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PostPosted: 03/27/17 9:12 am • # 1 
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In an effort to keep related information together, and since I'm convinced the DiC/Russia investigation is gonna blow wide open, this thread is to capture the progress of that investigation ~

With shiftless' permission, I'd like to copy his most recent post in our Donald Trump's businesses owe $1.8bn to more than 150 different institutions, new study suggests thread into this thread ~

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PostPosted: 03/27/17 11:25 am • # 2 
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My politico muse speaks ~ I believe a single coincidence can happen ... but I have a serious problem believing a series of coincidences happen together ~ :ey ~ Sooz

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This is Christopher Steele, the ex MI6 agent who compiled the now infamous dossier on our Pusillanimous Putz of a President. For those who've been in a coma, let's review some of it.

The dossier contained both allegations of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, and "kompromat" (compromising intelligence) regarding Trump personally. One of which was Trump's propensity for hookers and stinky waterfalls. That one may or may not be true, but it's far less interesting than the non-salacious, political allegations.

Steele compiled this intel over time for an anonymous fellow Republican (my money's on Jeb Bush) who wanted dirt on the Donald. Steele ended up discovering things that were so alarming that he took it directly to the FBI, who are now investigating it, Trump, Bannon, Flynn, Manafort, Page, Breitbart, InfoWars and who knows who else.

The biggest bombshell from Steele's dossier (that we know of thus far) was the following allegation: The Russians offered the Trump campaign a veritable quid pro quo: We'll hack Hillary Clinton's emails, funnel it through an accused rapist on the lam, Julian Assange, who will then leak them in a timely manner that will damage her chances for winning the 2016 presidential election.

In exchange for this gift, the Russians asked the Trump campaign to A) Tone down any criticism of their invasion of Ukraine and seizure of the Crimea, and B) Drive a wedge between the members of the NATO alliance—and they even went so far as to suggest singling out individual NATO members who are behind in their "dues" as dead weight as a potential talking point.

Fact 1: One of the items stricken from the language of the GOP platform last year (just prior to the first appearance of the dossier) was the existing criticism of Russia's hostility towards Ukraine and the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula. Also deleted was one specific phrase regarding aid to Ukraine. The Trump campaign pressured the GOP Platform Committee to remove "provide lethal defensive weapons" and substitute "provide appropriate assistance."

Fact 2: Trump can't say a negative word about Vladimir Putin under any circumstances, even when fellow madman Turkeyneck O'Reilly points out that Putin's critics are being rubbed out on a daily basis.

Fact 3: Trump has made good on his part of the alleged deal to drive a wedge between the members of NATO. According to multiple sources, he just last week personally handed Chancellor Angela Merkel an "invoice" in the amount of £300B.

Done, done & done. I don't know if Donald Trump likes golden showers or not, nor do I care. But when someone from MI6 uncovers allegations so damaging to the security of the United States of America, that rather than turning it over to the client who retained him he turns it over to the FBI and it all falls into place exactly as written in the dossier... then heads must roll.

To all my friends, Democrat and Republican alike, this scandal is tantamount to a 9.1 on the Richter scale. Watergate was a scuffle compared to this.

I know coincidences happen, but ask yourself: Have Christopher Steele's assertions of last August proven true or haven't they?

Is it POSSIBLE Donald Trump would just happen to unexpectedly turn against NATO without being pressured to do so? Sure, it's possible.

Is it POSSIBLE that the Trump campaign would just happen to call for the deletion of the Ukraine defense language from the official party platform when they did without being influenced from outside? Yeah, it's possible.

Is it POSSIBLE that Trump would start yammering about fellow NATO nations being delinquent in their membership contributions, as spelled out in Steele's dossier without being pressured to do so? Yes, it's possible.

Is it POSSIBLE that this is all just an incredible coincidence, and Steele just happened to get lucky? No. It's not. The only possible explanation is that Vladimir Putin owns Donald Trump. And nothing good can come from this alliance for anybody on Earth... except for Vladimir Putin.

#LockHimUp and #ThrowAwayTheKey

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PostPosted: 03/27/17 4:55 pm • # 3 
Once is an "oops".

Twice is a coincidence.

Three times is a pattern.

Russia's penetration into the highest offices of the land is too deep to be an "oops".


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Twenty years from now, when they're trying to teach this stuff in history class, do you think that the students will even believe that this shit happened?

‘Stop shaking your head!’: Sean Spicer yells at black reporter while fumbling through denial of Trump’s Russia ties

Sean Spicer managed to sound even more unhinged during his Tuesday press briefing in his response to a reporter’s question about Russia.

When April Ryan, White House correspondent for Baltimore-based American Urban Radio Networks, asked Spicer what the administration was doing to improve its perception by the American public in light of the ongoing investigation over the Trump campaign’s communications with Russian government officials, Spicer blew up.

“If the president puts Russian salad dressing on his salad tonight, that’s somehow a ‘Russian connection,'” Spicer said defensively. “I’m sorry if that disgusts you. You’re shaking your head… at some point, the facts are what they are.”

However, Ryan continued to press Spicer for an answer to her original question, speaking over Spicer’s deflections. The question was valid, given that news broke this week that Trump’s approval rating has dipped to historic lows, making him even less popular than former George W. Bush in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, according to Gallup.

“We’re gonna keep doing everything we’re doing,” Spicer said in response to Ryan repeating her question, reiterating the administration’s commitments to fulfilling campaign pledges.

Ryan then gave up on asking that question and asked another, about Trump’s meeting with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Ryan asked Spicer whether or not Trump’s opinion of Rice has changed since 2006, when he referred to the former top diplomat as a “bitch.” Rice, in turn, rooted for Trump’s defeat on Election Day last year when asked about her reaction to Trump’s comments.

