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PostPosted: 05/16/16 7:17 pm • # 126 
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The Clinton's are E-S-T-A-B-L-I-S-H-M-E-N-T. Hillary will be mediocre at best.


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The Clinton's are E-S-T-A-B-L-I-S-H-M-E-N-T. Hillary will be mediocre at best.

,,,but still better than Drumpf.


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but less amusing.


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jabra2 wrote:
oskar576 wrote:
The Clinton's are E-S-T-A-B-L-I-S-H-M-E-N-T. Hillary will be mediocre at best.

,,,but still better than Drumpf.


.... and worse than a colonoscopy.


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Bernie has done a superb job of pushing Hillary further to the left ... and that will be exceptionally difficult for her to just recant ~ but while Bernie remains my preferred candidate, he's piling up mistakes now ~ I'm thinking maybe he kicked it into high gear too late in this cycle ~ he's lit a fire with millions of voters [especially young voters], but a year is just not enough time to change multi generations of habit and tradition ~

Bottom line for me personally: I will vote for whomever is the Dem candidate ~ I've come to deeply believe that ANY Dem is better than ANY GOP/TPer ... especially with the USSC hanging in the balance ~ if Bernie somehow ends up being the candidate, I'll happily vote for him ~ if Hillary ends up being the candidate, I'll [less happily] vote for her ~

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Bernie has done a superb job of pushing Hillary further to the left ... and that will be exceptionally difficult for her to just recant ~ but while Bernie remains my preferred candidate, he's piling up mistakes now ~ I'm thinking maybe he kicked it into high gear too late in this cycle ~ he's lit a fire with millions of voters [especially young voters], but a year is just not enough time to change multi generations of habit and tradition ~

Bottom line for me personally: I will vote for whomever is the Dem candidate ~ I've come to deeply believe that ANY Dem is better than ANY GOP/TPer ... especially with the USSC hanging in the balance ~ if Bernie somehow ends up being the candidate, I'll happily vote for him ~ if Hillary ends up being the candidate, I'll [less happily] vote for her ~

Sooz


And how does that differentiate you from the unthinking rabid "(R)" at any cost fanatics who brought Trump to his current position and may well hand him the White House?


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Bernie has done a superb job of pushing Hillary further to the left ... and that will be exceptionally difficult for her to just recant ~ but while Bernie remains my preferred candidate, he's piling up mistakes now ~ I'm thinking maybe he kicked it into high gear too late in this cycle ~ he's lit a fire with millions of voters [especially young voters], but a year is just not enough time to change multi generations of habit and tradition ~

Bottom line for me personally: I will vote for whomever is the Dem candidate ~ I've come to deeply believe that ANY Dem is better than ANY GOP/TPer ... especially with the USSC hanging in the balance ~ if Bernie somehow ends up being the candidate, I'll happily vote for him ~ if Hillary ends up being the candidate, I'll [less happily] vote for her ~

Sooz

And how does that differentiate you from the unthinking rabid "(R)" at any cost fanatics who brought Trump to his current position and may well hand him the White House?

For me, the differentiation is that I have looked at/studied both sides [D and R] and know what and why I'm choosing ~ it's NOT "blind faith" based purely on memes from me ~ and it's definitely not "unthinking" from me ~

I first became "politically aware" during VietNam ~ and I was rabidly liberal ~ over the years, I moderated to "center left" ~ but the gwb cabal reawakened my rabid liberal tendencies and the current crop of GOP/TPers has cemented those rabid liberal tendencies in place ~ there is not a single GOP/TPer candidate today, or even on the horizon, with whom I agree or respect on ANY social or economic policy ~

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For me, the differentiation is that I have looked at/studied both sides [D and R] and know what and why I'm choosing ~ it's NOT "blind faith" based purely on memes from me ~ and it's definitely not "unthinking" from me ~

But that's not what you said in your previous post where you said you said you would vote for any Dem rather than an Repub.

Bottom line for me personally: I will vote for whomever is the Dem candidate ~ I've come to deeply believe that ANY Dem is better than ANY GOP/TPer


I don't know how that differs from the Republican who says any "R" is better than a "D" regardless of what either of them stand for. It also exemplifies the deep partisan rift in American politics and how a Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders can rise to the top and even, possibly become President. As a people, Americans tend to be pretty centrist but, politically, you're nuts.


