On 'that other Yuku site', member A posted her own comments about a news article on Republicans.

Member B copied her comments, replaced a few words words like "Republican" with "Democrat", and then posted it.

So member A then started another post to complain about this action.

What surprised me was the number that basically defended member B and even criticized member A for complaining.

What do you think about this?
Am I wrong to think member B acted childishly and inappropriate?
And not that it would, but if this happened here, how would it be handled?

Nope, you're still sane, John. I don't really know how it would be "handled" here by management, but I think most people here would see it your way.

I've seen it done in here before. I didn't really think it was a problem. It has been poiinted out before that the same complaints about one party can often be said about the other. What the copying and changing does is show this. Why would sooz need to do anything? People who don't like that it was done can post that.

Why are you stalking? You're wondering if they are doing something right. Is stalking right?

As long as you are going to be viewing other message boards, why not come by Politics and News? We can use some people there. If it doesn't pick up soon, I'm going to have to close the board up. It's been around since 2002.

John doesn't stalk. He is a contributing member there, as I am and a couple of others that also post here.

I've done that many times. Marked out a word and replaced it with another to "fix" their posts. The same has been done with mine a couple of times. No one has ever complained. I don't know what the big deal is. I mostly ignore person "B" anyway.

Then why does he say "that other Yuku site" rather than just saying the name of the board? He says in such a way like he's hiding something, yet "winks" to you because you all know what board he is referring to.

Just say the name of the board for crying out loud!!

Even sites like CNN and all the others now say the names of their competitors. When's the last time you heard CNN say, "that other news network that uses the name of an animal"?! They just "Fox News".

SciFi, why is John mentioning something that happens in another group "stalking" but you mentioning your group "not stalking"? ~ ~ many VoC members are members in multiple groups ~ just as you yourself are ~ and just as I am, too ~ for me, it's Andrew's support group, your group, and a Facebook group ~ I also think you need to check the definition of "stalking" ~

Just got home from school and read the offending thread ~ disclaimer: both of the posters involved are, and have caused, problems for years ~ frequently those problems have been intentional ~ the original poster has made a lot of "enemies" ~ the offender is just a troll, in every sense of the word ~

There's a BIG difference in what was done there and what has been done here ~ there, the offender c/p'd the original post and then just changed the words within the original poster's op ~ the offender did in fact note he was doing it within his comments, but he in no way emphasized what words were changed ... because he's a troll who delights in tormenting others ~ when it's been done here, the changer generally crosses out the words and adds her/his own changes right after the crossed out word or bolds the changed words, leaving the crossed out word or bolding visible, like such this ~ it is MUCH more obvious that way ~ while I'm thinking what the offender there did fits his "style", I'm not sure it rises to the legal definition of "plagiarism" ~

Answering John's question is tough ... mostly because BOTH of those posters are on our "NO, NEVER!" LIST ~

Sooz

I hope it doesn't constitute infidelity if I read or post on other boards, hate to violate some message board ethic I don't know about. I'm pretty sure that anyone who became as offensive as that J the B caricature is would be gone from here promptly. And I think if anyone paraphrased or edited my post in a halfway respectful manner, it would not be a problem for me. That said, I think it's a very poor way to put forth an argument.

I think SciFi meant "lurking" and not "stalking".

SciFi, I didn't name the other board (CEII) because I didn't think it mattered. And I don't know why you think I am stalking. I am totally involved in the discussion about the issue I described.

I posted this here to hear some different opinions. It would seem there are opposing views here as well.

Sooz has a point in that there can be differences in how this is done. The 'member B' that I mentioned changed various words and claimed he was correcting the lies.

No, it isn't plagiarism (member A never said it was) but I do see it as immature and insulting.

"A poor way to put forward an argument" Gramps? There wasn't any "argument" at all.

I'm the one who called it "plagiarism" and I'm not even slightly repentant. If you want to find out why you are going to have to delve into the chamber of horrors.

I just reread my above response ~ I didn't mean to sound flippant ~ trolls and narcissists are a problem for any group ~ Jabra tends to leave the "yucky" stuff to me, and I try very hard to not get in the middle of squabbles between members, even tho it can be very difficult to not jump in ~ if I'm concerned that a thread is getting out of control, I'll try to cool it down ~ my thinking is based on my belief that it is the members' group ~ I just happen to have the controls available to boot someone or close threads if absolutely necessary ~ but it is a core VoC commitment that everyone should be able to freely express themselves, even if no one else agrees ~ that does NOT guarantee there won't be disagreements ~ but disagreements are very different than personal attacks ~

Online anonymity seems to "empower" some, and people who "manage" groups learn fast who the "problems" are ~ the trolls and narcissists ~

Sooz

There, fixed it for you.

That's how it's done correctly.

LMAO!!! ~ practicing "confession is good for the soul", Jab? ~ yes, my hero Jab is always saving me from myself ~

Sooz

LOL jab that is exaclty how I do it.
Tell me how you did the line thingy. We don't seem to have that control here......or do we? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, never mind. I just found it by hovering over the controls. Never done that before. Who wuddathunk that "s" was for that purpose? I thought it might mean sonar or something.

I actually appreciated John not mentioning the name of the other group. I think most in this group are part of or were part of that group before. No problem with that although from some of the things I've heard, I don't understand why. Ha. Anyway the accusation of stalking or lurking is ridiculous. I also like the idea that he asked for opinions here on an issue raised. The issue is his point, not the other group.

Actually, the issue was an argument. B was saying the same could be said about democrats. I don't think that point is relevant but it is often said in debates, well they do it, too. I don't think what was done was bad, but I read all the posts on a thread I am actve on. I imagine it would be irritating if I didn't and would have to go back to see what was changed.

I like the way sooz handles things in ths group although I don't always agree with her choice. The only time I remember her closing a thread was the last one where jim and I were arguing. Still don't understand that, but so what.

Anyway, this was a good issue to ask about and again I appreciated that John did not mention the name of the group at first. I understand why he did the next time.

There's nothing like a little principled disagreement to liven up a conversation.

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It's the "s", 5'th selection from the right.