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SEAN SPICER: “April, hold on. It seems like you’re hell-bent on whatever image you want tells about this White House stays, because at the end of the day–”

APRIL RYAN: “The president called her that name. I am just–”

SPICER: “But, you know what, you’re asking me a question, and I’m gonna answer. Which is the president — I’m sorry, please stop shaking your head again. But at some point, the reality is the president continues to reach out to individuals…”


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As NBC’s Bradd Jaffy pointed out, Ryan simply remarked on the exchange with a one-word tweet that read, “Lawd!!!”

Ryan was the same reporter whom Trump suddenly asked — in the middle of a White House press conference — to arrange a meeting between the Congressional Black Caucus and the Trump administration. The request was seen as particularly offensive, as it came with the assumption that since Ryan was African American, she was somehow connected to the caucus.

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This is the article shiftless posted in another thread that I mentioned in the op ~ since the Russia connections are exploding in all directions, this read gives a very solid background ~ Sooz

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From Russia, With Oil
Explosive Details in the Trump-Russia Investigation


In the past week, there have been several startling revelations about the investigations into Donald Trump, his closest allies, and their ties to Russia. Not only has the existence of two investigations, one by the FBI and one by the House Intelligence Committee, been confirmed, but there is increasing information as to just what is being investigated: an alleged deal for Trump to advance Russian interests as President in exchange for 19% of the Russian state oil company Rosneft and Russian intelligence assistance in winning the election.

This news has been spread over a tremendous number of articles and even Twitter threads, rather than in a single big headline. So today I would like to pull together all of these reports, and make it clear what things are known for certain, what things have been reported and sourced but not confirmed, and what things are still speculation.

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In, and Out, Like Flynn
Why a former three-star general may be turning state’s evidence


At the center of today’s news is Michael Flynn, a retired three-star U.S. Army general, who later worked on Trump’s campaign as a private citizen, and then served for 24 days as National Security Advisor. While he was working for Trump’s campaign, he was also a highly-paid agent of the Turkish government, receiving over $500,000 to represent their interests. (He admitted this after it became known online earlier this month, and last week filed the paperwork to retroactively declare himself as a foreign agent as required by law.)

He is also under investigation by the Army as to whether he was being paid (illegally) by the Russian government in 2015. (Even though he retired in 2014, military officers may be called back to active duty at any time, and so are not allowed to act as foreign agents without Congressional approval.) It is definitely known that he was paid over $33,000 by Russia Today for a “speaking engagement” back in December 2015; it’s a question for the lawyers whether such payments alone would qualify him as a foreign agent, since RT is only a quasi-official arm of the government. The Army investigation is separate and predates this.

Flynn was caught on (legal) FBI wiretaps, illegally discussing U.S. sanctions with the Russian ambassador last December. Worse for him, he lied about it to quite a few people, and when it came out, this forced his resignation as National Security Advisor.

Flynn’s Turkey angle is even more fascinating. The Wall Street Journal reported, per the testimony of former CIA Director James Woolsey — who was present as an advisor to Flynn’s company — that during the campaign, Flynn attended a meeting with senior ministers from the Turkish government where they discussed (illegally) kidnapping enemies of Turkish President Erdogan living in the United States, and shipping them over to Turkey in the dead of night — including Fethullah Gülen, the Turkish cleric (who now lives in Pennsylvania) that Erdogan considers his greatest political enemy.

The reason Flynn’s work as a double, and possibly triple, agent is so interesting (apart from the obvious) is that in the past few days, several sources have started to report that Flynn has flipped and decided to turn state’s evidence. Through a spokesman, Flynn has stated “no comment.”

What makes this so interesting, of course, is that investigators don’t flip witnesses unless there are bigger fish to fry. And there are few fish bigger than the National Security Advisor.

The Mayflower Meetings
Central to the question of who these bigger fish might be is the so-called “Mayflower Meeting.” This was eloquently summarized by journalist Seth Abramson in a detailed (and heavily-sourced) Twitter thread on March 23rd.

The “Mayflower Meeting” was an April 27th meeting at the Mayflower Hotel, immediately before Trump gave his first foreign policy speech. In this speech, written by Russian lobbyist Richard Burt, Trump promised to “make a deal under my administration that’s great for America but also good for Russia.”

The speech, and the meeting before it, were organized by Trump’s newly-minted campaign chair Paul Manafort and Jacob Heilbrunn, the event coordinator for the Center for the National Interest, a conservative think-tank closely aligned with the Kremlin. The meeting was a 24-person “cocktail hour” held in the Mayflower’s VIP Senate Room. Trump was there, and according to Heilbrunn, so were (now Attorney-General) Jeff Sessions, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, Trump’s previous campaign chair Corey Lewandowski, Iran-Contra figure (!) Bud McFarlane, and Paul Manafort. Also present were four ambassadors — from Russia, Italy, Singapore, and the Philippines — and key figures from Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company. (The Philippines are one of Rosneft’s primary expansion targets for coming years.)
(Paul Manafort is an interesting character: prior to being Trump’s campaign manager, he worked as a “fixer” for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, for the (pro-Russian) Ukrainian government, and for Ferdinand Marcos’ regime in the Philippines. Manafort has been under investigation since last August for laundering illegal payments he received from the Ukrainian government, and documents provided to CNN last week by a Ukrainian lawmaker may prove to be a smoking gun.)

It is not clear precisely what was discussed at this meeting, but several things are known for certain. Between December 5th and 7th of 2016, 19.5% of Rosneft was sold through a labyrinth of shell companies to parties unknown. The key brokers in this deal were Singapore, Italy, and the Qatari company Gencore, which on December 10th stated that it had received 0.54% of the company as its fee for facilitating the deal. What was particularly surprising about this number was that back in July of 2016, the Steele Dossier reported that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft in exchange for lifting U.S. sanctions on Russia. While there has been a great deal of talk about how nobody should trust the Steele Dossier, it’s very curious that the exact amount of the missing Rosneft shares was described publicly by this dossier five months before the deal.

