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PostPosted: 10/15/20 7:34 am • # 901 
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Has anybody heard how Melania's doing. She's infected too.

Not just Melania. Apparently Barron tested positive as well. And, as you might expect, Trump is citing Barron's mild symptoms as a reason to reopen schools. [Completely ignoring how many adults those children will come into contact with - that includes parents, grandparents, teachers and other school staff, bus drivers ... the list goes on.]

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PostPosted: 10/15/20 7:38 am • # 902 
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So, in our little town a restaurant had to shut down for a few days because a customer who came in tested positive for Covid. They got their results while in the restaurant! They are suppose to isolate until they get results if they have been sick. But NOOOO, they had to go pick up food possibly exposing everyone who was in there at the time. No telling where else they had been. Grocery stores etc. Dumbasses caused the restaurant to lose business, caused them to do a deep clean/sanitizing and employees to lose wages because they are selfish little twats. Luckily all employees tested negative, but with the incubation period not over I hope they get tested again.
What I don't understand is that the government told the restaurant that because the customer was only in there less than 15min, it is unlikely anyone was exposed. HUH?


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PostPosted: 10/15/20 9:55 am • # 904 
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Watching Canadian news this morning. Toronto has shut down all indoor dining and closed gyms. But it seems that people from Toronto are driving to neighboring regions to use the gyms there - the news was showing a pic of one of the gyms in a suburb outside of Toronto city limits where the lineups were extending completely around the building.


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PostPosted: 10/15/20 11:23 am • # 905 
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The private gyms here are still open but under strict regulation. I go to a Trevor Linden gym. The process is that you have to make an on-line appointment to go and only a certain number are allowed in at any time. They're strict about it too. When your hour is up they clear everyone out before allowing any of the next hour's people in. Once up on the gym floor the machines are all set to enforce social distancing (extra machines are just turned off or taped off). Then, once you've used a machine, there are sanitizing wipe stations throughout the gym and you are supposed to wipe down the machine you've been using (just about everybody does it). Then once in the morning, afternoon and evening the gym is closed and the crew go through and sanitize everything. It's not perfect but so far the process seems to have done the job. There have been no reports of outbreaks at any gyms.


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PostPosted: 10/15/20 12:38 pm • # 906 
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Poor numerical literacy linked to greater susceptibility to Covid-19 fake news
Cambridge University study also suggests older people less likely to believe coronavirus misinformation


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People with poor numerical literacy are more likely to believe Covid-19 misinformation, according to a survey conducted in five countries.

Researchers at Cambridge University said the findings suggested improving people’s analytical skills could help turn the tide against an epidemic of “fake news” surrounding the health crisis.

Five national surveys – reflecting national quotas for age and gender – were conducted this year to evaluate susceptibility to coronavirus-related misinformation and its influence on key health-related behaviours.

The study found the most consistent predictor of decreased susceptibility to misinformation about Covid-19 was numerical literacy – the ability to digest and apply quantitative information broadly.

People in Ireland, Spain, Mexico, the US and the UK took part in the study. Their numerical literacy levels were calculated on the basis of three different numeracy tests.

Participants were presented with nine statements about Covid-19, some false (for example, 5G networks may be making us more susceptible to the coronavirus) and some true (for instance, people with diabetes are at higher risk of complications from coronavirus).

Participants were also asked about their risk perception of Covid-19, what extent they complied with ...

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Three-quarters of hospitalized COVID-19 patients have symptoms months later: UBC study

Dozens of people in the Vancouver area who were previously hospitalized with COVID-19 have been tracked by UBC researchers, who found the majority are still reporting symptoms months after their initial illness.

Of the study's 78 participants, 76 per cent reported changes to their quality of life, including weakness, problems sleeping, anxiety and shortness of breath.

“When we did breathing tests for people three months after symptom onset, over half of those patients had ...

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PostPosted: 10/15/20 2:56 pm • # 908 
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36 states see surge in cases. No states on the decline




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PostPosted: 10/15/20 3:38 pm • # 909 
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Herd immunity for the sheeple.


