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PostPosted: 08/21/15 1:25 pm • # 26 
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I'm beginning to think that the entire lot of them aren't the brightest bulbs on the X-mas tree.


I've been thinking about how we sometimes question certain people's intelligence (that's phrasing it more politely than I usually do).

Are they really any less intelligent than the average person? Or is it that the right set of circumstances led them to "religious brainwashing" as Rosanne and Sooz mention?


With the Duggar kids it's been done to them from birth, so easy to do. With adults who were not brainwashed from birth (or a very young age), I can attest that many who buy into this crap are not less intelligent. Perhaps more gullible. Maybe in need of something they can't seem to find in their own lives. I'm not really sure.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 2:11 pm • # 27 
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Do these people all live together in a compound of some kind? I fault the guy for cheating on his wife and for being a hypocrite and being generally dishonest. I think general dishonesty is part and parcel of hyper-religiosity anyway, especially when it's sold on television. Yeah, he grew up in weird circumstances. Lots of us did.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 2:57 pm • # 28 
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Do these people all live together in a compound of some kind? I fault the guy for cheating on his wife and for being a hypocrite and being generally dishonest. I think general dishonesty is part and parcel of hyper-religiosity anyway, especially when it's sold on television. Yeah, he grew up in weird circumstances. Lots of us did.


I think they do live in a compound styled environment. Josh & family recently moved back there after he "resigned" from the "Family, values <whatever>" place.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 3:40 pm • # 29 
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But remember "Give me a child until he is 7 and I'll give you the man".

(Usually attributed to Loyola - the founder of the Jesuits (a highly intellectual Catholic Order) - but I can't find confirmation).

The point being that its not impossible, but it is extremely difficult, for someone to reject beliefs that are drilled into them at a very early age. And doing so isn't just a matter of intelligence or lack of it.

Intelligence is over-rated.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 4:36 pm • # 30 
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But remember "Give me a child until he is 7 and I'll give you the man".

(Usually attributed to Loyola - the founder of the Jesuits (a highly intellectual Catholic Order) - but I can't find confirmation).

The point being that its not impossible, but it is extremely difficult, for someone to reject beliefs that are drilled into them at a very early age. And doing so isn't just a matter of intelligence or lack of it.

Intelligence is over-rated.


Must be my rebellious nature, then.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 4:47 pm • # 31 
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something has bothered me since i saw this headline.

can't they call their church?


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 7:18 pm • # 32 
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They are their own church.


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PostPosted: 08/21/15 7:28 pm • # 33 
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They even have two baseball teams and play against themselves.


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PostPosted: 08/22/15 10:22 am • # 34 
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grampatom wrote:
They are their own church.


seriously?


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PostPosted: 08/22/15 11:54 am • # 35 
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grampatom wrote:
They are their own church.

Best business model ever.


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PostPosted: 08/27/15 7:03 am • # 36 
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another funny tweet:

"Am I the ONLY person secretly wishing that one of the people Josh Dugger had an affair with was a man?"

To be honest, the thought DID cross my mind too. :o


Looks like I could be right. Sort of. This is hilarious and not surprising. Most of the stupid "chat line" are plants. Employees paid to keep people on the phone. $$

Ashley Madison was a bunch of dudes talking to each other, data analysis suggests



The Ashley Madison hack has revealed a lot of interesting things about the men who used the extramarital-dating site, including which cities, states, and universities they're from.

But what about the women?

It turns out, there may not have been very many women. As in, almost none.

Gizmodo editor-in-chief Annalee Newitz analyzed the data from the site's user database and found a lot of suspicious stuff suggesting that nearly all the female accounts were fake, maintained by the company's employees.

First, the official numbers. The info that the hackers published contained about 31 million accounts apparently belonging to men, and about 5 million apparently belonging to women.

But when Newitz dug deeper, she found a bunch of test accounts that ended with ashleymadison.com, suggesting that they were created internally (90% of them were for women), as well as 350 female accounts for people with the same and very unusual last name.

Then she found three really damning pieces of data:
Only 1,492 of the women in the database had ever checked their messages on the site. That's compared with more than 20 million men.
Only 2,409 of the women had ever used the site's chat function, versus more than 11 million men.
Only 9,700 of the women had ever responded to a message from another person on the site, versus almost 6 million men. (This number was greater than the number of women who checked messages because it's possible to answer messages in bulk when you first visit the site, without ever opening your inbox.)

It's possible that most of the women signed up but never did anything.

Either way, Newitz writes, Ashley Madison is a site where tens of millions of men write mail, chat, and spend money for women who aren't there."