The allegation is an explicit quid pro quo: Trump would as President further Russian interests, eliminating oil sanctions and ratifying Russian control of parts of Ukraine, in exchange for 19% of Rosneft and Russian intelligence assistance in winning the election.
A few other things were happening during those same few days in early December. Michael Flynn, Jared Kushner, and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak were meeting secretly in Trump Tower — so secretly that Kislyak was smuggled in through a freight elevator.
(This meeting between Flynn and Kislyak was one of the ones which led to Flynn’s resignation.) President Obama announced that he intended to impose sanctions on Russia, in retaliation for Russian interference in the election; he did so on the 29th. Putin, to everyone’s surprise, did not retaliate as he had threatened to do. It has been widely speculated that Flynn’s reassurances were key to this.
(It is also noteworthy that during his confirmation hearing as Attorney-General in February, Jeff Sessions denied any meetings with Russian representatives during the campaign. When Sessions admitted that this was false after it was revealed that he had done so at least twice, his revised statement to Congress still did not disclose the Mayflower Meeting.)

The Russian interference in the election which Obama was retaliating for was the hacking of e-mail servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Clinton campaign, and the release of embarrassing e-mails at various times throughout the election.
(For example, revealing the DNC leadership’s preference for Clinton over opponent Bernie Sanders immediately prior to the Democratic Convention in July, or the releases via WikiLeaks of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s e-mails in October.) According to the White House, the Treasury Department, and the CIA, these hacks were the joint work of the FSB (the Russian equivalent of the FBI) and the GRU (Russian military intelligence).

The above is what we know for certain about the Mayflower Meeting. The allegation which Abramson suspects may be at the center of the FBI investigation is that the meeting is where an explicit quid pro quo was negotiated: Trump would as President further Russian interests, eliminating oil sanctions and ratifying Russian control of strategic territory in Ukraine, in exchange for 19% of Rosneft and Russian intelligence assistance in winning the election. We do not know that this is true; what we have above is a collection of very interesting circumstantial evidence. It will be detailed investigation by professionals, and testimony of witnesses (like Michael Flynn) who may have been present in person for parts of this, which determines whether or not this is the case.

The Investigations

There appear to be two primary investigations going on right now: one by the FBI, which FBI Director James Comey testified about to Congress a few days ago, and one by the House Intelligence Committee, chaired by Devin Nunes, a close ally of Trump’s.

These two investigations have very different tones. The Congressional one is (unsurprisingly) highly political. But that doesn’t mean it can’t get weird; last Tuesday night, Nunes was traveling in an Uber with one of his aides when he received a message on his phone. He promptly got out of the car and vanished, only to turn up Wednesday morning announcing that, after reviewing classified reports, he found that “the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition.” He then went over to the White House to brief Trump.

That last part is really the key to the story; Nunes’ independence from Trump has been, to say the least, questioned. Nunes was on Trump’s transition team, and Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee have suggested that his source for this information was the White House itself (!), released to create a distraction from Comey’s testimony that Monday.

The FBI investigation, on the other hand, has happened mostly quietly, as investigations usually do — except for a surprising number of leaks, such as the revelation of Flynn’s telephone conversations with Kisylak which prompted Flynn’s resignation. This may be related to the political pressures on that investigation: the FBI, after all, reports to Attorney-General Jeff Sessions, one of the figures at the center of the investigation. Despite Sessions’ agreement to recuse himself from this investigation, there is likely to be considerable pressure not to release anything which may be harmful to the administration.

As a result, there are two investigations with very different political flavors, and it is quite possible that they will act at cross-purposes in the coming months.

If Flynn flipped, it seems that he has been flipped by the FBI investigation — which makes it interesting that immediately afterwards, Paul Manafort announced that he would testify to the Congressional investigation.

In Summary

The things we know for certain:

Michael Flynn was a Turkish foreign agent during the Presidential campaign. He also received money from Russia, and the Army is investigating whether he was in fact a Russian agent as well. During this time, and while a private citizen, he negotiated with the Russian ambassador about lifting U.S. sanctions against Russia. Revelations of these negotiations (and his deceit about their existence) prompted his resignation as National Security Advisor.

Paul Manafort, prior to being head of Donald Trump’s campaign, was a long-time political operative for a Russian oligarch, for the (pro-Russian) Ukrainian government, and for Ferdinand Marcos’ regime in the Philippines. He is the subject of a Ukrainian investigation into receiving illegal payments and money laundering.

On April 27th, Trump, several of his senior aides, and the ambassadors of Russia, Italy, Singapore, and the Philippines met at the Mayflower Hotel. Shortly afterwards, Trump gave his first foreign policy speech, with a strongly pro-Russian message. The speech was written by Richard Burt, a former Russian oil lobbyist.

In July, the Steele Dossier reported that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft in exchange for lifting U.S. sanctions against Russia. This information was impossible to verify at the time and received little attention.

Also starting in July, a sequence of leaks of information stolen in computer hacks of the DNC and Clinton campaign were released at strategic moments, such as just before the Democratic Convention and just before the general election. Several branches of the U.S. government stated that these hacks were executed by Russian intelligence, and Obama imposed sanctions on Russia in retaliation.

In early December, 19.5% of the Russian state oil company Rosneft was sold to a web of shell companies, with Italy, Singapore, and Qatar acting as brokers. The Qatari brokers said that they received 0.54% of the company as their commission. The actual owners of the remaining 19% are unknown. During the same dates, Michael Flynn, Jared Kushner, and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak were having secret meetings at Trump Tower.

Jeff Sessions, then a U.S. Senator and senior Trump campaign member, and now Attorney-General, lied to Congress by saying that he did not meet with representatives of the Russian government during the campaign. After he admitted this and disclosed the meetings, the disclosures did not include the Mayflower Meeting, even though the event organizer has stated unequivocally that Sessions was there.
The things which have been reported with evidence, but which are not fully confirmed:

During the campaign, Michael Flynn attended a meeting with senior Turkish leaders, where the subject was planning to (illegally) kidnap enemies of the Turkish government living in America, and bring them over to Turkey. The evidence for this is former CIA Director James Woolsey’s description of the event (at which he was present) to the Wall Street Journal.

