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PostPosted: 03/31/15 7:33 am • # 1 
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John McCain is now officially a frigging disaster ~ :angry ~ Sooz

McCain Suggests Israel "Go Rogue," Blow Up Iran Negotiations By Starting War
He made the suggestion during a floor speech.
By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet / March 29, 2015

As Iran talks appear to be coming to a close with a successful agreement that would both lead to the lifting of international sanctions and restrictions that would prevent the country from obtaining nuclear weapons, most in the international community are relieved.

Yet Republicans have teamed up with their counterparts in the Israeli political system to do everything they can to obstruct a deal – with tactics such as drafting new sanctions legislation and warning the Iranian leadership that the nuclear agreement will not outlast President Obama.

But this past week Senator John McCain (R-AZ) ratcheted up this sabotage to a new level. During a floor speech he gave on March 24th, the senator suggested that Israel “go rogue” and that if they don't they may not survive the next 22 months of the Obama presidency:

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McCAIN: The Israelis will need to chart their own path of resistance. On the Iranian nuclear deal, they may have to go rogue. Let's hope their warnings have not been mere bluffs. Israel survived its first 19 years without meaningful U.S. patronage. For now, all it has to do is get through the next 22, admittedly long, months.

Watch it: [video accessible via end link]

http://www.alternet.org/mccain-suggests-israel-go-rogue-blow-iran-negotiations-starting-war


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 7:55 am • # 2 
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'Splains why there's never been peace in the ME.
No one really wants it as long as there are megabucks to be made.


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 8:00 am • # 3 
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oskar576 wrote:
'Splains why there's never been peace in the ME.
No one really wants it as long as there are megabucks to be made.

And other peoples' kids/spouses/relatives to do the fighting and dying ~ :eek

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PostPosted: 03/31/15 8:41 am • # 4 
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That goes without saying, sooz. The few (very few) pols who want peace can't stand up to the machine. Politicians, Popes, etc. get shot when they try.


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 9:40 am • # 5 
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Israel survived its first 19 years without meaningful U.S. patronage.

Who the **** is he kidding?


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 9:40 am • # 6 
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John59 wrote:
Israel survived its first 19 years without meaningful U.S. patronage.

Who the **** is he kidding?


Himself, as usual.


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 10:01 am • # 7 
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Israel is likely to try it. Their biggest problem is that there's not much they can do. They could probably slow the research down a bit by taking out surface emplacements but most of the work is buried so far underground that not even nukes could harm it. The other problem Israel faces is that a blatant attack on Iran, successful or not, would provide Iran with the perfect excuse to tell Israel and the U.S. to drop dead and really go for nuclear weapons. With that kind of provocation I doubt the gruesome twosome would get any support to even maintain the existing sanctions let alone install new ones.

(If Iran really wanted to throw a wrench into the works, what they should do is agree that they will stop all work on nuclear weapons providing Israel destroys its illegally built stockpiles. After all, it's Israel that wants the U.S. to fight a proxy war on its behalf with Iran, not vice versa.)


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 10:12 am • # 8 
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i always figured that men who experienced war would not embrace it so well.

then there is McCain.


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 3:08 pm • # 9 
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"Go rogue"?

GO ROGUE???????

Its been "rogue" for decades ....


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 3:24 pm • # 10 
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i always figured that men who experienced war would not embrace it so well.


There's an interesting psychology at work there. I suspect that, having gone through something so awful they have to convince themselves it was worthwhile/ heroic/ noble, because otherwise it would be even worse.


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 4:51 pm • # 11 
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Cattleman wrote:
i always figured that men who experienced war would not embrace it so well.


There's an interesting psychology at work there. I suspect that, having gone through something so awful they have to convince themselves it was worthwhile/ heroic/ noble, because otherwise it would be even worse.


i can imagine this better with an unjust war....oh wait....that is what McCain was in, wasn't it?


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PostPosted: 03/31/15 6:26 pm • # 12 
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Which is why some vets will defend even unjust wars vehemently - particularly if they were involved.

But I think it is also true, to some extent, for all wars. Its a way to deal with the horror....


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