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I get what you're saying, jim, but I think you're splitting hairs ~ obviously, I'm talking about the 2016 candidates ~ and I deeply believe that either Hillary or Bernie is light-years better than the carny barker liar DT [or, for that matter, any of the GOP/TPer drop-outs] ~

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I get what you're saying, jim, but I think you're splitting hairs ~ obviously, I'm talking about the 2016 candidates ~ and I deeply believe that [i]either Hillary or Bernie is light-years better than the carny barker liar DT [or, for that matter, any of the GOP/TPer drop-outs] ~

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If you are just talking 2016, that's like saying water is wet.


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sooz06 wrote:
I get what you're saying, jim, but I think you're splitting hairs ~ obviously, I'm talking about the 2016 candidates ~ and I deeply believe that [i]either Hillary or Bernie is light-years better than the carny barker liar DT [or, for that matter, any of the GOP/TPer drop-outs] ~

Sooz
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If you are just talking 2016, that's like saying water is wet.

NEWS FLASH: while it's difficult to forecast the future, jim, water IS wet [at least to those of us with working brain cells] ~ I've posted repeatedly that I rabidly DISagree with the GOP/TP mindset about social, economic, and international policies ~ and I don't expect any of them to do even a 90* turn in the near future ~ :g

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From my Facebook feed ~ Sooz

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An old friend writes: “America is becoming unhinged. It's not just the mass shootings and gun-crazed violence. The vitriol and hatred I see are free-floating. Trump responds to 50 murders by triumphantly saying, ‘I was right!!’ John McCain says Obama was ‘directly responsible’ for the attack. A Georgia congressman asks people to pray for Obama's death. A Baptist preacher rejoices in the death of 50 gays and says all LGBTs should be lined up against a wall and shot -- and his congregation cheers. Fox News has a Sunday's worth of professional Republican haters and slanderers. Bernie-or-busters hate Hillary. Hillary supporters hate Bernie. Everybody seems to hate everybody else. What the hell is happening to us?”

Advice to my old friend and anyone else who feels we're becoming unhinged:

1. It's not nearly as bad as it looks. The media continue to sensationalize the rants of a minority of loud and hateful lunatics. The vast majority of Americans are decent, reasonable, and tolerant. True, Trump is still only six points down from Hillary, but that’s not because his bigotry and hatefulness has such strong support; it’s because many Americans still just don’t trust Hillary.

2. The economy continues to be horrific for the bottom 60 percent – whose wages continue to drop, adjusted for inflation, and whose paychecks are becoming less secure by the day. They’re angry and frustrated, and some of that anger and frustration is being exploited by Trump, conservative politicians, and right-wing broadcast demagogues to blame others (immigrants, Muslims, blacks, Jews). This is not new in history.

3. The Internet is creating communities of people who reinforce their own views and biases, and cuts them off from everyone who might cause them to question those views and biases. It’s also giving people anonymity – allowing them an emotional outlet in which they can say far crueler things than they’d say in person, or perhaps even than they believe.

None of this excuses hate speech and hateful acts, but it does I think explain what's occurring, and suggest it's not as bad as it sometimes looks or feels.

What do you think?


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From my Facebook feed ~ Sooz

Robert Reich wrote:
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Yesterday at 11:08am

An old friend writes: “America is becoming unhinged. It's not just the mass shootings and gun-crazed violence. The vitriol and hatred I see are free-floating. Trump responds to 50 murders by triumphantly saying, ‘I was right!!’ John McCain says Obama was ‘directly responsible’ for the attack. A Georgia congressman asks people to pray for Obama's death. A Baptist preacher rejoices in the death of 50 gays and says all LGBTs should be lined up against a wall and shot -- and his congregation cheers. Fox News has a Sunday's worth of professional Republican haters and slanderers. Bernie-or-busters hate Hillary. Hillary supporters hate Bernie. Everybody seems to hate everybody else. What the hell is happening to us?”

Advice to my old friend and anyone else who feels we're becoming unhinged:

1. It's not nearly as bad as it looks. The media continue to sensationalize the rants of a minority of loud and hateful lunatics. The vast majority of Americans are decent, reasonable, and tolerant. True, Trump is still only six points down from Hillary, but that’s not because his bigotry and hatefulness has such strong support; it’s because many Americans still just don’t trust Hillary.