Michael Flynn may have decided to turn state’s evidence and testify as part of the FBI investigation. Reports of this have circulated online, and Flynn has responded with a “no comment.” The truth of this remains unclear.

The things which are suspected, and which are possibly the ultimate meat of the investigations:

The Mayflower Meeting, and the related meetings at Trump Tower, included an explicit quid-pro-quo deal in which Donald Trump would further Russian interests as President, in exchange for personally receiving some fraction of Rosneft, as well as operational assistance from Russian intelligence (in the form of timed releases of stolen information) to win the election.

This allegation is by far the most extraordinary one ever leveled against a U.S. President. Nixon was accused of covering up a burglary; Reagan, of running illegal arms deals to funnel covert money to insurgents. Never before has there been the suggestion that a sitting president has actually been suborned by a foreign power, much less that this foreign power actively worked to install him in office.

The information the public has so far is very damning against some Trump aides (such as Flynn), potentially very damning against others (such as Manafort), and is “circumstantial but intriguing” with respect to the core allegation. What needs to happen next is an open and public investigation of these matters: specifically, of the conduct of Michael Flynn, Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, Jeff Sessions, Donald Trump, and their other allies and associates with respect to illegal payments from the Russian government.

The practical question which comes next is how the investigations will proceed. If the Nunes investigation is politically compromised, it might try to do a public “investigation” whose purpose is to exonerate the administration and focus blame on individuals such as Flynn in order to discredit their testimony elsewhere. The FBI investigation’s greatest risk is that the FBI, and the prosecutors who would pursue a case, ultimately report to Attorney-General Sessions, and one can expect substantial open and covert pressure from the administration not to release any damaging information. (It is fair to suspect that such pressure already exists, and may be related to the unusually high number of leaks from that investigation.) If a damning report were to be released by this investigation, it might put sufficient pressure on Congress that the course of its investigation might change considerably. (And, of course, only Congress is empowered to act against a sitting President, via impeachment and trial)

We must watch these developments diligently.

Numerous links in original article.

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PostPosted: 03/30/17 10:48 am • # 6 
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As you'll see, this is a "two-fer" ... David Kurtz's "teaser" followed by the report ~ since the House Intelligence Committee screwed up so badly/blatantly, the Senate Intelligence Committee is wading in ~ personally, I'd much prefer a truly independent investigation, but the report leads me to believe that BOTH John Warner and Richard Burr will play by the rules laid out below ~ time will tell ~ emphasis/bolding below [except for the section titles] is mine ~ Sooz

Shit Just Got Real
By David Kurtz Published March 29, 2017, 6:27 PM EDT

The Senate Intelligence Committee examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election may turn out to be the seminal investigation of the Trump presidency. This afternoon’s press conference by the chair and ranking member put Trump himself squarely in the crosshairs and, in stark contrast to the circus on the House side, suggested a seriousness of purpose that the Trump White House won’t be able to parry with bombast and misdirection. No congressional committee investigation is perfect or pure, but clearly the Senate probe is where the action will be. Here’s what we learned.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/shit-just-got-real

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Everything We Learned Today About The Senate Intel Committee’s Russia Probe
By Allegra Kirkland Published March 29, 2017, 6:06 PM EDT

One thing was made crystal clear in a Wednesday press briefing on the Senate Intelligence Committee’s probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election: this investigation is a very big and very serious deal.

In an hour-long appearance, committee Chair Richard Burr (R-NC) and Vice-Chair Mark Warner (D-VA) framed their probe as one of most ambitious investigative efforts ever taken on by a congressional committee. Burr, a 22-year veteran of Capitol Hill, framed the investigation as “one of the biggest” he’s seen in his tenure in Washington, D.C.

Warner concurred, saying, “When we started this, we saw the scope, what was involved, I said it was the most important thing I have ever taken on in my public life. I believe that more firmly now.”

Their solemn assurances to investigate the full scope of Russia’s involvement, to look into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russian officials, and to produce a truly bipartisan report on their findings offered a stark contrast from the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation, led by Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA). The House’s probe came to a standstill this week over Nunes’ overly close relationship with the President, and he and ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) haven’t appeared together publicly in days.

Here are the key takeaways about the Senate committee’s investigation from Wednesday’s press conference:

Whether Trump was involved is the probe’s core question

Asked if there was evidence of “direct links” suggesting the President played any role in Russia’s interference, Burr said that was the ultimate question the committee would seek to answer.

“We know that our challenge is to answer that question for the American people in our conclusions to this investigation,” said Burr, who noted that he voted for Trump in November.

He and Warner also said it was too early to definitively reject coordination between Trump’s campaign team and Russian officials, saying they would “let this process go through before we form any opinions.”

The White House hasn’t interfered in or coordinated with the probe

Warner said he has seen “no evidence” to suggest that the White House is “interfering in the integrity of this investigation,” pointing to Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner’s offer to be interviewed by the committee as a “good sign.”

“If we see any attempt to stifle us with information or cut off the intelligence professionals giving us the access we need, you’ll hear from us,” he added.

In response to a reporter’s question, Burr also said that he has not coordinated with the White House to define his investigation’s scope.

Russia’s election meddling goes beyond the U.S.

The senators stated Wednesday that Russia is actively working to undermine or interfere with election campaigns underway in several countries outside the United States, including Germany, Montenegro, the Netherlands and France.

“We feel part of our responsibility is to educate the rest of the world about what’s going on because it’s now into character assassination of candidates,” Warner said.

He pointed to France’s upcoming presidential election, in which Marine LePen, a far-right politician and ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, is a top contender.

“I think it’s safe by everybody’s judgment that the Russians are actively involved in the French elections,” he said.

This will be different from the House investigation

Burr and Warner went out of their way to put distance between their probe and that of the House Intelligence Committee.

“This investigation’s scope will go wherever the intelligence leads it,” Burr said in his opening remarks. “And contrary to maybe popular belief, we’re partners to see that this is completed and that we’ve got a product at the end of the day that we can have bipartisanship in supporting.”

