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PostPosted: 03/15/20 12:11 pm • # 101 
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Outrage erupts over White House not releasing Trump’s coronavirus test results: ‘What is he hiding?’

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I see that the official line out of the White House is that he is not infected. All I can say is "Maybe it's true. Maybe it isn't."


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PostPosted: 03/15/20 1:10 pm • # 102 
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I see that the official line out of the White House is that he is not infected.


Considering the current White House's record he probably is infected but wants to party, hold rallies and play golf.


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PostPosted: 03/15/20 1:34 pm • # 103 
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Long article but worth a read

How Trump Missed His, and America’s, Best Chance on Coronavirus

Ben Sixsmith

There is another world out there. There is another world, with another President Donald J. Trump.

There is another world in which President Trump saw coronavirus sweeping through China and grasped how powerfully and elegantly his claims about the authoritarian and deceptive nature of the Chinese state had been illustrated. The government had reprimanded the doctor who had warned of the virus, and, tragically, the doctor had become its victim. How could anybody doubt him on the Chinese question after its government had displayed such selfish negligence?

Simultaneously, Trump could have realised how much a novel and aggressive virus demonstrated the fact that strong national borders are a necessity. He could have ended travel between China and the US—temporarily, of course—and hurried to quarantine people who had travelled near Wuhan. How could anybody query his stance on national self-interest as migration carried a pandemic round the world?

Seeing that this crisis was about to demonstrate the perils of relying on foreign imports for essential supplies, Trump could have restated the case for economic nationalism. Indeed, he could have demonstrated his commitment to the cause by working to release all the funds required for tests, treatment and containment.

As a noted germaphobe, Trump would have been well-placed to insist, in his humorous but assertive way, that Americans should ...

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PostPosted: 03/15/20 1:44 pm • # 104 
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good article. I agree with it.

but as I have said before, he is constitutionally incapable of leading in this situation.


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PostPosted: 03/15/20 7:24 pm • # 105 
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From another board. I'm not going to copy it all but it's a great summary

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Isn’t President Trump responsible for disbanding the pandemic response in 2018, and when asked about it, why did he say it was a "nasty" question?

https://qr.ae/pNnwk4


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 6:58 am • # 106 
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Just a few snippets from an article about the "Stafford Act".


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President Donald Trump had declared a national emergency over the coronavirus, triggering a law known as the Stafford Act.

“Today, I am officially declaring a national emergency,” Trump said. "Two very big words.”

The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act was signed into law in 1988, amending the Disaster Relief Act of 1974. The act gives statutory authority for federal disaster response activities provided through the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA.


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The president is the only one who can declare a major disaster under the law.


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“We have very strong emergency powers under the Stafford Act,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Thursday. “I have it memorized, practically, as to the powers in that act. And if I need to do something, I’ll do it. I have the right to do a lot of things that people don’t even know about.”


https://www.al.com/news/2020/03/coronav ... d-act.html


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 7:12 am • # 107 
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Alibaba's Ma donates coronavirus test kits to US

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/al ... spartandhp


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 8:35 am • # 108 
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Just a couple of things I've heard or read:

Alberta has suspended schools and licensed day cares indefinitely. Possibly no more school this year. They've made plans to automatically pass students. Not sure what they will do about final exams and graduation.

Alabama has banned any venue over 50 people.


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 9:53 am • # 109 
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Alberta has suspended schools and licensed day cares indefinitely. Possibly no more school this year. They've made plans to automatically pass students. Not sure what they will do about final exams and graduation.

Not just graduation - what's going to happen to those seniors who are looking for university placements next year.

BTW - NYC just closed their schools until late April (and possibly for the rest of the year)

And then we see this:

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Tears, confusion and financial woes as colleges abruptly end semesters and send students home
Higher education is unprepared for changes that are coming with the coronavirus outbreak, and poor students will be hurt the most


https://hechingerreport.org/tears-confu ... ents-home/


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 9:59 am • # 110 
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Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste

Trump ‘offers large sums’ for exclusive US access to coronavirus vaccine
German government tries to fight off aggressive takeover bid by US, say reports


https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... us-vaccine


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 11:16 am • # 111 
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Nervous Americans start panic buying GUNS as sales rocket across the country and long lines form outside hunting shops amid coronavirus fears


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... panic.html


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Anyone surprised by this?

Republicans Tried to Sneak Abortion Restrictions into the Coronavirus Bill
Anti-choice lawmakers are stalling emergency legislation.

By Marie Solis

As lawmakers neared a deal on a coronavirus rescue package that would include paid sick leave and free virus testing, a few roadblocks emerged. Among them: Republican attempts to wedge anti-choice restrictions into the House's relief bill, turning—if momentarily—a public health crisis into an abortion debate.

The tensions reportedly revolved around the Hyde Amendment, a decades-old provision that blocks federal funds from going to abortion services, preventing millions of low-income Americans on Medicaid from accessing abortion care.