2. The economy continues to be horrific for the bottom 60 percent – whose wages continue to drop, adjusted for inflation, and whose paychecks are becoming less secure by the day. They’re angry and frustrated, and some of that anger and frustration is being exploited by Trump, conservative politicians, and right-wing broadcast demagogues to blame others (immigrants, Muslims, blacks, Jews). This is not new in history.

3. The Internet is creating communities of people who reinforce their own views and biases, and cuts them off from everyone who might cause them to question those views and biases. It’s also giving people anonymity – allowing them an emotional outlet in which they can say far crueler things than they’d say in person, or perhaps even than they believe.

None of this excuses hate speech and hateful acts, but it does I think explain what's occurring, and suggest it's not as bad as it sometimes looks or feels.

What do you think?


Some thought Hitler and Mussolini weren't "all that bad". At least enough of them thought that way and I would say most were decent people who were angry at their lot caused by the Versailles Treaty. The cause of the problems may be different but the results are becoming rather similar.


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They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945

By Milton Mayer

University of Chicago Press. Reissued in paperback, April, 1981.


As Harpers Magazine noted when the book was published in 1955 (U. of Chicago), Milton Mayer's extraordinarily far-sighted book on the Germans is more timely today than ever.

But Then It Was Too Late

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know it doesn't make people close to their government to be told that this is a people's government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing to do with knowing one is governing.

What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

"You will understand me when I say that my Middle High German was my life. It was all I cared about. I was a scholar, a specialist. Then, suddenly, I was plunged into all the new activity, as the universe was drawn into the new situation; meetings, conferences, interviews, ceremonies, and, above all, papers to be filled out, reports, bibliographies, lists, questionnaires. And on top of that were the demands in the community, the things in which one had to, was "expected to" participate that had not been there or had not been important before. It was all rigmarole, of course, but it consumed all one's energies, coming on top of the work one really wanted to do. You can see how easy it was, then, not to think about fundamental things. One had no time."

"Those," I said, "are the words of my friend the baker. "One had no time to think. There was so much going on." "Your friend the baker was right," said my colleague. "The dictatorship, and the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting. It provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway. I do not speak of your "little men", your baker and so on; I speak of my colleagues and myself, learned men, mind you. Most of us did not want to think about fundamental things and never had. There was no need to. Nazism gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about - we were decent people - and kept us so busy with continuous changes and "crises" and so fascinated, yes, fascinated, by the machinations of the "national enemies", without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. Unconsciously, I suppose, we were grateful. Who wants to think?

"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it - please try to believe me - unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, "regretted," that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these "little measures" that no "patriotic German" could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

"How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice - "Resist the beginnings" and "consider the end." But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have changed here before they went as far as they did; they didn't, but they might have. And everyone counts on that might.

"Your "little men," your Nazi friends, were not against National Socialism in principle. Men like me, who were, are the greater offenders, not because we knew better (that would be too much to say) but because we sensed better. Pastor Niemoller spoke for the thousands and thousands of men like me when he spoke (too modestly of himself) and said that, when the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but, after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing: and then they attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still, he was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a Churchman, and he did something - but then it was too late."

"Yes," I said.

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn't see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for the one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even to talk, alone; you don't want to "go out of your way to make trouble." Why not? - Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, "everyone is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there will be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to you colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, "It's not so bad" or "You're seeing things" or "You're an alarmist."

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can't prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don't know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to ö to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and the smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked ö if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in "43" had come immediately after the "German Firm" stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in "33". But of course this isn't the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying "Jew swine," collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in ö your nation, your people ö is not the world you were in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

"You have gone almost all the way yourself. Life is a continuing process, a flow, not a succession of acts and events at all. It has flowed to a new level, carrying you with it, without any effort on your part. On this new level you live, you have been living more comfortably every day, with new morals, new principles. You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things that your father, even in Germany, could not have imagined.

"Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven't done ( for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.

