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PostPosted: 07/26/17 2:08 pm • # 1 
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I need to organize my thoughts before commenting further on this latest brutal/ignorant/bigoted "announcement" ... which was delivered via Twitter this morning! ~ :s ~ some "live links" to more/corroborating information in the original ~ Sooz

Trump announcement on transgender troops surprises Pentagon
07/26/17 12:51 PM
By Steve Benen

Ordinarily, when pundits talk about the White House’s communications problems, they’re referring to Donald Trump and his team struggling to stick to an honest and consistent message. But this morning we were reminded of a different kind of White House communications problem.

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The Pentagon seems to have been unaware that President Donald Trump has decided to bar transgender people from the military.

A Pentagon spokesman, Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, refused to answer questions about what Trump’s tweeted announcement means for the current policy, including whether transgender people already serving in the military will be kicked out.

“Call the White House,” he said.

It looks like the president just banned thousands of transgender troops without coordinating with the Defense Department. The White House also didn’t offer the Senate Armed Services Committee a heads-up, either.

And I don’t imagine anyone finds this is especially surprising. Trump picked a new FBI director without coordinating with the Justice Department. Trump makes foreign policy decisions without running them by the State Department. When Trump launched his Muslim ban, the Department of Homeland Security wasn’t at all clear on how to implement the president’s vision.

The president sees himself as a CEO, which is a flawed model for the head of a federal executive branch, but it’s especially problematic given that Trump looks at his administration as a small business instead of a large one.

As a candidate, Trump sold himself to voters as the head of a big and successful private-sector enterprise, but what went largely overlooked was the fact that the Trump Organization has always been a modest operation.

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Mr. Trump often boasts of the size of the Trump Organization. “It’s a big company,” he said in the interview last spring. A spokeswoman said the business employed “tens of thousands.”

But industry experts estimate that no more than 4,000 people work for the Trump Organization worldwide. And executives say that the three floors that make up the headquarters appear to have no more than 150 employees.

It is a family business, as everyone involved is quick to explain.

It’s not as if Trump ran a major American company like General Electric, with hundreds of thousands of employees and multiple divisions, tackling a variety of complex operations. Rather, he oversaw a more modest company, with a small workforce, which left him plenty of time to become a television personality.

So when Trump makes important decisions about American troops, it doesn’t occur to him to coordinate with the relevant policymakers – in part because the president doesn’t know how government works and in part because he’s not accustomed to thinking in any other way.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-announcement-transgender-troops-surprises-pentagon


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Trump Administration Official Admits Decision Banning All Transgender Service Members Is Purely Political

White House: Banning Trans Service Members 'Forces Democrats in Rust Belt States' to Defend Opposition to New Policy


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.co ... new_policy



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Chairman of Senate Armed Services Committee on Trump's Total Transgender Ban: Not So Fast

John McCain Says 'Any American Who Meets Current Medical & Readiness Standards Should Be Allowed to Continue Serving'


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.co ... ot_so_fast



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Inside Trump’s snap decision to ban transgender troops
A congressional fight over sex reassignment surgery threatened funding for his border wall.


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/2 ... nes-240990


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The Military Spends More on Viagra Than on Transgender Soldiers' Medical Expenses

http://lifehacker.com/the-military-spen ... 1797266371


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McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee ... added... "The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender individuals to stay in the military, and many are serving honorably today. Any American who meets current medical and readiness standards should be allowed to continue serving."

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/34391 ... -troop-ban


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Here's more ~ all are strong comments, but I LOVE Joe Kennedy's comment below ~ Sooz

Erica Pandey 3 hrs ago
Lawmakers blast Trump's transgender military tweets

Lawmakers are bashing President Trump's morning Twitter announcement of a ban on transgender individuals serving in the military. Here's the latest from the right and the left:

Republicans

Sen. John McCain, in a statement, "Yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via Twitter … The statement was unclear ... There is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train, and deploy to leave the military—regardless of their gender identity."

