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PostPosted: 10/07/19 7:48 am • # 1 
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I'm a believer that every loss for the DiC is a win for we-the-people ~ this just might be the pulled thread that begins the unraveling of his "empire" ~ fingers, toes, arms, legs, eyes and various other body parts crossed! ~ Sooz

Trump loses legal battle over tax returns after judge orders accounting firm to turn over documents
Published on October 7, 2019
By Travis Gettys

A federal judge rejected an unusual challenge from President Donald Trump and ordered his accounting firm to turn over his corporate and personal tax returns dating back nearly a decade.

The Justice Department came to the president’s aid last week and asked the judge to block a subpoena for the records until a court could consider constitutional issues in the case, and Trump’s attorney basically demanded the judge rule early Monday morning, reported the New York Times.

“After 9 a.m.,” Trump’s lawyer wrote, “the president will not have enough time to seek relief from the Second Circuit before (accounting firm) Mazars discloses his confidential information.”

Judge Victor Marrero rejected the president’s argument just minutes ahead of that deadline, allowing Manhattan prosecutors to subpoena Trump tax returns dating back to 2011.

Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has been investigating whether Trump broke New York tax laws by reimbursing his former personal layer Michael Cohen for payoffs to porn actress Story Daniels just weeks before the 2016 election.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-loses-legal-battle-over-tax-returns-after-judge-orders-accounting-firm-to-turn-over-documents/


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PostPosted: 10/07/19 8:02 am • # 2 
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Here's more ~ this federal judge is NOT playing around ~ GOOD!!! ~ Sooz

Trump Ordered To Comply With State Subpoena Of His Tax Returns
By Josh Kovensky | October 7, 2019 9:15 am

A New York federal judge blocked an attempt from President Donald Trump to halt a subpoena issued by the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office for eight years of his tax returns on Monday.

Personal attorneys for the President immediately filed a notice of appeal, sending the case to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.

U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero described Trump’s argument that it’s illegal to investigate the President “extraordinary,” saying that it would lead to immunity for “any conduct, at any time, in any forum, whether federal or state, and whether the President acted alone or in concert with other individuals.”

Marrero went on to address the vast implications of Trump’s argument. A President immune from any kind of criminal process would, the judge wrote, “frustrate the administration of justice,” allowing “both the President and any accomplices to escape being brought to justice.”

Trump had based his argument in part on the notion that a criminal investigation would hinder the performance of a President’s duties to an unacceptable degree. But Marrero dismissed that concern, saying “certainly lengthy imprisonment upon conviction would produce that result” and that Trump’s “sweeping” theory lacked support in the Constitution.

The Manhattan federal judge also tried to place Trump’s argument in historical context, noting that the framers shunned “the concept of of the inviolability of the person of the King of England and the bounds of the monarch’s protective screen covering the Crown’s actions from legal scrutiny.”

Trump’s argument, in Marrero’s view, advances an argument that the country’s founders rejected “at the inception of the Republic” – that “not only the President, but, derivatively, relatives and persons and business entities associated with him in potentially unlawful private activities, are in fact above the law.”

Marrero added that the argument was “repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values.”

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance had issued the subpoena in August. Trump sued in an attempt to block the demand last month.

Read the decision here: [the interactive decision is accessible via the end link]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/judge-denies-trump-bid-to-block-tax-return-subpoena-by-manhattan-prosecutor


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PostPosted: 10/07/19 8:20 am • # 3 
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Here's still more ~ FTR, I have not yet read thru the ruling ~ Sooz

Trump suffers key court defeat on keeping his tax returns hidden
10/07/19 10:00 AM
By Steve Benen

[Video, The Rachel Maddow Show, 9/19/19, 9:06 PM ET, "Trump lawyers argue Trump can't be investigated or prosecuted", accessible via the end link.]

As of this morning, we’re one step closer to seeing Donald Trump’s hidden tax returns.

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A federal judge Monday rejected President Donald Trump’s claim that he was immune from criminal investigations as part of his bid to block a subpoena from the Manhattan district attorney seeking eight years of personal and business tax returns.

The judge, Victor Marrero, tossed the lawsuit Trump’s legal team brought against District Attorney Cyrus Vance that argued Vance should not receive Trump’s tax returns because “’[v]irtually all legal commenters agree’ that a sitting President of the United States is not ‘subject to the criminal process’ while he is in office.”