The senators emphasized information sharing between all members of the committee and reiterated their agreement to issue subpoenas to desired witnesses if need be.

In perhaps the most pointed dig at the House’s investigation, Burr said he would always share sources with his Democratic counterpart.

“He usually knows my sources before I do,” the chairman said.

Nunes has vowed to “never” share his confidential sources, even with the rest of his committee.

The probe is looking at the role of “fake news”

Warner said one of the most alarming findings so far in his estimation is the use of paid Internet trolls who promote false news stories and target them to specific geographic areas.

Saying that those trolls could have targeted states where the margin of victory was razor-thin, like Wisconsin and Michigan, with negative stories about Hillary Clinton in the run-up to the election, Warner vowed the committee has “got to find this out.”

He also noted that searches for terms like “Google election hacking” in the days leading up to and following the election would result in stories from Russian propaganda sites.

The probe will not look at changes to the GOP platform

“That’s not in the scope of the investigation,” Burr said when asked if he would look at changes made to the 2016 Republican Party platform. Language in one GOP delegate’s proposal to have the U.S. provide “lethal defensive weapons” to Ukraine to push back against Russian military action was softened at the Republican National Convention to instead offer “appropriate assistance.”

Committee has more access to classified information than it had in previous probes

The senators said the classified information they have been able to access far exceeded what was available to them during their investigation of the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya.

Seven committee staffers assigned to sift through thousands of intelligence documents have access to information typically only available to the most senior members of Congress, known as the Gang of Eight, the senators said.

“That is unprecedented in the history of the committee,” Burr said, adding that this makes it easier for the committee to determine who needs to be interviewed.

The committee will move slowly and deliberately


Burr said the committee would not release names of people who would be interviewed, nor ask them to come before the committee until the “appropriate time.”

Warner noted that the committee would not schedule its interview with Kushner, the only person named as an interview subject so far, until “we know exactly the scope of what needs to be asked” of him.

Both lawmakers emphasized the wide-ranging scope of the investigation, which will also look at Russian capabilities and previous influence campaigns.

The committee’s first open hearing on Russian election meddling, scheduled for Thursday, will take that broad, historical approach. No big intelligence names are scheduled to testify, but cybersecurity experts will speak to Russia’s methods and motivations.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/burr-warner-presser-what-we-learned-senate-intelligence-russia-probe/


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IMO, it's a given that the Russians meddle just as it is a given that the US meddles. The real question is whether Russian meddling was facilitated by any USians.


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oskar576 wrote:
IMO, it's a given that the Russians meddle just as it is a given that the US meddles. The real question is whether Russian meddling was facilitated by any USians.

While I agree with you on "the real question", I'm thinking virtually EVERY country "meddles" to one degree or another depending on party leadership ~ :ey

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Given that at least 8 [and maybe more] Russians have died under suspicious/strange circumstances within the past few months, this expert's words ring true ~ :g ~ Sooz

‘Follow the trail of dead Russians’ if you want to crack 2016 election interference: Senate intel witness
David Ferguson / 30 Mar 2017 at 12:11 ET

Terrorism and espionage expert Clint Watts told the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday that if they want to understand Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, then they need to “follow the trail of dead Russians.”

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) asked Watts at the hearing, “How can the committee track this fuzzy line between the Russian oligarchs, Russian organized crime and the Russian government?”

Watts began by pointing out that he is not an expert on Russia, but a counterterrorism specialist, then explained that the Russian attack on the U.S. election had two components, the virtual or internet component and an actual physical real-world component.

The virtual assault, Watts said, came from a “disproportionate number of fake news outlets” in Eastern Europe, “conspiratorial web sites that are run from there that are English-speaking editors that are pro-Russian. Trained in Russia sometimes. How are they funded? That would be one component.”

“My hypothesis, working in the intelligence field,” he continued, “is that there is some sort of Russian intel asset that is funding them in one way or another through some sort of scheme.”

“The other part that I think we should be looking at is: Follow the trail of dead Russians,” Watts said. “There’s been more dead Russians in the past three months that are tied to this investigation who have assets in banks all over the world. They are dropping dead, even in western countries. We have seen arrests in I believe it’s Spain and different computer security companies that are based in Russia, which provide services to the United States. These are all huge openings to understand how they are funded by the Russian government. I don’t have the capability to do that from where I sit, but I think that’s a huge angle.”

Watts is a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and a specialist in the Islamic State (ISIS) and cyber terrorism.

Watch the video, embedded below:


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/follow-the-trail-of-dead-russians-if-you-want-to-crack-2016-election-interference-senate-intel-witness/


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IMO, it's a given that the Russians meddle just as it is a given that the US meddles. The real question is whether Russian meddling was facilitated by any USians.

While I agree with you on "the real question", I'm thinking virtually EVERY country "meddles" to one degree or another depending on party leadership ~ :ey

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Probably. Some more than others, but they aren't the topic at hand. :)


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Switching back to the HOUSE investigation ~ none of the WH, Spicer, the DiC, Nunes, OR Ryan need any help to "look bad" ~ :ey ~ there are "live links" to more/corroborating information in the original ~ Sooz

White House accused of having direct role in Devin Nunes’ leak
03/30/17 04:33 PM
By Steve Benen

A couple of weeks ago, Politico had an interesting report that, at the time, went largely overlooked. National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, apparently tried to transfer a subordinate, but he was overruled by Donald Trump, who intervened personally. As of today, this seemingly unimportant personnel decision matters in a whole new way.

As Politico explained it, the National Security Council’s senior director for intelligence programs, a 30-year-old intelligence operative named Ezra Cohen-Watnick, fell out of favor with the intelligence community, and was poised to be moved to a different position. Cohen-Watnick then reached out to Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner, who took the matter to the president, who in turn overruled his National Security Advisor and shielded Cohen-Watnick.

And why is Ezra Cohen-Watnick’s role in the administration suddenly more interesting? This is why.