"What then? You must then shoot yourself. A few did. Or "adjust" your principles. Many tried, and some, I suppose, succeeded; not I, however. Or learn to live the rest of your life with your shame. This last is the nearest there is, under the circumstances, to heroism: shame. Many Germans became this poor kind of hero, many more, I think, than the world knows or cares to know."

I said nothing. I thought of nothing to say.

"I can tell you," my colleague went on, "of a man in Leipzig, a judge. He was not a Nazi, except nominally, but he certainly wasn't an anti Nazi. He was just ö a judge. In "42" or "43", early "43", I think it was, a Jew was tried before him in a case involving, but only incidentally, relations with an "Aryan" woman. This was "race injury", something the Party was especially anxious to punish. In the case a bar, however, the judge had the power to convict the man of a "nonracial" offense and send him to an ordinary prison for a very long term, thus saving him from Party "processing" which would have meant concentration camp or, more probably, deportation and death. But the man was innocent of the "nonracial" charge, in the judge's opinion, and so, as an honorable judge, he acquitted him. Of course, the Party seized the Jew as soon as he left the courtroom.
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"And the judge?"

"Yes, the judge. He could not get the case off his conscience ö a case, mind you, in which he had acquitted an innocent man. He thought that he should have convicted him and saved him from the Party, but how could he have convicted an innocent man? The thing preyed on him more and more, and he had to talk about it, first to his family, then to his friends, and then to acquaintances. (That's how I heard about it.) After the "44" Putsch they arrested him. After that, I don't know."

I said nothing.

"Once the war began," my colleague continued, "resistance, protest, criticism, complaint, all carried with them a multiplied likelihood of the greatest punishment. Mere lack of enthusiasm, or failure to show it in public, was "defeatism." You assumed that there were lists of those who would be "dealt with" later, after the victory. Goebbels was very clever here, too. He continually promised a "victory orgy" to "take care of" those who thought that their "treasonable attitude" had escaped notice. And he meant it; that was not just propaganda. And that was enough to put an end to all uncertainty.

"Once the war began, the government could do anything "necessary" to win it; so it was with the "final solution" of the Jewish problem, which the Nazis always talked about but never dared undertake, not even the Nazis, until war and its "necessities" gave them the knowledge that they could get away with it. The people abroad who thought that war against Hitler would help the Jews were wrong. And the people in Germany who, once the war had begun, still thought of complaining, protesting, resisting, were betting on Germany's losing the war. It was a long bet. Not many made it."

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Robert Reich hits another bull's-eye with this commentary from my Facebook feed ~ emphasis/bolding below is mine ~ Sooz

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Yesterday, Trump argued that the United States should investigate every American who practices Islam. "We really have to look at profiling," Trump told CBS's "Face the Nation." And that the government should investigate mosques in the U.S.

Never before has a major party’s presumptive nominee for president of the United States urged that an entire religion be singled out for investigation. Each day, it seems, Trump comes closer to the fascism America went to war against in 1941. Why doesn’t Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and every Republican leader withdraw their endorsement of him and disavow this hatefulness? To nominate this bigot for the highest office in America is a slap in the face of American values, constitutional rights, and the pluralism America stands for. Trump must be dumped.

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Robert Reich hits another bull's-eye with this commentary from my Facebook feed ~ emphasis/bolding below is mine ~ Sooz

Robert Reich wrote:
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Yesterday, Trump argued that the United States should investigate every American who practices Islam. "We really have to look at profiling," Trump told CBS's "Face the Nation." And that the government should investigate mosques in the U.S.

Never before has a major party’s presumptive nominee for president of the United States urged that an entire religion be singled out for investigation. Each day, it seems, Trump comes closer to the fascism America went to war against in 1941. Why doesn’t Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and every Republican leader withdraw their endorsement of him and disavow this hatefulness? To nominate this bigot for the highest office in America is a slap in the face of American values, constitutional rights, and the pluralism America stands for. Trump must be dumped.

What do you think?


First there is no more chance of Ryan and his cohorts changing their endorsement than there would be of Dem leadership repudiating the Dem candidate under similar circumstances. Partisan politics demands absolute, unquestioning discipline.

More importantly, we've had a number of articles posted recently about Christian preachers cheering for the shooter. Now that Christians have found common cause with ISIS shouldn't Trump be talking about profiling them too? Maybe even banning them the U.S.?