Because there are so many legal disputes surrounding Donald Trump’s secret tax materials, it’s easy to lose track of which one is which, so let’s quickly review what this case is all about.

About a month ago, the Manhattan district attorney’s office sent a grand jury subpoena to Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, to obtain his personal and corporate tax returns for the past eight years. It’s part of an investigation into Trump’s hush-money controversy involving pre-election payments to his alleged former mistresses, which helped put the president’s former personal attorney in prison.

Prosecutors are exploring whether the president’s business falsified records to obscure the purpose of Trump’s payment to Stormy Daniels.

As Matt Stieb noted, “Unlike previous subpoenas, this one is in the context of a criminal investigation with a sitting grand jury, making it more difficult for the president’s lawyers to dodge this filing with a lawsuit.”

And yet, Trump’s lawyers – hired specifically to help keep his tax returns secret – filed suit anyway and brought a rather bizarre argument to a federal courtroom.

As Rachel noted on the show recently, Trump’s legal team insisted that a sitting American president cannot be investigated by anyone for any reason, no matter how serious the underlying accusation.

Not surprisingly, Judge Marrero didn’t find this especially persuasive, dismissing the argument as “unqualified and boundless,” adding, “This Court cannot endorse such a categorical and limitless assertion of presidential immunity from” the judicial process.

The full 75-page ruling is online here (pdf).

As of this minute, Trump’s legal defeat means the grand jury subpoena can be enforced, though the president’s attorneys are filing an emergency appeal with the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals in the hopes of maintaining the secrecy of his tax returns a little longer.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-suffers-key-court-defeat-keeping-his-tax-returns-hidden


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PostPosted: 10/07/19 12:27 pm • # 4 
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i heart NY.


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PostPosted: 10/09/19 9:05 am • # 5 
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i heart NY.

I do too, mac ~ hopefully, we won't both be disappointed ~ the DiC's posse of attorneys filed an emergency appeal, and a stay was granted until a full Appeals Court panel can review the case ~ more deflection/obstruction ~ :ey

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macroscopic wrote:
i heart NY.

I do too, mac ~ hopefully, we won't both be disappointed ~ the DiC's posse of attorneys filed an emergency appeal, and a stay was granted until a full Appeals Court panel can review the case ~ more deflection/obstruction ~ :ey

Sooz


They'll keep deflecting and stalling until he's safely out of office and trying to bully the devil into letting him build a tower and golf course in Hell. Only for the Satanic elite, of course.


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PostPosted: 10/09/19 8:55 pm • # 7 
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it FEELS like he is working himself into a corner.

but I don't trust my feelings anymore.


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PostPosted: 10/11/19 10:03 am • # 8 
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This is GOOD NEWS [for the moment] on the other half [the "financial records" vs the "tax returns"] of the subpoenas ~ Sooz

Appeals Court Upholds House Subpoena Of Trump Financial Records
By Matt Shuham | October 11, 2019 10:34 am

President Donald Trump has lost his bid in the Washington, D.C. federal appeals court to shield his financial records from Congress.

The ruling comes just a few days after the President lost his bid in a New York federal district court to block the release of his tax returns.

The three-judge appeals panel split 2-1. D.C. Circuit Court Judge David S. Tatel wrote the opinion for the court and Judge Neomi Rao dissented.

Asked Friday whether the President would appeal, Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow told TPM, “We are reviewing the opinion and evaluating all appellate options.”

The D.C. case dates back to April, when the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazars for Trump’s records.

Trump took the unusual step of hiring outside attorneys in the case, who argued against the release of Trump’s financial records. District Judge Amit Mehta upheld the subpoena in May, and Trump appealed.

Trump’s lawyers argued that Congress’ subpoena was an improper attempt to seize law enforcement authority, rather than an exercise in congressional oversight as Democrats have asserted.

The appeals court found that, regardless of motive or potential criminal conduct that could be exposed in the documents, Congress had a valid legislative aim in seeking the records.

“[P]ublic record reveals legitimate legislative pursuits, not an impermissible law-enforcement purpose, behind the Committee’s subpoena,” Tatel wrote.

Read Tatel and Rao’s opinions below: [interactive decision accessible via the end link]

Tierney Sneed contributed reporting from Washington, D.C.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/appeals-court-rules-against-trump-for-house-subpoena-for-financial-records


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PostPosted: 10/11/19 7:25 pm • # 9 
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That was freakin' quick. I thought it would be next year before they even heard the case.


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