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PostPosted: 09/03/21 6:46 am • # 1226 
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Love this clever work-around for an insane law!

How Birmingham-Southern College got 78% of students vaccinated after COVID test charge

Don’t call it a vaccine mandate.

Birmingham-Southern College’s creative workaround to a provision in Alabama law that stops schools and colleges from requiring the COVID-19 vaccine has led to about 78% of students getting fully vaccinated.

The small college doesn’t require the shots, but did charge all students a $500 fee for weekly COVID-testing. If students disclosed a COVID vaccination, they received a rebate.

https://www.al.com/educationlab/2021/09 ... harge.html


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PostPosted: 09/04/21 4:30 am • # 1227 
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Seems it's not just the unvaccinated that are clogging ICU's

"A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

“There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” said Dr. Jason McElyea.
Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse, because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

That’s something McElyea said is now backing up ambulance systems as well.

“All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it,” said Dr. McElyea. “If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”
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“Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught COVID,” said the doctor.

Dr. McElyea said the patients are suffering from nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and cramping, and that’s only in minor cases.
“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” he said.

Even the manufacturer states there is no scientific basis or meaningful evidence Ivermectin is effective against COVID. However, many of the tractor supply stores say their shelves are empty.

“You have to ask yourself, ‘If I take this medicine, what am I going to do if something bad happens?’ What’s your next step, what’s your backup plan?” the doctor said. “If you’re going to take a medicine that could affect your health, do it with a doctor on board. Make those decisions with a thoroughly vetted opinion. There’s a lot of schooling that goes into that. It’s not just something you look on the internet for and decide if it’s the right dose.”"

Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-ov ... mbulances/


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Pediatric hospitalizations for Covid in the U.S. have soared over the summer, according to two new studies from the CDC.

But vaccination has made a difference. Pediatric hospital admissions were nearly four times as high in states with the lowest vaccination rates as in those with the highest rates, according to a second study.

The studies do not provide clear answers about whether Delta causes more severe disease in children than earlier versions of the virus.

The rise in pediatric hospitalizations could also be due to the variant’s high infectiousness.


Hospitalizations for children sharply increase as Delta surges, C.D.C. studies find.
By Emma Goldberg and Emily Anthes

Pediatric hospitalizations for Covid-19 have soared over the summer as the highly contagious Delta variant spread across the country, according to two new studies from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

From late June to mid-August, hospitalization rates in the United States for children and teenagers increased nearly fivefold, although they remain slightly below January’s peak, one new study found.

But vaccination has made a difference. During this summer’s wave, the hospitalization rate was 10 times as high in unvaccinated adolescents as in those who were vaccinated, researchers found. Pediatric hospital admissions were nearly four times as high in states with the lowest vaccination rates as in those with the highest rates, according to a second study.

The studies, released on Friday, do not provide clear answers about whether Delta causes more severe disease in children than earlier versions of the virus. The rise in pediatric hospitalizations could also be due to the variant’s high infectiousness.

Indeed, one study concluded that the proportion of hospitalized children with severe disease had not changed in late June and July, when the Delta variant became dominant in the United States.

The rates reported in the C.D.C. studies are based on data from two national surveillance systems, including hospitals in 49 states and Washington, D.C.

In one C.D.C. study, researchers found that since July, when the Delta variant became predominant, the rate of new coronavirus cases increased for children 17 and younger, as did Covid-related emergency room visits and hospital admissions.

“We saw that E.R. visits, cases and hospital admissions are rising,” said Dr. David Siegel, lieutenant commander in the U.S. Public Health Service and the lead author of the paper. “It could be that Delta is more severe or that ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/heal ... rates.html


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PostPosted: 09/04/21 9:32 am • # 1229 
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And the crazies are out in force ...

Dad arrested after men with zip ties threaten Ariz. principal over COVID-19 protocols


The father of an Arizona elementary school student was arrested after he and two other men showed up to the campus with zip ties, threatening to make a "citizen's arrest" on the school principal over a COVID-19 quarantine, school officials said Friday.

Diane Vargo, principal of Mesquite Elementary School in Tucson, said the parent came to her office Thursday with his son in tow. The father was upset the child would have to isolate and miss a school field trip because of possible exposure to someone with COVID-19. She said two other men also "barged in."