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We talk a lot about Patriotism, especially around July 4th, but we need also to take to heart its five basic principles.

First: True patriotism isn’t simply about waving the American flag. And it’s not mostly about securing our borders, putting up walls and keeping others out.

It’s about coming together for the common good.

Second: Real patriotism is not cheap. It requires taking on a fair share of the burdens of keeping America going – being willing to pay taxes in full rather than seeking tax loopholes and squirreling away money abroad. Not just voting but becoming politically active, volunteering time and energy to improving this country.

Third: Patriotism is about preserving, fortifying, and protecting our democracy, not inundating it with big money and buying off politicians. It means defending the right to vote and ensuring more Americans are heard, not fewer.

Fourth: True patriots don’t hate the government of the United States. They’re proud of their country and know the government is a tool to help us solve problems together. They may not like everything it does, and they justifiably worry when special interests gain too much power over it. But true patriots work to improve our government, not destroy it.

Finally, patriots don’t pander to divisiveness. They don’t fuel racist or religious or ethnic divisions. They aren’t homophobic or sexist or racist.

To the contrary, true patriots seek to confirm and strengthen and celebrate the “we” in “we the people of the United States.”

Have a happy and safe Fourth of July.

- Robert Reich


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LOVE that man's mind! ~ thanks for posting this, John ~

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An excellent and thought-provoking read ~ and I still believe that Citizens United is the single-worst USSC decision in my lifetime ~ emphasis/bolding [admittedly, I got carried away as I was reading] below is mine ~ Sooz

Robert Reich: We're Stuck With Trumpism Whether He Wins or Loses
After Trump, our politics seem likely to remain as polarized as before—between establishment and anti-establishment.
By Robert Reich / RobertReich.org / August 28, 2016

I recently got a call from a political analyst in Washington. “Trump is dropping like a stone,” he said, convincingly. “After Election Day, he’s history.”

I think Trump will lose the election, but I doubt he’ll be “history.”

Defeated presidential candidates typically disappear from public view. Think Mitt Romney or Michael Dukakis.

But Donald Trump won’t disappear. Trump needs attention the way normal people need food.

For starters, he’ll dispute the election results. He’s already warned followers “we better be careful because that election is going to be rigged and I hope the Republicans are watching closely, or it’s going to be taken away from us.“

His first campaign ad, released last week, features an image of a polling site with the word “rigged” flashing onscreen less than two seconds after the spot begins.

Trump won’t have any legal grounds to stand on—this election won’t be a nail-biter like 2000—but his goal won’t be to win in court. It will be to sow enough doubt about the legitimacy of Hillary Clinton’s election that he can continue to feed paranoia on the right.

A recent Pew Research Center survey shows even now, 51 percent of Mr. Trump’s supporters have little or no confidence in the accuracy of the vote count nationally. That’s a big change from supporters of the defeated Republican nominees in 2004 and 2008.

Reportedly, Trump is also considering launching his own media network. He’s already hired two of the nation’s most infamous right-wing fight promoters—Roger Ailes, the founder and former CEO of Fox News, and Stephen Bannon, the pugilistic former head of Breitbart News—who’d take to such an enterprise like alligators to mud.

According to one source, Trump’s rationale is that, “win or lose, we are onto something here. We’ve triggered a base of the population that hasn’t had a voice in a long time.”

Triggered indeed. Many of them angry and bigoted before his campaign, Trump supporters have only become more so under his tutelage.

The poison has even seeped down to America’s children. A Southern Poverty Law Center survey of 2,000 school teachers recently found Trump’s campaign producing an “alarming level of fear and anxiety among children of color” and inflaming racial and ethnic tensions in the classroom. “Teachers have noted an increase in bullying, harassment and intimidation of students whose races, religions or nationalities have been the verbal targets … on the campaign trail.”

Most likely to remain after Trump are the economic anxieties Trump exploited. Globalization and technological displacement will continue to rip away the underpinnings of the bottom half of the population, creating fodder for another demagogue.

The real problem isn’t globalization or technological change per se. It’s that America’s moneyed interests won’t finance policies necessary to reverse their consequences—such as a first-class education for all the nation’s young, wage subsidies that bring all workers up to a livable income, a massive “green” jobs program, and a universal basic income.