Sen. Joni Ernst, a conservative and veteran, in a statement from her office, "While [Ersnt] believes taxpayers shouldn't cover the costs associated with a gender reassignment surgery, Americans who are qualified and can meet the standards to serve in the military should be afforded that opportunity."

Sen Orrin Hatch, in a statement, "I don't think we should be discriminating against anyone. Transgender people are people, and deserve the best we can do for them."

Sen. Cory Gardner to reporters, "I don't agree with the president."

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen tweeted, "No American, no matter their sexual orientation or gender identity, should be prohibited from honor + privilege of serving our nation #LGBT."

Democrats

Sen. Patty Murray tweeted, "Anyone who puts on a uniform to defend our freedoms deserves our country's support and whole-hearted respect. Period."

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, on Twitter, "This new decision is harmful and misguided. It weakens—not strengthens—our military. And I'll do everything in my power to fight it."

Rep. Joe Kennedy III tweeted, "Our soldiers do not discriminate. They defend all of our nation's people. Their government owes them that same decency in return."

https://www.axios.com/lawmakers-slam-trump-over-transgender-military-ban-2465827334.html


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PostPosted: 07/26/17 2:50 pm • # 5 
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Post #3 above is SPECTACULAR!!! ~ :st

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Jonathan Swan‏Verified account @jonathanvswan · 7h7 hours ago

Just spoke to a Trump administration official about the transgender military decision. Here's what they said...


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National political reporter @axios, covering the Trump presidency & Republican Hill leaders. Send story ideas, tips, leaks & death threats to jonathan@axios.com


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<begin heavy sarcasm> LOVELY!!! <end heavy sarcasm> ~ per post #6 above, so the DiC and his "fans" continue to play political games with American lives! ~ :tearhair

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PostPosted: 07/26/17 5:03 pm • # 8 
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<begin heavy sarcasm> LOVELY!!! <end heavy sarcasm> ~ per post #6 above, so the DiC and his "fans" continue to play political games with American lives! ~ :tearhair

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PostPosted: 07/26/17 5:20 pm • # 9 
Shift: #3 is brilliant!


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It appears that he doesn't know what the "T" stands for.


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shiftless2 wrote:
It appears that he doesn't know what the "T" stands for.


First he was "with them" in order to tarnish Hillary. Now he's "against them" on the military front. What's next?


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He's getting desperate - this is becoming a "look there not here" moment and it provides some red meat for that part of his fan base that thinks he can do no wrong.


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Accept transgender troops, allow them medical treatment, Adm. Mike Mullen tells Congress

Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen called on Congress Tuesday to resist dictating policy to the Pentagon on how to treat transgender troops.

Mullen was the highest-profile military leader to oppose the military’s policy barring gay troops from serving, lending his considerable prestige to that ultimately successful movement. He oversaw the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in 2011 and compared it today to efforts aimed at limiting funding for medical treatment of transgender troops.

“I led our armed forces under the flawed ‘Don’t ask, Don’t tell’ policy and saw firsthand the harm to readiness and morale when we fail to treat all service members according to the same standards,” Mullen said in a statement to USA TODAY. “Thousands of transgender Americans are currently serving in uniform and there is no reason to single out these brave men and women and deny them the medical care that they require.”

Mullen’s call to limit congressional input into Pentagon policy on transgender troops makes him the highest-ranking former or current officer to speak out on their behalf. Last year, then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter rescinded the policy that prevented transgender troops from serving openly and to allow them to receive medical treatment for their condition.

Under the Trump administration, implementation of the policy on recruiting transgender troops has been slowed. The services had been scheduled to begin accepting new transgender troops on July 1, but Defense Secretary Jim Mattis allowed the services another six months to study the issue.

Two weeks ago, the House of Representative narrowly defeated an amendment to the annual National Defense Authorization Act that would have prevented the Pentagon from spending money for surgery on transgender troops. Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., introduced the amendment and said it would save taxpayers $1 billion over 10 years.