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A pair of White House officials played a role in providing Representative Devin Nunes of California, a Republican and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, with the intelligence reports that showed that President Trump and his associates were incidentally swept up in foreign surveillance by American spy agencies. […]

Several current American officials identified the White House officials as Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the senior director for intelligence at the National Security Council, and Michael Ellis, a lawyer who works on national security issues at the White House Counsel’s Office and formerly worked on the staff of the House Intelligence Committee.

This may seem like a lot of names to keep track of, but stick with me for a minute.

Last week, Devin Nunes quietly made a trip to the White House, when he claims he received secret information related to Donald Trump’s conspiracy theory about being the target of surveillance. A day later, Nunes held two press conferences where he referred to the classified materials, which he wouldn’t explain in any detail, but which he suggested bolstered the president’s contentions.

If the New York Times’ reporting is correct, Nunes was given the information by two White House officials: Michael Ellis, who used to work for the committee Nunes chairs, and Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who was brought into the White House by Michael Flynn (the former National Security Advisor who was forced to resign last month), who apparently has connections to top members of Team Trump, and whose job was saved by the president personally.

And what did they leak to him? According to the Times, the materials “consisted primarily of ambassadors and other foreign officials talking about how they were trying to develop contacts within Mr. Trump’s family and inner circle in advance of his inauguration.”

OK, so why is this important?

It makes the White House look bad: If the reporting is correct, two White House officials leaked secret information to an allied congressman in the hopes of substantiating one of Trump’s conspiracy theories. It was information they dug up after Trump’s strange tweets, not before.

It makes Sean Spicer look bad: The press secretary has argued to reporters this week that White House officials were not responsible for giving information to Devin Nunes, which was always hard to believe given his secret trip to the White House complex the day before his press conferences, and which now appears to be the exact opposite of the truth.

It makes Trump look bad: He claimed “vindication” after Nunes’ bizarre comments, but his conspiracy theory looks no better now than it did when he first made it. In fact, if the Times’ reporting is accurate, the president’s claims are now worse.

It makes Nunes look really bad: The chairman of the House Intelligence now appears to be at the center of a ridiculous, theatrical display, in which he was voluntarily used as an extension of White House propaganda efforts.

It even makes Paul Ryan look bad: The House Speaker told the nation this morning that Nunes received information of “a whistleblower-type person.” That now appears to be completely untrue. What’s more, the longer Paul Ryan leaves Devin Nunes in his current role, the easier it is to argue that the Speaker is cooperating with Nunes’ transparent campaign to do the White House’s bidding.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/white-house-accused-having-direct-role-devin-nunes-leak


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Moving back to the SENATE investigation ~ yes, this was the just the first public hearing but this Senate investigation already seems far more serious/competent than the House investigation ~ Sooz

5 Revelations from the Senate Intelligence Committee's First Public Hearing on Russia and the 2016 Elections
"This is not fake news. This is actually what happened to us."
By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet / March 30, 2017

Led by chairman Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) and vice chairman Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-VA), the Senate Intelligence Committee held its first public hearing Thursday on Russia's interference in the 2016 elections. Equal parts illuminating and harrowing, it offered fresh insight into the Kremlin's spy games and raised new questions about the Trump administration's possible collusion with Putin.

Here are five of its more revelatory moments:

1. Trump appears to parrot Putin's "fake news."

"Part of the reason active measures have worked in this U.S. election is because the commander-in-chief has used Russian active measures at time against his opponents," Clinton Watts, Robert A. Fox Fellow in the Foreign Policy Research Institute noted.

Trump's claims that the election was rigged appeared to parallel Russian propaganda, "the number one theme pushed by RT, Sputnik News... all the way up until the election."


2. Russian "active measures" have been in play for nearly a century.

Roy Godson, Professor of Government Emeritus at Georgetown University, spoke of the overt and covert methods used by Russian officials since the 1920s and 1930s. "[They] created an enormous apparatus in the world," he said. "They used this apparatus to be able to influence the politics of Europe after the war."

The methods were used to "help Europe and sometimes [the U.S.] in fighting the Nazis and the Italian fascists," Godson noted. "But they were also preparing for being able... to undermine democratic and liberal parties, including in the United States."


3. "Russian propaganda on steroids" helped employ thousands.

"The Russians employed thousands of paid internet trolls and botnets to push out disinformation and fake news at high volume, flooding our social media," Sen. Mark Warner confirmed.

"This fake news and disinformation was then hyped by the American media echo chamber and our own social media networks to reach and potentially influence millions of Americans," he added.

"This is not innuendo or false allegations," Warner hammered. "This is not fake news. This is actually what happened to us."


4. Russian operatives sought to undermine American politics long after the election.

"This past week, we observed social media campaigns targeting speaker of the House Paul Ryan hoping to foment further unrest amongst U.S. democratic institutions," Watts told senators. He claims one of its targets was Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a vocal critic of Russia.

5. The money trail is littered with bodies.

"There’s been more dead Russians in the past three months that are tied to this investigation who have assets in banks all over the world. They are dropping dead, even in western countries," Watts concluded. "These are all huge openings to understand how they are funded by the Russian government. I don’t have the capability to do that from where I sit, but I think that’s a huge angle."


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/5-revelations-senate-intelligence-committees-first-public-hearing-russia-and-2016


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Returning to the HOUSE investigation ~ Nunes is toast ~ :ey ~ Sooz

Devin Nunes stepping aside in Russia probe — at least for now
Travis Gettys / 06 Apr 2017 at 09:41 ET

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) will step aside in the Russia investigation — at least temporarily.

The Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee has been plagued by criticism of his handling of the probe of possible ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

“Several left-wing activists have filed complaints against me with the Office of Congressional Ethics,” Nunes said in a statement. “The charges are entirely false and politically motivated, and are being leveled just as the American people are beginning to learn the truth about the improper unmasking of the identities of U.S. citizens and other abuses of power.”

Nunes said he would step away from the investigation until the ethics complaints had been examined, and hand over oversight of the probe to Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX).

