably closer to the mark. but what probability? 5%? 95%? and if we are taking a 5% chance on 100:1 odds, is that a wise choice? after all- it is CERTAIN that 10 will die now, but it is 5% uncertain that 1000 will die later, even in the best case.

i don't think there is a moral position to be made on this, if you look at it in terms of certainty of outcome. you can only control your OWN behavior, after all.

if we kill 10 kids now, we might save 1000 later".

doesn't sound very moral, right?

"if we kill 10 kids now, we will probably save 1000 later".

Isn't that the same reasoning the right-tards use when murdering abortion doctors? We kill the doctor to save untold numbers of babies.........

The only certainty being you would be killing 10 kids NOW, and those kids deserve respect (in this case a right to life).

it is, and it is faulty reasoning, for a number of reasons.

Ah, they're f**king for virginity again.

precisely- there are two problems with the logic:

1) moral agent (who is doing the killing)
2) certainty

it fails both tests. if YOU are the one doing the killing, then YOU are responsible. YOU are the moral agent.
what someone else MIGHT do is between them, God, and possibly the court system.

I just wonder how the United States would react if Somalia or some other nation sent an elite group into the United States to try to capture someone they wanted??!

What if Israel did it?