“The job of Congress is to ensure that our military is the most effective, efficient and well-funded fighting force in the world,” she said in a statement when her initiative was introduced. “With the challenges we are facing across the globe, we are asking the American people to invest their hard-earned money in national defense.”

RAND Corp. study

Hartzler’s estimate is contradicted by a RAND Corp. study commissioned by the Pentagon last year. The non-profit, non-partisan think tank found that treatment, including hormone and surgery, for transgender troops could cost as much as $8.4 million per year.

There are as many as 6,630 transgender troops in the active-duty force of 1.3 million, RAND found. The study determined that the effect on treating about 270 transgender troops per year would have a negligible impact on military readiness.

Mullen referred to the RAND report when he said Congress should “not confuse oversight with micromanagement of personnel policy.”

“The military conducted a thorough research process on this issue and concluded that inclusive policy for transgender troops promotes readiness,” Mullen said. “I urge the Congress to respect the military’s judgment and not to breach the faith of service members who defend our freedoms.”

The policy bill approved by the House authorizes nearly $700 billion in military spending. Another bill to authorize that money contains amendments that would ban the Pentagon from spending money on medical treatment for transgender troops and sensitivity training aimed at promoting their acceptance.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 508852001/


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shiftless2 wrote:
He's getting desperate - this is becoming a "look there not here" moment and it provides some red meat for that part of his fan base that thinks he can do no wrong.


i think that is precisely what this is.

his approval ratings have hovered around 40% for (2) months now. but if you step outside of the bubble for a moment, you can feel the downdraft. Donnie would do just about anything to pump some hot air into that 40%.

next stop: 30%


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UK military chiefs praise transgender troops

It comes after Donald Trump said that transgender people would not be allowed in the US military due to "tremendous" medical costs and disruption.

But British officials have supported people serving in the Army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force.

Commander of UK Maritime Forces Rear Admiral Alex Burton tweeted: "I am so glad we are not going this way."

The Obama administration decided last year to allow transgender people to serve openly in the US military.

But in June, Defence Secretary James Mattis agreed to a six-month delay in the recruitment of transgender people.

Now President Trump has posted a series of tweets saying: "After consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the US military.

"Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."


In response, Rear Admiral Burton of the Royal Navy tweeted: "As a Royal Navy LGBT champion and senior warfighter I am so glad we are not going this way."
And Second Sea Lord Vice Admiral Jonathan Woodcock tweeted: "So proud of our transgender personnel. They bring diversity to our Royal Navy and I will always support their desire to serve their country.

"I suspect many who doubt the abilities of our diverse service personnel might be more reluctant to serve than they are to comment."

In February, the Army's LGBT champion, Lieutenant General Patrick Sanders said: "Only if individuals are free to be themselves can we release the genie of their potential."

Each of Britain's armed forces welcomes transgender people to serve.

The Ministry of Defence told the BBC that President Trump's tweets were "an American issue".

A spokesman added: "We are clear that all LGBT members of our armed forces play a vital role in keeping our nation safe. We will continue to welcome people from a diverse range of backgrounds, including transgender personnel."

BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale said the MoD would not provide the number of transgender people serving in the British military, but that one source had told him there were fewer than 10. [Shift's comment - that number is patent nonsense.]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40733701


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File this under "inconvenient facts" ...

Assessing the Implications of Allowing Transgender Personnel to Serve Openly


Recent U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) policy banned transgender personnel from serving openly in the military. Potential changes to this policy raised questions regarding access to gender transition–related health care, the range of transition-related treatments that DoD will need to provide, the potential costs associated with these treatments, and the impact of these health care needs on force readiness and the deployability of transgender service members. A RAND study identified the health care needs of the transgender population and transgender service members in particular. It also examined the costs of covering transition-related treatments, assessed the potential readiness implications of a policy change, and reviewed the experiences of foreign militaries that permit transgender personnel to serve openly.