One was carrying "military, large, black zip ties and standing in my doorway." Vargo said she tried to de-escalate the situation while ...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/dad-arrest ... -1.5573340

BTW, "This wasn't the first virus-inspired confrontation involving the Tucson area school district ..."


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PostPosted: 09/06/21 7:33 am • # 1230 
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This is gonna be fun!!

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Brazilian scientists have discovered that a native viper’s venom can be used as a drug to help combat COVID-19, Reuters reported.

In the scientific journal Molecules, scientists shared results from a study on monkey cells showing that a molecule from a Brazilian jararacussu pit viper can inhibit the virus’s ability to multiply by 75 percent.

A molecule in the venom can connect to the enzyme of the virus, PLPro, which is vital to the reproduction of the virus, according to Reuters.

"We were able to show this component of snake venom was able to inhibit a very important protein from the virus," University of São Paulo professor Rafael Guido told the news agency.

Scientists will now evaluate the efficiency of different doses of the molecule, seeking to determine if it can prevent the virus from entering cells, Reuters noted.

The discovery also sparked some concerns. Herpetologist Giuseppe Puorto said that he worries about people traveling around the country trying to be cured by the viper’s venom.

"We're wary about people going out to hunt the jararacussu around Brazil, thinking they're going to save the world. ... That's not it!" Puorto told Reuters. "It's not the venom itself that will cure the coronavirus."

The jararacussu pit viper is also one of the ...

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/p ... -to-combat

And if you can't go to Brazil to find that snake how about trying a good ole Murrican rattler?


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PostPosted: 09/06/21 7:51 am • # 1231 
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Meet Murrica's new self-certified doctors.

Pentecostal Pastors Argue 'Snake Handling' Is Their Religious Right

Nov. 21, 2013— -- Standing in front of his congregation at a small Pentecostal church in Kentucky, Pastor Jamie Coots held the long, sleek body of a poisonous snake, practicing what he considers a holy Christian sacrament, but what others are calling a threat to public safety.

In tiny churches tucked away in rural Appalachia, "snake handling," which began generations ago as an expression of faith, is turning into a fight over religious freedom.

More------> https://abcnews.go.com/US/pentecostal-p ... d=20971576


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PostPosted: 09/07/21 1:25 pm • # 1232 
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Following on post #1209

Judge denies request for Ohio hospital to treat COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin


https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5575892


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Any United Airlines employee who is allowed to remain unvaccinated for religious or medical reasons will be placed on leave, in many cases unpaid. Workers who are not granted exemptions face being fired unless they get their first shot by Sept. 27 or are fully vaccinated within five weeks of receiving the denial

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/08 ... t-on-leave


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Covid News: L.A. School System Is Expected to Issue Student Vaccination Mandate

L.A. is set to become the first major U.S. school district to require vaccinations for students


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/08 ... ement-kids


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PostPosted: 09/09/21 6:04 pm • # 1235 
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shiftless2 wrote:
Seems it's not just the unvaccinated that are clogging ICU's

"A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

“There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” said Dr. Jason McElyea.
Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse, because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

That’s something McElyea said is now backing up ambulance systems as well.

“All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it,” said Dr. McElyea. “If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”
[...]

“Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught COVID,” said the doctor.

Dr. McElyea said the patients are suffering from nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and cramping, and that’s only in minor cases.
“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” he said.

Even the manufacturer states there is no scientific basis or meaningful evidence Ivermectin is effective against COVID. However, many of the tractor supply stores say their shelves are empty.

“You have to ask yourself, ‘If I take this medicine, what am I going to do if something bad happens?’ What’s your next step, what’s your backup plan?” the doctor said. “If you’re going to take a medicine that could affect your health, do it with a doctor on board. Make those decisions with a thoroughly vetted opinion. There’s a lot of schooling that goes into that. It’s not just something you look on the internet for and decide if it’s the right dose.”"

Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-ov ... mbulances/


on the contrary. they are the same group.
different reason. same group.


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PostPosted: 09/09/21 6:34 pm • # 1236 
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Saw an article a little earlier where the hospital said this isn't true.


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PostPosted: 09/09/21 8:59 pm • # 1237 
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what isn't true?


