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PostPosted: 10/22/14 8:39 am • # 1 
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BREAKING: Federal Judge Rules Against Marriage Equality, Mocks Other Judges In Angry Diatribe
by Ian Millhiser Posted on October 21, 2014 at 10:05 pm

In an opinion that frequently crosses the line from visible rage to outright belligerence towards his judicial colleagues, a federal judge in Puerto Rico became one of just two federal judges to deny equal marriage rights to same-sex couples on Tuesday. Judge Juan Pérez-Giménez’s opinion accuses the overwhelming majority of federal judges who have sided with marriage equality of “inexplicable contortions of the mind or perhaps even willful ignorance.” At one point he appears to mock his colleagues, claiming that while the supposed fact that “this Court reaches its decision by embracing precedent may prove disappointing . . . there are some principles of logic and law that cannot be forgotten.” At another point, he claims that, if gay couples enjoy the same rights as straight couples, that will lead to a world where “laws barring polygamy, or, say the marriage of fathers and daughters” are “now of doubtful validity.”

The concluding section of Judge Pérez-Giménez’s opinion reads less like a judicial opinion than it does like a press release from the anti-gay National Organization for Marriage:

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Recent affirmances of same-gender marriage seem to suffer from a peculiar inability to recall the principles embodied in existing marriage law. Traditional marriage is “exclusively [an] opposite-sex institution . . . inextricably linked to procreation and biological kinship,” Windsor, 133 S. Ct. at 2718 (Alito, J., dissenting). Traditional marriage is the fundamental unit of the political order. And ultimately the very survival of the political order depends upon the procreative potential embodied in traditional marriage.

Those are the well-tested, well-proven principles on which we have relied for centuries.

Notice the citation in this passage. Judge Pérez-Giménez relies on a quote from Justice Samuel Alito’s dissenting opinion in United States v. Windsor. Dissenting opinions are, by definition, not the law because they reflect the views of the judges or justices who were unable to persuade a majority of their colleagues. Alito, in fact, was unable to persuade any of his fellow justices to join his opinion in full, although Justice Clarence Thomas did join parts of it.

Despite the angry and, at times, outright vicious rhetoric that pervades his opinion, Pérez-Giménez relies on a narrow technicality to dismiss the plaintiffs’ plea for equal treatment. Although the Supreme Court currently has a great deal of discretion over which cases it wants to take and which cases it will simply pass over, the Court’s mandatory jurisdiction — i.e. those cases that it has no choice but to decide — used to be much larger. Under the previous legal regime, the justices would sometimes get rid of a case within their mandatory jurisdiction that they did not want to hear by proclaiming that the case did not present a “substantial federal question.” That’s what the Court did in a 1972 marriage equality case called Baker v. Nelson.

Few judges believe, however, that Baker v. Nelson has any bearing on whether federal courts may consider marriage equality cases today. Indeed, Pérez-Giménez acknowledges this fact with a lengthy citation to other court decisions holding that Baker is no longer binding on lower courts. The list of cases that disagree with him is so long that it takes up nearly an entire page of his opinion.

So, while Pérez-Giménez clearly holds very passionate views on the question of whether same-sex couples are entitled to the same rights as everyone else, his views are unlikely to persuade many of his fellow judges. It’s even possible that his opinion could ultimately wind up bolstering the case for marriage equality. That’s because his decision will appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, a court dominated by Democratic appointees (although, it is worth noting that Pérez-Giménez was appointed to the bench by President Jimmy Carter). All four of the states that comprise the First Circuit — Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Rhode Island — are already marriage equality states, so a decision out of a federal court in Puerto Rico is the only path to bring a marriage equality case before this circuit.

Given the makeup of the First Circuit, the overwhelming consensus among federal judges in favor of marriage equality, and the belligerent tone of Pérez-Giménez’s opinion, it is unlikely that his decision will be upheld on appeal.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/10/21/3582742/federal-judge-upholds-marriage-discrimination-in-angry-rant-against-equality/


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PostPosted: 10/22/14 1:30 pm • # 2 
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"Traditional marriage" has been just about anything you can imagine.

And why in the world do people seem to think that Gay marriage will somehow mean the end of "traditional" marriage? Its not a zero-sum ....


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Cattleman wrote:
"Traditional marriage" has been just about anything you can imagine.

And why in the world do people seem to think that Gay marriage will somehow mean the end of "traditional" marriage? Its not a zero-sum ....


As soon as gay marriage is legalized everywhere Republicans will come out of the closet in force, break up their traditional marriage and marry their longtime gay partners. And there you have it.


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PostPosted: 10/23/14 8:40 am • # 4 
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Jab, if I hadn't known you for a long time and only read your posts over the last three months I would think you were a very different person. LMAO.


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PostPosted: 10/23/14 8:47 am • # 5 
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jabra2 wrote:
Cattleman wrote:
"Traditional marriage" has been just about anything you can imagine.

And why in the world do people seem to think that Gay marriage will somehow mean the end of "traditional" marriage? Its not a zero-sum ....


As soon as gay marriage is legalized everywhere Republicans will come out of the closet in force, break up their traditional marriage and marry their longtime gay partners. And there you have it.


LOL! My favorite defense for their bigotry is this:

"We must protect the sanctity of marriage and we know that children are better of being raised in an intact family with a Mom and a Dad"

If that were really the case, they should be fighting tooth and nail to outlaw divorce, not any kind of marriage. :b


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queenoftheuniverse wrote:
Jab, if I hadn't known you for a long time and only read your posts over the last three months I would think you were a very different person. LMAO.


Yeah, in my old sarcastic days I would have thrown in a couple of references to bestiality, pedophilia, incest and other stuff fundamentalist republicans are fond of.
I guess old age makes me mellow.


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