Key Findings

There Are an Estimated 1,320–6,630 Transgender Service Members in the Active Component, but Not All Will Seek Gender Transition–Related Treatment

It is difficult to estimate the number of transgender personnel in the military due to current policies and a lack of empirical data. Applying a range of prevalence estimates, combining data from multiple surveys, and adjusting for the male/female distribution in the military provided a midrange estimate of around 2,450 transgender personnel in the active component (out of a total number of approximately 1.3 million active-component service members) and 1,510 in the Selected Reserve.

Only a subset will seek gender transition–related treatment. Estimates derived from survey data and private health insurance claims data indicate that, each year, between 29 and 129 service members in the active component will seek transition-related care that could disrupt their ability to deploy.

The Costs of Gender Transition–Related Health Care Treatment Are Relatively Low

Using private health insurance claims data to estimate the cost of extending gender transition–related health care coverage to transgender personnel indicated that active-component health care costs would increase by between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually, representing a 0.04- to 0.13-percent increase in active-component health care expenditures.

Even upper-bound estimates indicate that less than 0.1 percent of the total force would seek transition-related care that could disrupt their ability to deploy.

Previous Integration Efforts and the Experiences of Foreign Militaries Indicate a Minimal Likely Impact on Force Readiness

The limited research on the effects of foreign military policies indicates little or no impact on unit cohesion, operational effectiveness, or readiness. Commanders noted that the policies had benefits for all service members by creating a more inclusive and diverse force.

Policy changes to open more roles to women and to allow gay and lesbian personnel to serve openly in the U.S. military have similarly had no significant effect on unit cohesion, operational effectiveness, or readiness.

Recommendations

DoD should ensure strong leadership and identify and communicate the benefits of an inclusive and diverse workforce to successfully implement a policy change and successfully integrate openly serving transgender service members into the force.

DoD should develop an explicit written policy on all aspects of the gender transition process to minimize any impact on service member or unit readiness.

DoD should provide education and training to the rest of the force on transgender personnel policy, and it should integrate this training with other diversity-related training and education.

DoD should develop and enforce a clear anti-harassment policy that addresses harassment aimed at transgender personnel alongside other targets of harassment.

DoD should make subject-matter experts and gender advisers serving within military units available to commanders seeking guidance or advice on gender transition–related issues.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html


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If the photos in post #15 don't affect you, nothing will ~ :brhrt

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Meanwhile, in Canada

Canadian Forces aim to improve transgender policy as Trump reinstates ban

The Canadian Forces says it is pressing ahead with improvements to its transgender policy, even as U.S. President Donald Trump looks to bar transgender people from military service south of the border.

Trump surprised many Wednesday when he announced on Twitter that he was reinstating a ban on transgender people serving in uniform, after the previous Obama administration lifted the ban last year.

“Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory,” he wrote, “and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.”

The announcement sparked concern for the hundreds of trans members already serving in the U.S. military, and accusations that the president was exaggerating the challenges of accommodation.

It also cast a light on the Canadian Forces, which lifted its own ban on transgender people and LGBT members following a court case in 1992 – a fact the Forces highlighted on its own Twitter account Wednesday.

“We welcome (Canadians) of all sexual orientations and gender identities,” the military wrote under a picture of three sailors playing instruments at a recent Pride parade. “Join us!”

National Defence spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier said work continues on an update to the Canadian military’s transgender policy, which first came into effect in 2012.

While many of the changes are expected to be technical in nature, it is also expected to give commanding officers and units more guidance when it comes to such basics as bathrooms and showering.

The update, which started last year, is expected to be complete in the fall.

There are no official figures for how many transgender people are in the Forces, but estimates put the number at about 200.

Le Bouthillier also said the military has paid for 19 sex-reassignment operations between 2008 and October 2015, at a total cost of around $309,000. That works out to about $16,200 per operation.

While the costs do not include any hormone therapy, Alan Okros, an expert on diversity in the military at the Canadian Forces College, said many service members receive such treatment for various conditions – not just sex reassignment.

By comparison, Veterans Affairs Canada spent nearly $20-million on medical marijuana last year.

Okros also said he was unaware of any negative impacts that allowing transgender people to serve in uniform has caused on operations or the military’s overall ability to do its job.

