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PostPosted: 03/02/22 6:32 am • # 26 
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169 potential unmarked graves found at St. Bernard’s Indian Residential School in northern Alberta

https://globalnews.ca/news/8652368/albe ... ed-graves/


Do any reports mention that the time period is 63+ years?


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PostPosted: 03/02/22 7:05 am • # 27 
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No idea - but does it matter?


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PostPosted: 03/02/22 7:22 am • # 28 
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shiftless2 wrote:
No idea - but does it matter?


In terms of deaths, it does. I did some digging a couple of years ago and it seems the infantile death rate (under 18 years) in residential schools wasn't much different to that of the general population.

Edit: Infantile deaths were a bit higher in orphanages and significantly higher on reserves. Also, more remote locations had higher rates.

Edit 2: My wife just informed me that near here there's a graveyard with up to 600 unmarked graves from the former County Home. Those were "white folks".


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PostPosted: 03/02/22 1:15 pm • # 29 
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I'm not sure it is reasonable to compare the two, oskar. This was only one acre at one school.

Besides, kids at a "County home" generally weren't forcibly taken from families who were willing and able to care for them-were they? And wouldn't any known family have been notified if/when they died?


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PostPosted: 03/02/22 1:45 pm • # 30 
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Chaos333 wrote:
I'm not sure it is reasonable to compare the two, oskar. This was only one acre at one school.

Besides, kids at a "County home" generally weren't forcibly taken from families who were willing and able to care for them-were they? And wouldn't any known family have been notified if/when they died?


Re County Home: It was poor families who couldn't take care of their kids. What I looked at was child death rates for the period only, not acreage.

I just looked at some Indigenous cemeteries... many of the graves are unmarked and uncared for.

I'm not trying to minimize the negative effect of the Residential Schools but one needs to put it in context of the era. County Homes were just as bad. Some County Homes were even workhouses.


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PostPosted: 04/10/22 7:04 am • # 31 
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And south of the border

Following Canada’s lead, U.S. awaits results of Indigenous boarding school probe


https://globalnews.ca/news/8749569/u-s- ... stigation/

"Interesting" that they're being referred to as "boarding schools" - guess it sounds a little less discriminatory than "residential schools".


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PostPosted: 04/11/22 9:23 pm • # 32 
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I'm just waiting for Captain Sparkly Sox to issue still another tearful apology along with another gigantic cheque which, in another couple of years, he will repeat and then rinse and repeat again. The Inidans keep claiming they want to live the old ways but they also want us to build them still more houses, give them first shot at Covicd vaccinations, install new water filtration systems and, just, in general let them live nice nice middle class lives in the middle of nowhere where they don't have to do a lick of work for it.


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PostPosted: 04/20/22 2:55 pm • # 33 
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And it continues

Ottawa funding more searches for unmarked graves at former N.S. residential school


https://globalnews.ca/news/8772185/sipe ... ouncement/


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PostPosted: 04/24/22 5:08 am • # 34 
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'Devastating to any human being': Jail cell found inside former B.C. residential school
Maggie Parkhill

In a tour of the site of a former residential school in B.C. that is now being used as a daycare and office space for his nation, a survivor found a jail cell with a small bed and toilet.

Chief Ralph Leon Jr. of the Sts’ailes First Nation told APTN reporters he was forcibly taken from his community to the St. Mary's Indian Residential School when he was 10 years old.

On the tour, APTN reporters and Leon discovered the jail cell, which looks out onto a children’s playground. He said he didn’t previously known it was there.

"I knew about certain places," Leon said. "But we weren't allowed there and we didn't know."

APTN was not able to confirm if this jail cell was from the residential school era, but other survivors from across Canada have testified that they recall jail cells in other residential schools.

St. Mary's was first founded as a boarding school in 1863, but then re-opened as a residential school in 1882. It was officially closed in 1984.

On the tour of the site, Leon said ....

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/devastati ... -1.5873120


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PostPosted: 04/26/22 11:06 pm • # 35 
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Oh the horror! Send them a cheque. It's the only cure.


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PostPosted: 05/12/22 11:20 am • # 36 
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Report Catalogs Abuse of Native American Children at Former Government Schools
Interior Secretary Deb Haaland called for a review last year, after the discovery of hundreds of unmarked graves of children who attended similar schools in Canada.


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By Mark Walker
May 11, 2022

An initial investigation commissioned by Interior Secretary Deb Haaland cataloged some of the brutal conditions that Native American children endured at more than 400 boarding schools that the federal government forced them to attend between 1819 and 1969. The inquiry was an initial step, Ms. Haaland said, toward addressing the “intergenerational trauma” that the policy left behind.