Reps. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) and Tom Rooney (R-FL) will assist Conaway, Nunes said.

Nunes said he will continue to serve as chairman while the ethics probe was completed.

Gowdy has called on Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the panel’s ranking Democrat, to recuse himself from the Russia investigation because he backed Hillary Clinton in the election.

Schiff has called on Nunes to recuse himself after revealing classified information that showed Trump campaign associates were caught in routine surveillance of foreign agents and then meeting with the White House before other members of the House committee.

The ranking Democrat has accused Nunes and White House officials of “laundering” documents related to the investigation.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/devin-nunes-stepping-aside-in-russia-probe-at-least-for-now/


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A Facebook friend shared this from one of his FB friends, who got it from a FB friend ... etc ~ just keeping things in perspective ~ :ey ~ Sooz

"I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia, except for ...
the Flynn thing ...
and the Manafort thing ...
and the Tillerson thing ...
and the Sessions thing ...
and the Kushner thing ...
and the Carter Page thing ...
and the Roger Stone thing ...
and the Felix Sater thing ...
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing ...
and the Rosneft thing ...
and the Gazprom thing ...
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing ...
and the Azerbajain thing ...
and the “I love Putin” thing ...
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing ...
and the Sergey Kislyak thing ...
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing ...
and the Russian Business Interests thing ...
and the Emoluments Clause thing ...
and the Alex Schnaider thing ...
and the hack of the DNC thing ...
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing ...
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing ...
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing ...
and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing ...
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing ...
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing ...
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing ...
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing ...
and the Cyprus bank thing ...
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing ...
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing ...
and the election hacking thing ...
and the GOP platform change on the Ukraine thing ...
and the Steele Dossier thing ...
and the Leninist Bannon thing ...
and Sally Yates prevented from testifying thing ...
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing ...
and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing ...
and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing ...
so there’s probably nothing there ...
since the swamp has been drained, these people would never lie. It is probably why Nunes canceled the investigation meetings and the Senate now has taken over. All of this must be normal.
... just a bunch of separate dots with no connection."

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From my Facebook feed ~ :tearhair ~ Sooz

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Drilling down to the nitty gritty ~ :ey ~ I have not yet read either of the "live links" below ~ Sooz

TPM EDBLOG
Another Piece of the Trump Puzzle: The Carter Page FISA Warrant
By Josh Marshall Published April 11, 2017, 10:37 PM EDT

The Washington Post published a story this evening that adds a significant new piece to the Trump puzzle. The headline is that in the summer of 2016 the FBI obtained a FISA warrant to monitor the communications of Carter Page, a key player in the Trump/Russia story. Obtaining a FISA warrant is significant in itself since to do so the government must show probable cause that the target of the warrant is acting as the agent of a foreign power. What this means, what the government has to show is set forth very specifically in statute.

Let me run through what I believe are the key points in this story.

1. The article says that Page was the "only American to have had his communications directly targeted with a FISA warrant in 2016 as part of the Russia probe." That's a significant data point in itself since this appears to show categorically that none of the other frequently mentioned players were surveilled directly.

2. The warrant was apparently obtained in July 2016. At one point the article refers to the FISA warrant being obtained "last summer". But later it says the application for a FISA warrant "showed that the FBI and the Justice Department’s national security division have been seeking since July to determine how broad a network of accomplices Russia enlisted in attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election." Ergo, I think we know that the application was at least made in July. Conceivably it was granted in August. I'm not sure how long a period there can be between the two.

What else was happening in July? The first Wikileaks release of DNC emails was on July 22nd. Page himself traveled to Moscow in early July and gave a speech there on July 7th. July was a critical month on many fronts as you can see here. Was it one of these events that prompted the FBI to seek the FISA warrant? Some mix of both? Neither?

3. The Post reports, according to unnamed officials, that "the government’s application for the surveillance order targeting Page included a lengthy declaration that laid out investigators’ basis for believing that Page was an agent of the Russian government and knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of Moscow."

One part of the FBI's case was the 2013 case - recently reported - in which Russian intelligence operatives in the US met with and apparently sought to recruit Page. But it says "the application said Page had other contacts with Russian operatives that have not been publicly disclosed."

On first blush, it's not hard to imagine that the FBI's attention might be peaked by seeing someone who had earlier met with Russian intelligence operatives and been the target of recruitment popping up as a major presidential candidate's advisor. But that doesn't sound like it would have been enough to seek a FISA warrant, let alone get one. The key point I think is that according to the Post's account of knowledgable sources, the FBI believed it had evidence that Page "knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of Moscow." That's much more that crossing paths with the wrong people.

For the moment, I don't think this scoop dramatically transforms our understanding of the broader story. But it confirms and adds weight to a key part of it. The piece also provides some interesting details about Page's attendance at a number of campaign policy meetings. But these seem about what we'd expect of a named advisor. Not surprising but good data points to have.

The oddity of Page is that he certainly wasn't operating under deep cover. Indeed, he paraded his pro-Russian views widely. In other words, it's not like Page was a mole - the most Russophobic advisor who turned out to be in Moscow's employ. Page was right out in the open as a major critic of US policy who believed and said to all who'd listen that the US should be far friendlier to Russia. Other oddities are his constant press appearances. Why did he go on Chris Hayes show a few weeks ago? Why has he made so many press appearances, almost all of which have been handled weirdly and badly? Why hasn't he just lawyered up and shut up? For that matter, if Page was operating as a Russian agent, why would he travel to Moscow to give a speech harshly critical of the US a week before the convention? Needless to say, that's certainly going to draw attention. It's all a mystery.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/another-piece-of-the-trump-puzzle


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sooz- is this investigation still rolling? i haven't heard much lately.


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sooz- is this investigation still rolling? i haven't heard much lately.


Of course you haven't. That's just the way fascists like it.


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macroscopic wrote:
sooz- is this investigation still rolling? i haven't heard much lately.