According to conservative media, some top Republicans believed a stipulation in the House bill requiring the government to reimburse private laboratories doing coronavirus testing could effectively overturn the Hyde Amendment by establishing a government funding stream not subject to the restrictions. In response, anti-choice lawmakers insisted on including language in the legislation that would reaffirm the principles of the amendment.

When Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced on Thursday that negotiations over the coronavirus response bill would go into next week, he accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of turning the legislation into an “ideological wish list.”

“Instead of focusing on immediate relief to affected individuals, families and businesses, the House Democrats chose to wander into various areas of policy that are barely related if at all to the issue before us,” McConnell said.

Yet it is often Republicans who use unrelated legislation as a vehicle for their anti-abortion agenda. And it’s not the first time they’ve used legislation tied to public health emergencies to do it: Amid the spread of the Zika virus in 2016, anti-choice lawmakers added a caveat blocking Planned Parenthood health care providers from accessing any of the designated emergency funds.

Conservative lawmakers also tried to wedged a sneaky anti-abortion provision into Trump’s 2017 tax plan, giving expectant parents the option of creating a college savings account before their child is even born. The measure included fetal personhood language, referring to fetuses as “unborn children,” and defining “unborn child” as any “child in utero.”

And abortion restrictions have been a sticking point in spending bills, which both parties use to push for policies they’re having trouble advancing by other means. In 2018, the White House pushed Republicans in Congress to slip measures that threatened to cut federal funding to Planned Parenthood into a bill to prevent the third government shutdown of the year—even though government dollars never went to funding abortion services at the clinics because of the Hyde Amendment. A little less than a year later, Democrats used their new House majority to pass a spending bill that challenged the one of the Trump administration’s most wide-reaching abortion restrictions: the global gag rule, a law that bans U.S. funding from going to international organizations that provide abortion services or even discuss abortion as a form of reproductive health care. (This version of the spending bill did not make it past Senate Republicans.)

But while government shutdowns can, at a point, become national emergencies, none so far has compared to the scale of the current global coronavirus pandemic, which could leave the U.S. worse off than countries like Italy—which put a quarter of its population on emergency quarantine—the longer it delays decisive action.

The unemployment benefits and free testing that are at the core of the coronavirus rescue package mean preventing further spread of the virus, and making sure that low-wage workers can afford to pay for food, rent, and other necessities if they get sick, or if their workplaces shutter to mitigate harm, or as a result of government mandates.

Neither of those things have to do with abortion—they’re urgent health matters that require the fastest possible response from elected officials.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4ag5 ... strictions


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 12:17 pm • # 112 
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All schools ordered closed Wednesday.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/ ... break.html

Gov. Phil Murphy said Monday that New Jerseyans should not leave their homes between 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. to help stop the spread of the coronavirus.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/ ... virus.html

N.J. closing casinos, movie theaters, gyms tonight because of coronavirus. Takeout and delivery still an option at restaurants, bars.


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PostPosted: 03/16/20 4:35 pm • # 113 
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Trump Voters Wanted to Blow up the System. Well, Here We Go.
Julia Ioffe on how hollowing out the government has endangered America.

BY JULIA IOFFE

None of this is surprising, just as there was nothing even remotely unexpected about President Trump’s Oval Office address on Wednesday night. The goal was to reassure a nation staring down a global pandemic and awash in conflicting information. Trump, true to type, did nothing of the kind. Dryly plowing through some words that his son-in-law and Stephen Miller reportedly put into a teleprompter for him, Trump still managed to get key facts wrong about his own government’s response, thereby sowing the very panic and lack of clarity the address was meant to allay. Late into the night on Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security was sending out clarifying statements on what Trump meant to say when he announced his ban on all cargo and passenger flights coming from Europe. In fact, what he was supposed to say was that the United States was banning non-U.S. residents from a select list of European countries but that cargo would continue coming and going as before. Trump’s decision was apparently made without consulting with America’s European allies, who were blindsided and, predictably, infuriated by the unilateral declaration. Panicked Americans surged into European airports on Thursday, paying as much as $20,000 for a last-minute flight home.

There was little in Trump’s address about increasing the availability of Covid-19 tests, about providing crucial help to hospitals to keep them from being overrun and strained as they have been in Italy, and the little he said about helping patients afford the emergency care and testing they might need as a result of the pandemic was not quite right either. The health insurance industry wasn’t consulted or warned of Trump’s pronouncements, and had to issue its own late-night comments clarifying that, contrary to Trump’s diktat, only copays for testing, not treatment, would be suspended.

If you expected anything else, if you expected that on this, 1,146th day of his presidency, Trump would be different—that he would finally become presidential—you have been willfully fooling yourself. If, four years ago, you thought ...

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PostPosted: 03/16/20 5:58 pm • # 114 
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I took a lot longer than I thought, and it happened for a different reason than I would have predicted.