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PostPosted: 10/15/20 4:27 pm • # 910 
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Herd immunity for the sheeple.

herd immunity = mass murder


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PostPosted: 10/18/20 4:48 am • # 911 
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"CDC comes out with a statement that 85% of the people wearing masks catch it." ~ Trump, saying something that is not true

"He's one of the great experts of the world." ~ Trump on medical adviser Dr. Scott Atlas, a neuro-radiologist, who thinks COVID-19 should be allowed to infect a majority of people


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PostPosted: 10/18/20 7:43 am • # 912 
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But ... But ... But Trump said ...

Remdesivir doesn’t reduce COVID-19 deaths, a large WHO trial finds
An international study found no benefit of the drug or three others

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Remdesivir, an antiviral drug that was the first found to combat COVID-19, doesn’t reduce deaths from the disease, a large international study found.

The World Health Organization’s Solidarity trial, which combined data from 405 hospitals in 30 countries, randomly assigned more than 11,000 people hospitalized with COVID-19 to receive one of four drugs or standard care, which could include other drugs such as steroids. The tested drugs include remdesivir, the antimalaria drug hydroxychloroquine, an anti-HIV drug called lopinavir and interferon-beta1a. Interferon is an immune system chemical that triggers the body’s antiviral defenses.

None of the drugs showed any benefit in reducing deaths, the need for ventilation or the length of hospital stays, researchers report October 15 in a preliminary study posted at medRxiv.org. The work has not been vetted by other scientists yet, and some analyses may change during the peer-review process, experts say.

Other studies had already shown that neither lopinavir — given in combination with ritonavir, a drug that boosts lopinavir’s levels in the body — nor hydroxychloroquine were effective against the novel coronavirus (SN: 3/19/20; SN: 8/2/20). These studies, in addition to the new data, deliver a clear message that those drugs are not helpful for ...

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Ooooh shit .....

Covid-19 virus can survive up to 28 days, scientists say
The virus that causes Covid-19 can survive on banknotes, glass and stainless steel for up to 28 days at room temperature, researches in Australia discovered.


https://www.nbcnews.com/video/covid-19- ... 3665350002


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PostPosted: 10/22/20 7:11 am • # 914 
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Debunking the False Claim That COVID Death Counts Are Inflated
President Trump, a congressman and conspiracy fantasists have repeated the myth. But three kinds of evidence point to more than 218,000 U.S. deaths


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PostPosted: 10/27/20 4:21 am • # 915 
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"We are not going to control the pandemic...Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu." ~ White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows

"We want normal life to resume. We just want normal life." ~ Trump


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PostPosted: 10/27/20 6:07 am • # 916 
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shiftless2 wrote:
"We are not going to control the pandemic...Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu." ~ White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows

"We want normal life to resume. We just want normal life." ~ Trump


I'm sure those who are dead and those who are "long haulers" suffering from the effects of the virus would be happy to return to "abnormal" life if they could be alive and healthy. :(


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White House Declares Pandemic Over As It Cites Renowned Scientist Ivanka Trump
The president's daughter, of course, has no training or background as a scientific expert.

By Chris D'Angelo

The Trump administration triumphantly declared victory over the coronavirus pandemic on Tuesday, one week before the 2020 election and with COVID-19 cases surging across the country.

The lie came in a news release on a new 62-page report from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy listing what it claims are the scientific and technological accomplishments during President Donald Trump’s first term. The list includes, “ENDING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.”

“From the outset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the administration has taken decisive actions to engage scientists and health professionals in academia, industry, and government to understand, treat, and defeat the disease,” the release states.

The pandemic is far from over. It is raging from coast to coast, thanks in no small part to the Trump administration’s mishandled response. A recent report from Columbia University estimates that the “abject failures” of government agencies under Trump resulted in between 130,000 and 210,000 avoidable deaths attributable to COVID-19.

As of Tuesday, the disease’s U.S. fatality toll topped 226,000 and the nation is averaging more than 70,000 new cases per day.

From the beginning of the outbreak, Trump has been at war not with COVID-19, but rather COVID-19 science and data. He has repeatedly downplayed the health threat, blamed China and the World Health Organization for the pandemic, attacked the nation’s top infectious disease expert and mocked his election opponent, Democrat Joe Biden, for vowing to listen to scientists as president.

