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PostPosted: 01/03/14 4:11 pm • # 1 
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I'm posting this mostly because of the wording. :lol I've highlighted the parts that gave me a giggle.

Ted Cruz still Canadian as immigration lawyers express confusion

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz vowed months ago to renounce his Canadian citizenship by the end of 2013. It's now 2014, and the Calgary-born Republican lawmaker is still a dual citizen.

"I have retained counsel that is preparing the paperwork to renounce the citizenship," the junior Texas senator, who's eyeing a run for president in 2016, said in a recent interview with the Dallas Morning News.

He didn't dispute holding dual citizenship: "Not at this point," Cruz told the paper.

That's confounding Canadian immigration lawyers. Renouncing Canadian citizenship, they say, is a simple, quick and straightforward process — there's even an online, four-page PDF form on the Government of Canada website to get the ball rolling without the help of lawyers.

"Unless there's a security issue that hasn't been disclosed, unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed, there's no reason for anything other than a lickety-split process to occur," Richard Kurland, a Vancouver-based immigration attorney, said in an interview Friday.

"If he's attempting to bring our system into disrepute by suggesting it's lengthy and complex, it's just not true. Revocation is one of the fastest processes in our system."

'Not complicated at all'

Stephen Green, an immigration lawyer in Toronto, was equally perplexed.

"It's not complicated at all," said Green, whose firm, Green and Spiegel, reached out to offer help to Cruz at one point but never received a return phone call from the senator's office.

"They make sure you understand what you're doing, that you're not going to become a stateless person, and then you're rock 'n' roll, and good to go. I would assume that if he's retained counsel, this could have been done by now."

Canada's best-known citizenship renouncer, Conrad Black, said in an email Friday that it "doesn't take long" for the revocation process to work.

He added Cruz may come to regret the move.

"He's making a mistake; he'll never go higher in the U.S. electoral system than he is now, and Canada's a better governed country than the U.S.," said Black, who gave up his citizenship in 2001 in order to accept a peerage in the British House of Lords.

Cruz's office didn't immediately respond for a request for comment.

'It's elementary'

The thorny issue of the Tea Party darling's birthplace has been a headache for the senator, given some in the neo-conservative movement have accused President Barack Obama of being born in Kenya — his father was Kenyan, his mother American — and insist he's therefore illegitimately leading the country.

Cruz, 43, was born in Calgary when his parents were working in the Canadian oil business. His mother, Eleanor, is a native-born American, while his father, Rafael, is a Cuban who didn't become a U.S. citizen until 2005.

Under U.S. law, a child born to an American parent gets automatic citizenship even if the birthplace is beyond U.S. borders. Canada, like the United States, also gives automatic citizenship to anyone born on its soil.

Even though it's precisely how the law works in the U.S., Cruz has said the news that he possessed dual citizenship came as a surprise to both him and his parents earlier this year.

The lawmaker insists his mother was told when he was a child that her boy would have to take affirmative action to claim Canadian citizenship.

"There was no reason to retain counsel to analyze Canadian law, because it wasn't relevant to anything I was doing," Cruz told the Dallas Morning News.

Kurland said he is skeptical.

"He's a Harvard-educated lawyer so what's the problem? It's elementary."

About 140 Canadian citizens a year renounce their citizenship, according to government figures. Many do so because some countries, such as China and Indonesia, don't allow dual citizenship.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/ted- ... onfusion-1


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PostPosted: 01/03/14 5:32 pm • # 2 
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Is there any way of just helping him out. Cancel his membership for example. I for one wouldn't want to see him waste any money heading for the door. Texas is welcome to him.


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PostPosted: 01/03/14 6:04 pm • # 3 
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Quote:
unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed


I don't think he's come clean on that.


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 1:36 am • # 4 
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jabra2 wrote:
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unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed


I don't think he's come clean on that.



Whew! For a minute there when I saw his name on the post I thought Jab was going to insist we had to keep him.


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 9:41 am • # 5 
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Being the freedom-loving people that we are Mr. Cruz should be free to f*ck off.


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 3:27 pm • # 6 
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it should be noted that Cruz's citizenship status is precisely the same as Obama's, IF YOU ASSUME THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA. if you assume that Obama was born in Hawaii, his status as a US citizen is even better.


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 5:36 pm • # 7 
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Do you think we should start a birther movement for when Crazy Cruz runs for president crazy 2016?


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 8:33 pm • # 8 
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jabra2 wrote:
Do you think we should start a birther movement for when Crazy Cruz runs for president crazy 2016?


DUDE! WE HAVE TO DO THIS! I AM TOTALLY SERIOUS!


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 8:37 pm • # 9 
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I'll check if the domain name CrazyCanadianCruz.org is still available.


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PostPosted: 01/04/14 8:38 pm • # 10 
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jabra2 wrote:
I'll check if the domain name CrazyCanadianCruz.org is still available.


i need to look into how Orly did it, and prepare for major parody.


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PostPosted: 01/05/14 1:53 pm • # 11 
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Ah Ha!!!!!!!

And if he's really a Canadian rather than a genuine American then that proves he's actually a communist who's secret aim is to put the US back under the authority of the British Monarchy!!!!

He's obviously out to destroy America!!!!!


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PostPosted: 01/06/14 1:11 am • # 12 
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Cattleman wrote:
Ah Ha!!!!!!!

And if he's really a Canadian rather than a genuine American then that proves he's actually a communist who's secret aim is to put the US back under the authority of the British Monarchy!!!!

He's obviously out to destroy America!!!!!


his dad is secretly Fidel Castro.


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