I would have put nuclear war before this.


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This is regularly updated - and you can scroll down to see other articles/releases

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... test-news/


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PostPosted: 03/17/20 1:01 pm • # 116 
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"This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," Trump said at a press conference with his coronavirus task force. "All you had to do was look at other countries."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488031-trump-says-he-knew-coronavirus-was-a-pandemic-long-before-it-was

In all my life, I've never seen anyone that lied so consistently and easily as this guy.


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was it a pandemic when he was calling it a hoax?


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PostPosted: 03/17/20 1:36 pm • # 118 
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was it a pandemic when he was calling it a hoax?

Yes - but, in fairness, the WHO hadn't labelled it as such yet.

But that doesn't stop his base from insisting that it's a hoax. Or that it's something invented by North Korea. Or China. Or whatever. All for the sole purpose of bringing down Trump.


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Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo just showed Trump what real LEADERSHIP looks like as he prepares the state of New York to deal with Trump's coronavirus failure.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=276595546662988

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Fox News’ Chris Wallace just CALLED OUT Trump over his misguided policy causing dangerous crowding at American airports.



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Coronavirus latest: First vaccine clinical trials begin in United States
Updates on the respiratory illness that has infected tens of thousands of people and killed several thousand.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00154-w


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Amazon to stop accepting all products other than medical supplies and household staples to its warehouses amid coronavirus crisis — read the memo it just sent sellers
Eugene Kim

    Amazon told sellers and vendors on Tuesday that it was suspending shipments of all nonessential products to its warehouses to deal with the increased workloads following the coronavirus outbreak.

    Amazon is now prioritizing medical supplies, household staples, and other high-demand products to its warehouses until April 5.

    The change only affects shipments to Amazon's warehouses, not the last-mile deliveries to consumers.

    "We are temporarily prioritizing household staples, medical supplies, and other high-demand products coming into our fulfillment centers so that we can more quickly receive, restock, and deliver these products to customers," the message read.

Amazon is blocking all shipments of nonessential products to its warehouses in response to the significant increase in orders it's seeing as the novel coronavirus spreads across the US.

On Tuesday the company told sellers and vendors that it would accept only ...

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And people wonder why no-one believes a thing he says

Video emerges showing Trump talking about cutting pandemic team in 2018, despite saying last week 'I didn't know about it'
Video appears to contradict president's claim of ignorance about the cuts


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 05191.html


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Trump initially underplayed the threat of the novel coronavirus, and that appears to have affected how seriously some Americans, particularly Republicans, are taking the threat of the highly contagious virus.

Just 40% of Republicans now say it is a real threat, down from 72% in February. A majority of Republicans (54%) said they think it has been blown out of proportion, more than double what it was in February (23%).

That will kill between 2-5 million people, vs the 250,000 that would have died even with the best possible care.

Poll: Americans Don't Trust What They're Hearing From Trump On Coronavirus

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/81668003 ... oronavirus


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U.S. Coronavirus Plan Warns Pandemic ‘Will Last 18 Months or Longer’

On Friday, the day that Trump declared a national emergency while taking “no responsibility at all” for his administration’s coronavirus failures, the Department of Health and Human Services warned lawmakers that the pandemic “will last 18 months or longer” and that it could include “multiple waves of illness.” A copy of the unclassified 100-page report obtained by the New York Times also stated that “critical infrastructure and communications channels” between state and local governments “will be stressed and potentially less reliable.”

To prepare, the plan encourages Trump to ...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03 ... onths.html


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Guess Who Previously Owned Health Insurance Co. Operating Coronavirus Testing Website

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/gu ... g-website/


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Medical company threatens to sue volunteers that 3D-printed valves for life-saving coronavirus treatments
The valve typically costs about $11,000 — the volunteers made them for about $1


https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/2118 ... treatments


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“This is such a rapidly moving infection that losing a few days is bad, and losing a couple of weeks is terrible,” Jha said. “Losing 2 months is close to disastrous, and that’s what we did.”

In Coronavirus Testing Ramp-Up, U.S. Called Private Sector in Late
‘Losing a few days is bad, and losing a couple of weeks is terrible’


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-too-late


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Senate coronavirus vote delayed after Rand Paul pushes doomed amendment
Mitch McConnell had said he wanted to pass the bill at "warp speed."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-coronavirus-bill-vote-delayed-after-rand-paul-pushes-doomed-n1162356



'Willfully Choosing Not to Listen to Scientists': DNC Chair Tom Perez Under Fire for Urging States to Hold Primaries Despite Coronavirus Crisis
"That Tom Perez is encouraging this, and threatening states who postpone in-person voting, is criminal."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/willfully-choosing-not-listen-scientists-dnc-chair-tom-perez-under-fire-urging


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PostPosted: 03/18/20 8:48 am • # 125 
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About time.

Trump confirms US-Canada border will be closed to non-essential traffic

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/cor ... Stories%29


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