At the final presidential debate last week, he falsely claimed that America is “rounding the turn” and “learning to live with” the coronavirus pandemic ― falsehoods that he has been repeating on the campaign trail.

Among other White House officials, Tuesday’s release includes a quote from Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and adviser who has zero training or background as a scientific expert.

“Over the past four years, President Trump’s policies and investments in science and technology ensure America stands ready to solve today’s most pressing challenges and that our workforce is prepared for tomorrow’s innovations,” Ivanka Trump said. “For years to come, these achievements will guarantee the ...

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PostPosted: 10/30/20 9:53 pm • # 918 
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In case this wasn't posted...


Donald Trump Jr. says Covid deaths are 'almost nothing' on a day reporting 90,000 infected, 1,000 dead

https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-jr-says-covid-111904346.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb


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More than 80% of COVID patients vitamin D deficient: study
This is the latest preliminary research on the role of vitamin D in COVID-19.


https://www.healthing.ca/diseases-and-c ... -deficient


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PostPosted: 10/31/20 8:35 am • # 920 
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shiftless2 wrote:
oskar576 wrote:
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Herd immunity for the sheeple.

herd immunity = mass murder


I was trying to be punny.


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PostPosted: 11/03/20 3:59 pm • # 921 
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Did a quick calculation. New York State has 7x the death rate compared to Ontario.


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Mike Pence Falsely Takes Credit for Pfizer Vaccine, Is Promptly Told to F--k Off
Ivanka Trump has also credited President Daddy with the good news.

BY BESS LEVIN

As you’ve probably heard by now, over the weekend Donald Trump was projected as having lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden, in part due to his disgraceful response to the COVID-19 pandemic, wherein he effectively just let the virus spiral out of control, leading to the deaths of nearly 238,000 in the U.S. Because he’s mortifyingly delusional, though, he believes that (1) he still has a chance at being reelected, hence the refusal to concede, and (2) the news that Pfizer’s vaccine is more than 90% effective in early trials and may be available by the end of the year is somehow a credit to him.

Taking a break from tweeting clips about election fraud that were immediately flagged for spreading false information, a.k.a. the only kind of information he spreads, Trump tweeted: “STOCK MARKET UP BIG, VACCINE COMING SOON. REPORT 90% EFFECTIVE. SUCH GREAT NEWS!” Later Mike Pence took things a step further:

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HUGE NEWS: Thanks to the public-private partnership forged by President
@realDonaldTrump @pfizer announced its Coronavirus Vaccine trial is EFFECTIVE, preventing infection in 90% of its volunteers.

https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1 ... 9335921667

And because virtually everything out of this administration’s collective mouth is a lie, and an entire cottage industry of fact-checking has necessarily cropped up around it, Pence’s statement was immediately debunked—by Pfizer itself. Speaking to the New York Times, Dr. Kathrin Jansen, a senior vice president and the head of vaccine research and development at the company, said, “We were never part of the Warp Speed,” referring to the government’s effort to rapidly develop a vaccine. “We have never taken any money from the U.S. government, or from ...

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PostPosted: 11/10/20 6:15 pm • # 923 
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Effective Thursday, November 12, all restaurants, bars, clubs, and lounges that serve food and drink must close their indoor premises for business by 10 pm each day and cannot open until at least 5 am the following day. Outdoor dining, takeout, and delivery services may continue past 10 pm.

I'm all for controlling COVID, but I really can't figure out how this will help anything.


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PostPosted: 11/11/20 1:43 pm • # 924 
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Maybe they are assuming that the restaurants, bars, etc. are complying with the Covid regulations but that it gets more difficult for them to enforce the rules after 10 p.m. The delivery and take-out part I have no problem with. Otherwise I agree it seems kind of pointless.


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PostPosted: 11/11/20 6:44 pm • # 925 
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jimwilliam wrote:
Maybe they are assuming that the restaurants, bars, etc. are complying with the Covid regulations but that it gets more difficult for them to enforce the rules after 10 p.m. The delivery and take-out part I have no problem with. Otherwise I agree it seems kind of pointless.


Could be. I guess people are generally more intoxicated as the night goes on. lol


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