Israeli PM Netanyahu calls for EU to reverese decision
The Associated Press
Posted: Dec 17, 2014 6:25 AM ET|
Last Updated: Dec 17, 2014 6:25 AM ET

A European Union court on Wednesday ordered the Palestinian group Hamas removed from the EU terrorist list for procedural reasons, but says the bloc can maintain asset freezes against Hamas members for now.

The Islamic militant group, which calls for the destruction of Israel, hailed the decision. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urged the EU to reverse it.

Hamas was put on the EU terrorist list as part of broader measures to fight terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. It won elections in 2006 and runs Gaza, and has long contested the classification.

The EU court ruled Wednesday that the listing was based on press and Internet reports and not on "acts examined and confirmed in decisions of competent authorities."

The court insisted that its ruling did not "imply any substantive assessment of the question of the classification of Hamas as a terrorist group." It therefore ruled that the asset freezes should stay in place for three months pending further EU actions.

The EU is considering its next steps. It has two months to appeal.

The terrorist list designation bars EU officials from dealing with the group, and requires that any of the group's funds in EU countries be frozen.

The decision comes amid growing pressure from European legislators to recognize a Palestinian state, after years of stalemate in peace talks. There was also growing frustration in Europe with Israel's government after the Gaza war earlier this year.

Salah Bardawil, a Hamas official in Gaza, called the decision a "strong, good shift" that he said would ultimately lead to European action against Israel.

Netanyahu said Hamas is "a murderous terror organization" and called for Hamas to be immediately returned to the list.

Canada put Hamas on its group of "listed terrorist entities" in 2002.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/european-u ... -1.2875877

interesting move. i have been wondering for a while why Hamas was ON that list.

Part of the War on Tourism.

Hmm--how many governments openly declare the desire to see the annihilation of their neighor? I agree with Netanyahu.

US Govt. - Cuba.

So Zionists are the good guys?
Meanwhile, Israel is slowly committing a genocide of the PALs.

The US "... openly declare[d] the desire to see the annihilation ..." of Cuba is news to me ~ do you have links to that information?

Sooz

In my opinion it did.

Most everyone outside of the US did. Except Bin of course, and certain others who look every night for commies under their beds.

And then, of course, there's Israel - Palestine.

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Hmm--how many governments openly declare the desire to see the annihilation of their neighor? I agree with Netanyahu.

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Before you get all agreeey with Netanyahu maybe you should read up on the Judea and Samaria movement which is very powerful within the Israeli government (including Netanyahu) and which is government policy by deed if not word. It calls for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. There's another group, who are gaining power, called the Greater Israel movement which insists Israel should span from the Nile to the Euphrates.

Hamas long ago gave up the idea that Israel would disappear. What scares the hell out of Israel about Hamas is that Hamas, unlike Israel, keeps it's side of deals when it makes them. Every time it makes a deal with Israel, it keeps it. Hamas gave up terrorist attacks back around 2003 (it regularly gets blamed for attacks by other groups although I expect that by now its gone back to it's old ways. There's not much point in a unilateral ceasefire if the other side is just going to keep bombing you.) and was even removed from Israel's list of terrorist organizations. It wasn't until Hamas was elected in 2007 and Israel and the U.S. realized they might have to actually negotiate with the Palestinians that it's "terrorist" status was resurrected.

Guess I do need to do some more reading but don't we all. Have they started blaming Israel for all the underground tunnels discovered between Palestine and Israel? Give them time; they will eventually. In fact the Bible predicts that almost all of the world will turn against Israel. Yeah part of my belief system is loyalty to Israel'-that's not saying their government is always right but hey neither is our government. But my loyalty is intact. And I agree with Netanyahu regarding Hamas.

I dunno.
I do know that the people from the Warsaw Ghetto dug their tunnels to smuggle food into the ghetto.
I'd blame the Nazis for that.

Speaking as a virtually non-observant Jew and a "humanist", I don't support many of Israel's actions against the Pals, nor do I support Netanyahu [whose "coalition government" is now in shambles and who could very well not be reelected at the election in a few weeks] ~ I also do not support what Zionists have morphed into ~ but I also don't see the Pals as innocent victims ~ Hamas IS a terrorist organization which is now hungrily pursuing world credibility ~ Hamas officials live in splendor, leaving the majority of Pals in abject poverty ~ Hamas officials position themselves "among the people" for lobbing rockets, and then accuse Israelis of indiscriminate killing of "civilians" when they retaliate ~ on and on ~ over and over again ~

I don't believe anyone not living there has a full sense of the history ~

Sooz

For a very very good read I highly recommend "Israel My Beloved" and I don't remember the lady author's name except she was some kind of scholar. I found it hard to put down.

A terrorist organization removed from the list of terrorist organizations?
Either Israel and Hamas are both on the list or both off the list as there isn't much difference between the two.

Kay Arthur is firmly within the ostensibly conservative evangelical camp.
Not a chance for any bias in her fiction about Israel, right?

I don't believe anyone not living there has a full sense of the history

Which works both ways sooz. (and, if taken literally actually destroys History).

Oskar's right. If Hamas is a "terrorist" group then so is the Israeli government, They BOTH use terror for political ends. And the very fact that Israel consistently resists any attempt to accept the existence of Palestine as a full-blown nation state, is just as much an attempt to annihilate Palestine (albeit from the other side of the coin) as Hamas' desire to "annihilate" Israel.

In fact the Bible predicts that almost all of the world will turn against Israel. Yeah part of my belief system is loyalty to Israel'-that's not saying their government is always right but hey neither is our government. But my loyalty is intact. And I agree with Netanyahu regarding Hamas.


Nice statement of faith Cannalee, but most of us are actually interested in evidence and argument.

The Norse, Greek and Roman gods are far more interesting.
And they threw a hell of a party.

Perhaps you should read it before judging. I think it was a little too risqué to be evangelical but I will admit the end had an evangelical pov.

I don't read books of slick people who use religion to make money.

As a side note, I looked her up and noticed the claim that her Precept Ministries International "publishes books and Bible studies in nearly 150 countries and 70 languages", linking to "Our History", Precepts Ministry International website.
This is what I got as usually when I check out such claims:



Why do evangelicals always have to resort to lies and exaggerations in order to extract money from the faithful?

We don't tell people how or what to post here in VoC, CM ~ if you're not interested in a post, your option is to ignore it ~

Sooz

Brian? Is that you, Brian?

Heheheheheh