An Interior Department report released on Wednesday highlighted the abuse of many of the children at the government-run schools, with instances of beatings, withholding of food and solitary confinement. It also identified burial sites at more than 50 of the former schools, and said that “approximately 19 federal Indian boarding schools accounted for over 500 American Indian, Alaska Native and Native Hawaiian child deaths.” The number of recorded deaths is expected to grow, the report said.

The report is the first step in a comprehensive review that Ms. Haaland, the first Native American cabinet secretary, announced in June after the discovery of hundreds of unmarked graves of children who attended similar schools in Canada provoked a national reckoning there.

Beginning in 1869 and until the 1960s, hundreds of thousands of Native American children were taken from their homes and families and placed in the boarding schools, which were operated by the government and churches.


There were 20,000 children at the schools by 1900; by 1925, the number had more than tripled, according to the National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition.

The discovery of the unmarked graves in Canada last year — 215 in British Columbia, 750 more in Saskatchewan — led Ms. Haaland to announce that her agency would search the grounds of former schools in the United States and identify any remains. Ms. Haaland’s grandparents attended such schools.


“The consequences of federal Indian boarding school policies — including the intergenerational trauma caused by the family separation and cultural eradication inflicted upon generations of children as young as 4 years old — are heartbreaking and undeniable,” Ms. Haaland said during a news conference. “It is my priority to not only give voice to the survivors and descendants of federal Indian boarding school policies, but also to address the lasting legacies of these policies so Indigenous peoples can continue to grow and heal.”

The 106-page report, put together by Bryan Newland, the agency’s assistant secretary for Indian affairs, concludes that further investigation is needed to better understand the lasting effects of the boarding school system on American Indians, Alaska Natives and Native Hawaiians. Assimilation was only one of the system’s goals, the report said; the other was “territorial dispossession of Indigenous peoples through the forced removal and relocation of their children.”

Mr. Newland said there is not a single American Indian, Alaskan Native or Native Hawaiian in the country whose life has not been affected by the schools.




“Federal Indian boarding schools have had a lasting impact on Native people and communities across America,” said Mr. Newland. “That impact continues to influence the lives of countless families, from the breakup of families and tribal nations to the loss of languages and cultural practices and relatives.”

The government has yet to provide a forum or opportunity for survivors or descendants of survivors of the boarding schools or their families to describe their experiences at the schools. In attempts to assimilate Native American children, the schools gave them English names, cut their hair and forbade them from speaking their languages and practicing their religions or cultural traditions.

Deborah Parker, chief executive of the National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition, said the children who died at government-run boarding schools deserve to be identified and their remains brought home. Ms. Parker said the efforts to find them won’t end until the United States fully accounts for the genocide committed against Native American children.

“Our children had names, our children had families, our children had their own languages, our children had their own regalia, prayers and religions before Indian Boarding Schools violently took them away,” Ms. Parker said.

Sitting with Ms. Haaland at the news conference was Jim Labelle, a survivor who spent 10 years in a government-run boarding school. Mr. Labelle said he was eight years old when he started there. His brother was six.

“I learned everything about the European American culture,” he said. “It’s history, language, civilizations, math, science, but I didn’t know anything about who I was. As a native person, I came out not knowing who I was.”

Ms. Haaland also announced plans for a yearlong, cross-country tour called The Road to Healing, during which survivors of the boarding school system could share their stories.



The Canadian government has initiated similar efforts and allocated about 320 million Canadian dollars for communities affected by the boarding school system, burial site searches and commemoration for victims.

Beth Wright, staff attorney at the Native American Rights Fund, said she hopes Congress passes two bills currently pending in the House and Senate and truly listens to any victim who may speak up.

“I think the key next step is really communicating with tribal nations and survivors of Indian boarding schools to see how this support is impacting their communities,” Ms. Wright said. “We would like to see tribal communities generate their healing effort and their efforts toward truth and reconciliation.”


Researchers Identify Dozens of Native Students Who Died at Nebraska School
Nov. 17, 2021

U.S. to Search Former Native American Schools for Children’s Remains
June 23, 2021

With Discovery of Unmarked Graves, Canada’s Indigenous Seek Reckoning
June 26, 2021


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/us/p ... c5781282bc


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PostPosted: 05/15/22 4:23 am • # 37 
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"The report notes the investigation will likely "reveal the approximate number of Indian children who died at Federal Indian boarding schools to be in the thousands or tens of thousands.”

U.S. counts Indian boarding school deaths for first time but leaves key questions unanswered
The Interior Department documented more than 500 deaths of Indigenous children, but it's far from a complete count. "We have a long way to go," one expert said.

Graham Lee Brewer

At least 500 Native American, Alaska Native and Native Hawaiian children died while attending Indian boarding schools run or supported by the U.S. government, a highly anticipated Interior Department report said Wednesday. The report identified over 400 schools and more than 50 gravesites and said more gravesites would likely be found.