Hillary Clinton hasn’t proposed anything remotely on this scale, and House Republicans (who will almost certainly remain in power) wouldn’t go along anyway.

After Trump, our politics seems likely to remain as polarized as before—but divided less between traditional right and left than between establishment and anti-establishment.

Trump will leave the GOP sharply split between its corporate donor class and its working class. Clinton will preside over a party divided only somewhat less dramatically between its own donor class and an increasingly vocal progressive base.

Which raises an intriguing, if unlikely, scenario. What if Trump’s authoritarian populists join with progressive populists to form an anti-establishment third party dedicated to getting big money out of American politics?

The combination could prove an invincible force for wresting back the economy and democracy from the moneyed interests.


It’s not impossible. This has been the strangest election year in modern history, partly because such a large swath of Americans—Republicans, Democrats, and Independents—have concluded the system is rigged in favor of the privileged and powerful.

Trumpism will continue after Trump loses. The open question is whether anything good can be salvaged from its wreckage.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/robert-reich-were-stuck-trumpism-whether-he-wins-or-loses


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Here's more from the one-and-only Robert Reich [from my Facebook feed] ~ Sooz

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I've almost given up trying to correct Trump's lies because every time he opens his mouth he emits more of them. But his speech yesterday in Pheonix on immigration was so trumped-up that it's important to be reminded of the truth. Here are 6 Trump whoppers about immigration:

1. Trump’s claim that “illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year” is pure baloney. In fact, most undocumented workers pay into Social Security and other programs from which they'll never benefit.

2. Trump says Clinton’s plan will provide Social Security to illegal immigrants. False. It won’t.

3. He says Clinton plans to bring in 620,000 new refugees from Syria. Wrong. She doesn’t.

4. Trump describes unauthorized immigrants as aggravated felons, whose crimes include murder. Wrong again. According to U.S. Sentencing Commission data, homicides are a small percent of the crimes committed by non citizens (whether they are in the U.S. illegally or not).

5. He describes unauthorized immigrants as more dangerous than native-born Americans. False. According to FBI data, a smaller percent of undocumented immigrants commit serious crimes than do native-born Americans.

6. Trump says illegal immigration is growing. Baloney. Illegal flows of people across the Southern border in fiscal 2015 were at the lowest levels since 1972, except for in 2011, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Trump continues to repeat these lies and the media aren't adequately refuting them. As a result, many Americans start believing them.

Your thoughts?


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“If I don’t win, I will consider this the single greatest waste of time, energy, and money of anything I’ve ever done,” Trump said at a campaign rally today in Ocala, Florida.

Here in one sentence is the pathological narcissism of Donald J. Trump. To him, running for president isn’t about America. It’s about himself. It’s an investment of his extraordinarily valuable time, energy, and money in building another giant edifice to his ego -- but this is by far the largest he’s ever attempted. And if he loses the election, all that time, energy, and money will have been wasted -- the single worst investment he’s ever made.

And you can bet it won’t be his fault. He will blame it on the media, the Republicans, Hillary Clinton, and the American people.

What do you think?


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You forgot the rigged microphone at the debate. :D


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Well, at least he's entertaining the notion that he may lose. That's a good thing.


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"We was robbed!" ?


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From my Facebook feed ~ I have not yet read the Slate article [live-linked below] that Robert Reich included with his post but I will ~ Sooz

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A powerful man who victimizes women is also likely to victimize anyone around him who won’t succumb to his bullying. That’s why Trump’s sexual predations are they key to understanding his entire character.

For more than a year now, Trump has marketed himself as a strongman – so strong he can single-handedly “make America great again.” But the downside of a strongman is a brutalizer – not just of women but also of anyone who doesn’t give him what he wants. Sexual predators force themselves on other people to assert their dominance. Trump’s history of vilifying, threatening, intimidating, ridiculing, harassing, humiliating, suing, and menacing those who get in his way are aspects of the same personality. A pathological, brutal narcissism has marked all his relationships – with women as with employees, contractors, creditors, competitors, editors, television producers, and critics. He isn’t and never was a successful businessman. He is and has always been a raging bully.

What do you think?

Why Women See Themselves in Donald Trump’s Accusers
Everything Trump says and does aligns with the memories of the men who violated us.


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