Both investigations are "still rolling", mac ~ but both the House and the Senate are in spring recess right now ~ in the House, Devin Nunes [R] has been "outed" as a DiC flunky, but Adam Schiff [D] is on to him ... and exposing him ~ virtually every word that the DiC utters is intended to throw shade over the investigations ... as was the Syria "strike" ~

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sooz06 wrote:
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sooz- is this investigation still rolling? i haven't heard much lately.

Both investigations are "still rolling", mac ~ but both the House and the Senate are in spring recess right now ~ in the House, Devin Nunes [R] has been "outed" as a DiC flunky, but Adam Schiff [D] is on to him ... and exposing him ~ virtually every word that the DiC utters is intended to throw shade over the investigations ... as was the Syria "strike" ~ Sooz


I agree- -I don't think this supposed rift with Russia is real either - too convenient. I read that trump's poll numbers are up - yep, just bomb a country and you too will be popular. I swear there has to be something in the water to make people so damn naive, and just plain dumb.

I saw a small headline that there was mention of sanctions easing in a discussion with Russia, but I can not find it. . Keep an eye out for it. Hope it is not some fake business, because it would seem to be especially damning. . . .

Found it. . just another it may have come up thing. Yeah sure, totally plausible :rolleyes

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carter-p ... d=46771486


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his poll numbers ARE up....2%

so, this is not a huge bounce for him.

we'll see how it plays out.


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his poll numbers ARE up....2%

so, this is not a huge bounce for him.

we'll see how it plays out.


Yeah, well that post-missile bounce won't last and his constant about-faces are pissing everybody off - including his base.
Meanwhile, the Republican-dominated Congress is still polling in serious negatives - even a 15% "margin of error" isn't enough to yank them out of the hole.


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I trust Josh Marshall's political acumen and perspective ~ here he offers solid advice ~ emphasis/italics are in original ~ Sooz

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Hiding in Plain Sight
By Josh Marshall Published April 13, 2017, 8:47 AM EDT

Let me share a few thoughts on the latest developments in the Trump Russia story, or perhaps better to say, elements of it that don't seem to be getting a great deal of attention.

There's been a fair amount of discussion of Donald Trump's multiple business ties to people from the Russian criminal underworld. This is not primarily contacts or associations that came up during the campaign but ties that go back in most cases a bit more than a decade. The regimes of Russia and other post-Soviet states are heavily kleptocratic. So the lines separating oligarchs from governments from organized crime bosses can be very hard to draw and in many cases are close to non-existent.

Most reports and observers of the Trump/Russia story have tended to look at this morass of ties and associations and see this as the swamp in which the smoking gun or extensive evidence of Trump's ties to Russian intelligence and hacking will be found. I think there's a quite good chance that that's true - for a number of reasons I hope to get to in coming days. It's a solid assumption.

But this assumption has tended to hide an extremely relevant story in plain site: namely, Donald Trump had and continues to have extensive and deep ties and business dependence on organized crime figures in the US, Russia, Ukraine and a host of other countries. If we'd never heard about Russian intelligence hacking of the 2016 election or Carter Page or Paul Manafort or Sergei Kislyak this would seem like an extraordinarily big deal. And indeed it is an extraordinarily big deal.

What that means is that we - as reporters and as a concerned public - should probe these relationships on their own terms just as much as the most logical place to hunt looking for the evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow. Perhaps another way to put it is, let's find that needle. But don't forget the haystack is a huge story in itself. It may end up being the bigger one. That story goes not only to Donald Trump but what US law enforcement and intelligence knew about Donald Trump, his connections to the world of oligarchs and organized crime long before the DNC's and John Podesta's emails started appearing out of thin air to help saw the 2016 election. There is a whole lot there.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/hiding-in-plain-sight--2


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his poll numbers ARE up....2%

so, this is not a huge bounce for him.

we'll see how it plays out.


Yeah, well that post-missile bounce won't last and his constant about-faces are pissing everybody off - including his base.
Meanwhile, the Republican-dominated Congress is still polling in serious negatives - even a 15% "margin of error" isn't enough to yank them out of the hole.


i agree with this. i think that sustaining the war with Syria would help his numbers a bit more, but it really doesn't seem like his style to me. and in the absence of that, the other factors with this administration will take over. like this one:

i am starting to ask myself if there are any people in this administration who will NOT end up on the foreign agents registry.


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Finding/following cracks in the foundation ~ :ey ~ there are a few "live links" to more/corroborating information in the original ~ Sooz

Investigators now have ‘concrete evidence’ of collusion between Trump camp and Russian govt: source
David Ferguson / 13 Apr 2017 at 12:55 ET

A source close to the investigation into President Donald Trump’s campaign and its ties to Russia says that there is now “specific concrete and corroborative evidence” that individuals within Trump’s immediate orbit coordinated with Russian intelligence operatives during the election.

The Guardian said on Thursday that the U.K.’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has been watching the Trump camp since late 2015, having noticed suspicious “interactions” between Trump associates and well-known Russian agents.

GCHQ passed the information it had uncovered along to U.S. intelligence agencies as part of the routine exchange of information and for the next six months until summer of 2016, U.S intelligence agencies were receiving information about the contacts from European agencies in Germany, Estonia and Poland.

More information came in to U.S. hands from members of the “Five Eyes” alliance that includes the U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

“It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information,” the Guardian said. “The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.”

However, after carefully compiling the assembled intelligence, one source close to the investigation said, “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion. This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”

Sources close to the GCHQ told the Guardian that it looks like U.S. intelligence agencies “were asleep” with regards to Russia and its alliance with the Trump team.

“They [the European agencies] were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this,’” the source said. “The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”

U.S. spy agencies, however, are forbidden from spying on citizens without a warrant — warrants that are very difficult to obtain.

“They are trained not to do this,” the source said, which slowed down the time it took for U.S. agencies to become aware of the threat and respond, which it did in the late summer of 2016.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/investigators-now-have-concrete-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-camp-and-russian-govt-source/


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