The report is the first time in U.S. history that the government has attempted to comprehensively research and acknowledge the magnitude of the horrors it inflicted on Native American children for decades. But it falls well short of some independent estimates of deaths and does not address how the children died or who was responsible. The report also sheds little new light on the physical and sexual abuse generations of Indigenous children endured at the schools, which were open for more than 150 years, starting in the early 1800s.

The report and an accompanying news release acknowledge the harms to Indigenous children but stop short of offering an apology from the federal government, which tribal leaders have been requesting for decades. Last month, Pope Francis apologized for the Roman Catholic Church’s role in Canada’s boarding school system, and First Nation leaders there are asking him to apologize in person when he visits the country this summer.

Interior Secretary Deb Haaland's grandparents were both 8 years old when they were forced to attend boarding school, she said Wednesday at a news conference. “Many children like them never made it back to their homes. Each of those children is a missing family member, a person who was not able to live out their purpose on this Earth because they lost their lives as part of this terrible system,” Haaland said, holding back tears.

The trauma caused by federal Indian boarding school policies — including the separation of children as young as 4 years old from their families — dates back generations and is ongoing, Halaand said. The report is the first step toward ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/in ... -rcna28284


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PostPosted: 05/15/22 5:34 am • # 38 
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We have nearly 600 (estimated) unmarked graves near here.
No panic though ...... they were mostly poor, white children and women from the county home (workhouse)..


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PostPosted: 06/17/22 9:57 am • # 39 
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It's not just graves

92-year-old charged following investigation into historic sexual abuse at Manitoba residential school

Charles Lefebvre

Manitoba RCMP have charged a 92-year-old Winnipeg man in connection with alleged sexual abuse that happened at a residential school more than 50 years ago.

Retired Father Arthur Masse of Winnipeg was arrested on Thursday and charged with one count of indecent assault in connection with an allegation of sexual abuse at Fort Alexander Residential School.

RCMP said the alleged incident occurred between ...

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/92-year-old ... -1.5951416


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PostPosted: 07/15/22 7:18 am • # 40 
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From my FB page

New archeological evidence contradicts unmarked graves narrative

By Cosmin Dzsurdzsa

New archaeological evidence from the former Kamloops Indian Residential School raises more questions about the narrative that 215 “probable burials” of Indigenous children were discovered at the site.

The evidence was unearthed by a professional architect with expertise in aerial photography and published by former anthropology professor Hymie Rubenstein in the REAL Indian Residential Schools Newsletter. The architect reported his findings under the pseudonym Kam Res to avoid retaliation. Res’ findings have not been peer-reviewed.

Other academics who have raised questions about the Kamloops graves have been cancelled and targeted by the media. Mount Royal University professor Frances Widdowson was removed from her tenured position due to ...

https://tnc.news/2022/07/14/evidence-unmarked-graves/

The website where this was posted is more than slightly right wing so be warned ....


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PostPosted: 07/15/22 9:25 am • # 41 
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Are you sure #40 isn't from the Beaverton?


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PostPosted: 07/15/22 10:47 am • # 42 
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oskar576 wrote:
Are you sure #40 isn't from the Beaverton?

That's why I said "be warned". If you go to the tnc home page you'll see that it's about as far right as you can get.

As I said, it turned up on my FB feed - old school mate (haven't seen him since junior high) has turned seriously right wing.


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PostPosted: 07/15/22 12:05 pm • # 43 
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So when are someof these "graves" to be exhumed to provide some type of evidence?


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PostPosted: 07/15/22 12:38 pm • # 44 
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oskar576 wrote:
So when are some of these "graves" to be exhumed to provide some type of evidence?

That's the only way to settle things - dig up a couple of the graves supposedly shown by ground penetrating radar and see what, if anything, is there.


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PostPosted: 07/19/22 3:07 pm • # 45 
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42 Catholic properties sold to pay abuse survivors at former Newfoundland orphanage

The Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador has approved the sale of 42 properties belonging to the local Roman Catholic Church to pay survivors of sexual abuse at the former Mount Cashel orphanage.
Among the properties changing hands is the sprawling, 167-year-old Basilica of St. John the Baptist, which overlooks the province's capital.

It was sold to the Basilica Heritage Foundation, a non-profit that has pledged to maintain the building as a place of worship.

Archbishop Peter Hundt says only a few of the churches sold so far were purchased by buyers with intentions to maintain the buildings as Catholic churches.

A message from Hundt read at masses over the weekend said 70 more church-owned properties across the island of Newfoundland will also be put up for sale.

The archdiocese was left liable for abuse committed at the St. John's orphanage between the 1940s and 1960s following a Supreme Court of Canada decision last year, and settlements are expected to top $50 million.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/42-catholic ... trueAnthem

And I will guarantee that is barely scratching the surface


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