The site's parent company, Avid Life Media, did not immediately return a request for comment.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ashley-m ... z3k1J4Feny


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PostPosted: 04/30/21 5:56 pm • # 37 
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Josh again ... Have to admit that when I saw he'd been arrested I assumed it was some sort of financial crime (tax fraud, money laundering, whatever) but this is far more than that (and explains why he's being held without bail)

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“Joshua Duggar, who featured in the reality show “19 Kids and Counting” with his siblings, pleaded not guilty to child pornography charges in Arkansas. Some of the sexually explicit material he downloaded depicted children under 12, prosecutors said.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/30/us/j ... ested.html


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PostPosted: 05/02/21 9:25 am • # 38 
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The Grand Jury indictment against Josh

https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUnc ... sh_duggar/


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PostPosted: 05/02/21 6:10 pm • # 39 
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Isn't Josh Duggar the same one that got dinged with feeling-up his sisters a few years back?


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PostPosted: 05/03/21 5:00 am • # 40 
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Isn't Josh Duggar the same one that got dinged with feeling-up his sisters a few years back?

That's the one.

BTW, he apparently set up a shell company in his wife's name and started transferring the assets under it right after his car lot was raided by the feds in 2019. If that's true it means the assets in that company are not protected from seizure by the feds.

And, if any of the online gossip is true, the family knew an arrest was coming for months now. Whether for tax fraud etc or the kiddy porn I don't know.


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PostPosted: 05/04/21 9:49 am • # 41 
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Looks like Jim Bob is hiring the best

Josh Duggar Hires Lawyer Known For Fighting High-Profile Sex Crimes Cases, Formerly Worked As A Federal Prosecutor


https://radaronline.com/p/josh-duggar-l ... rosecutor/


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PostPosted: 05/13/22 11:23 am • # 42 
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In short - Josh was a very bad boy and deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison

'Worst of the worst': Prosecutors ask court to throw the book at Josh Duggar

Sarah K. Burris

Federal prosecutors are asking courts to give Josh Duggar the maximum sentence in his case. Duggar was found guilty of receipt of child pornography and possession of child pornography in December 2021. Two of the charges were dismissed, so Duggar can only get 20 years as a maximum.

Nonetheless, this is what prosecutors are asking for and they claim that he's the "worst of the worst" when it comes to sex offenders.

Some of the images in Duggar's possession depicted abuse of children as young as toddlers. The prosecutors also asked for sentencing enhancement for violence and for this being a pattern of behavior, citing allegations from his sisters.

A 32-page court document cited by local Arkansas Fox16 says, “the conduct established at trial supports the application of all contested enhancements and establishes that ....

https://www.rawstory.com/josh-duggar-ab ... documents/


And in a related matter

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Jill Duggar Accuses Father Jim Bob Duggar Of Abuse In Shocking Unsealed Court Documents
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Jill Duggar accused her father, Jim Bob, of verbal abuse in newly unsealed court documents from her 2017 lawsuit.

Counting On stars Jill, Jessa, Joy-Anna and Jinger previously sued the city of Springdale and its police department for releasing their private information to the public after their father told local authorities that their brother Josh had molested five minor girls. Jill and Jessa both confessed to law enforcement they were two of the victims involved, but not all of the alleged victims have come forward.

"I saw a whole new side to my dad once my husband and I started making decisions that were best for our family, but not in his best interest," Jill admitted in the unsealed records per The Sun. "Sadly, I realized he had become pretty controlling, fearful and reactionary. He was verbally abusive. Our relationship is not good. It got pretty toxic."

The reality television alum went on to explain that ...

https://okmagazine.com/p/jill-duggar-ac ... documents/


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PostPosted: 05/13/22 3:03 pm • # 43 
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Parasitic pervs.


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PostPosted: 05/13/22 6:21 pm • # 44 
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oskar576 wrote:
Parasitic pervs.


Parasitic, religious pervs at that.


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PostPosted: 05/13/22 6:51 pm • # 45 
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roseanne wrote:
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Parasitic pervs.


Parasitic, religious pervs at that.


Not any religious beliefs I'd ever heard of.


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PostPosted: 05/13/22 7:12 pm • # 46 
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oskar576 wrote:
Parasitic pervs.

Don't forget that Jim Bob spent 4 years in the Arkansas House of Representatives - no idea if that means he's drawing some sort of pension from that or not.


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PostPosted: 05/25/22 4:10 pm • # 47 
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Josh gets 12 years

https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/chri ... in-prison/

Too little. But unless he spends the entirety of his time in solitary the rest of the prisoners will make him "welcome". Child molesters don't do very well in prison.


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PostPosted: 05/27/22 7:31 am • # 48 
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Dies he now want donations of lube instead of money?


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PostPosted: 06/27/22 8:37 am • # 49 
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Josh Duggar transferred to federal facility

https://www.nwahomepage.com/josh-duggar ... -facility/


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Josh Duggar’s ‘special conditions’ of sentencing

https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/josh-d ... entencing/


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