Canada is one of 18 countries that currently allow transgender military personnel, which includes Israel, Australia, Britain, Germany and France.

“The disruption factor is not a major issue for these countries at all,” Okros said. “So some of (Trump’s) objections are based on concerns or exaggerations that aren’t borne out.”

Randall Garrison, who serves as both the NDP’s defence critic and its LGBTQ critic, called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to denounce Trump’s “despicable” comments.

“Service to one’s country is of the highest honour. Transgender people who are currently in the military and those who wish to serve are, in many ways, the bravest of the brave,” Garrison said in a statement.

“Prime Minister Trudeau must denounce this policy immediately in order to demonstrate that Canada not only respects human rights but that we will stand up against discrimination.”

The Liberal government sidestepped questions about Trump, however, as Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan’s office noted transgender military personnel have been allowed to serve openly for 25 years.

“Our position on their valuable service in the Canadian military has not changed,” spokeswoman Jordan Owens said in a statement.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/na ... e35812695/


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Randall Garrison, who serves as both the NDP’s defence critic and its LGBTQ critic, called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to denounce Trump’s “despicable” comments.


Now you know why Trudeau is PM and you aren't. It's called diplomacy... and it works far better than confrontation when dealing with the likes of Agent Orange.


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I think Trump is just throwing meat to his base. He's failed to accomplish much of anything and with healthcare such a fiasco he needed a distraction.


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i think it is a smokescreen. a diversion.


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i think it is a smokescreen. a diversion.


Of course it is. IMO, the Mueller team is getting close to something and Sessions isn't protecting Agent Orange and his klan.


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Definitely a smokescreen but it's also red meat for his base. After all, Pence has been lobbying against paying expenses related to transgender medical treatment (and I expect that he's been busy measuring the curtains in the White House as well).


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Ivanka Gets Nailed By Backlash From President Trump’s Trans Military Ban

Ivanka Trump became the target of criticism following her father's announcement that he would ban transgender Americans from serving in the military in any capacity.

The move by President Trump was an abrupt reversal of an Obama administration decision, which would have allowed transgender servicemembers to serve openly. Less than two months ago, Ivanka Trump tweeted her support for transgender and gay Americans.

She also expressed her support for Pride Month.

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@IvankaTrump
I am proud to support my LGBTQ friends and the LGBTQ Americans who have made immense contributions to our society and economy.
10:22 PM - Jun 1, 2017


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@IvankaTrump
Logging back on after Shavuot, wishing everyone a joyful #Pride2017. This month we celebrate and honor the #LGBTQ community.
10:21 PM - Jun 1, 2017


Following Trump's announcement of the transgender service ban, Twitter users wondered how real Ivanka's support of the LGBTQ community is.

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Remember when people said Ivanka would be an ally for the LGBT community? https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/ ... 8235785217
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So you still stand with them, despite your father's announcement today, @IvankaTrump? Will you stand up to @realDonaldTrump? #LGBTQ https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/ ... 8235785217
12:15 PM - Jul 26, 2017


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Words without actions mean nothing. https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/ ... 8235785217
10:37 AM - Jul 26, 2017


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NEW: Kushner & Ivanka surrendered on trans troops. http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-bows ... ans-troops
1:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017


Ivanka Trump and her husband, presidential adviser Jared Kushner, were perceived as a moderating force on social issues after they helped kill an executive order that would have rolled back LGBT protections. Neither of them, however, spoke out publicly after the White House revoked protections that would have allowed transgender students to use public school restrooms that best relate to their gender identity.

In March, Trump signed an executive order that revoked prior orders that provided anti-discrimination protections for federal LGBT employees. Specifically, the president’s decree revokes three previous orders signed by former President Barack Obama, including Executive Order 13673, the “Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces Order.” Once again, the president's daughter and her husband were silent.

We are still awaiting any reaction from Ivanka and Jared to President Trump's tweets yesterday announcing the ban of transgender service in the military.

http://www.distractify.com/politics/201 ... de21677fc8


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