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PostPosted: 09/10/21 4:22 am • # 1238 
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macroscopic wrote:
what isn't true?

Sorry - #1235


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BioNTech to seek approval soon for vaccine for 5-11 year olds: report
Reuters Staff

BioNTech is set to request approval across the globe to use its COVID-19 vaccine in children as young as five over the next few weeks and preparations for a launch are on track, the biotech firm's two top executives told newspaper Der Spiegel.

"Already over the next few weeks we will file the results of our trial in five to 11 year olds with regulators across the world and will request approval of the vaccine in this age group, also here in Europe," Chief Medical Officer Oezlem Tuereci told the news weekly.

The confident statements underscore the lead that BioNTech, which collaborates with Pfizer, holds in the race to ...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5579969


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PostPosted: 09/10/21 12:57 pm • # 1240 
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shiftless2 wrote:
macroscopic wrote:
what isn't true?

Sorry - #1235


what part? the fact that ivermectin people are in hospitals, or that they are the same as the anti-vax community?

if it is the latter, I will need proof of that, because it makes no sense to me that they are NOT the same people.


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PostPosted: 09/10/21 2:00 pm • # 1241 
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The claim that they're clogging the hospitals. No question they're the same people. And no question that some of them are in the hospital. Just that the numbers in that article are exaggerated.


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PostPosted: 09/11/21 7:07 pm • # 1242 
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ok. thanks. that is what I figured you meant.


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PostPosted: 09/14/21 4:46 am • # 1243 
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The M.T.A. will withhold death benefits from unvaccinated workers.

New York’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of Covid-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.

The authority, which runs New York City’s subways, buses and commuter trains, has provided the $500,000 benefit to all of its 68,000 employees since last year. But in April, as vaccines became widely available, the authority decided that ...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/13 ... ed-workers


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Hospital Asks Staff to Prove Religious Exemption for COVID Vaccine by Refusing Tylenol

"....the hospital saw an influx in religious exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccine with a majority of them citing an issue with fetal cells. In response, the hospital created a form that requires employees to attest to the fact that they don't use any medications, prescription or otherwise, or vaccines that also used fetal cells in their development.

More than 30 items were listed on the form, including Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Ex-Lax, Benadryl and Claritin. The hospital acknowledged that it wasn't an extensive list and employees had to attest to not using anything that used fetal cells."

:lol

Edit to add link that I somehow forgot...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hospi ... entnewsntp


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Love it - got a link?


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Bob Enyart, conservative firebrand and pastor, dies of COVID-19

In October, Enyart successfully sued the state over mask mandates and capacity limits in churches, a rare legal victory against broad public health mandates instituted during the pandemic.

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/09/13/bob-enyart-dies-covid-19/


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PostPosted: 09/15/21 12:08 pm • # 1247 
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Guess being a dead winner is a good thing? :eyes


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People here have had enough with the Germany/Nazi comparison in regards to the mask mandate and vaccine passport requirement. They are now speaking out. "When the government starts rounding you up (the stupid protestors), marching you to a ditch, stripping you naked, shooting you in the head and burying you in the ditch after you fall, THEN you can make the comparison"

Here they have been protesting at hospitals. WHY? They have stopped ambulances from getting to the hospital with critical patients, stopped cancer patients who need chemo etc., stopped a woman in labor...on and on. How f'king stupid is that? Protesting at the VERY place you would need and want if you became ill.


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PostPosted: 09/15/21 3:40 pm • # 1249 
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roseanne wrote:
People here have had enough with the Germany/Nazi comparison in regards to the mask mandate and vaccine passport requirement. They are now speaking out. "When the government starts rounding you up (the stupid protestors), marching you to a ditch, stripping you naked, shooting you in the head and burying you in the ditch after you fall, THEN you can make the comparison"

Here they have been protesting at hospitals. WHY? They have stopped ambulances from getting to the hospital with critical patients, stopped cancer patients who need chemo etc., stopped a woman in labor...on and on. How f'king stupid is that? Protesting at the VERY place you would need and want if you became ill.


Because they're stupid.


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Both the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines have received full Health Canada approval for anyone aged 12 and older on Thursday.

Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines get full Health Canada approval — and new names


https://globalnews.ca/news/8195443/covi ... er-moderna


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