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PostPosted: 03/18/20 11:25 am • # 126 
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On Fox News, suddenly a very different tune about the coronavirus


For weeks, some of Fox News’s most popular hosts downplayed the threat of the coronavirus, characterizing it as a conspiracy by media organizations and Democrats to undermine President Trump.
Fox News personalities such as Sean Hannity and Laura In­graham accused the news media of whipping up “mass hysteria” and being “panic pushers.” Fox Business host Trish Regan called the alleged media-Democratic alliance “yet another attempt to impeach the president.”

But that was then.

With Trump’s declaration on Friday that the virus constitutes a national emergency, the tone on Fox News has quickly shifted.
On his program on Friday, Hannity — the most watched figure on cable news — lauded the president’s handling of what the host is now, belatedly, referring to as a “crisis.”

“Tonight, we are witnessing what will be a massive paradigm shift in the future of disease control and prevention,” he said. “A bold, new precedent is being set, the world will once again benefit greatly from America’s leadership. . . . The federal government, state governments, private businesses, top hospitals all coming together, under the president’s leadership, to stem the tide of the coronavirus.”

In all, it has been a complicated dance for a network whose hosts are among Trump’s most ardent boosters and defenders — an increasingly challenging position to take as the crisis grew in magnitude. Trump, meanwhile, has ....

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PostPosted: 03/18/20 6:25 pm • # 127 
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Just in case you thought the problems were restricted to the US ...

The UK Only Realised "In The Last Few Days" That Its Coronavirus Strategy Would "Likely Result In Hundreds of Thousands of Deaths"
Scientists advising the government say an aggressive new approach adopted to attempt to "suppress" the virus may have to be in place for 18 months.

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The UK only realised "in the last few days" that attempts to "mitigate" the impact of the coronavirus pandemic would not work, and that it needed to shift to a strategy to "suppress" the outbreak, according to a report by a team of experts who have been advising the government.

The report, published by the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team on Monday night, found that the strategy previously being pursued by the government — dubbed "mitigation" and involving home isolation of suspect cases and their family members but not including restrictions on wider society — would "likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over".

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PostPosted: 03/19/20 5:19 am • # 128 
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Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China
Shares in Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed favipiravir, surged after praise by Chinese official following clinical trials


Medical authorities in China have said a drug used in Japan to treat new strains of influenza appeared to be effective in coronavirus patients, Japanese media said on Wednesday.

Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients.

“It has a high degree of safety and is clearly effective in treatment,” Zhang told reporters on Tuesday.

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PostPosted: 03/19/20 7:17 am • # 129 
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How convenient in an election year.

US government is preparing for coronavirus pandemic that could last up to 18 months and 'include multiple waves of illness'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/u ... Stories%29


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PostPosted: 03/19/20 7:45 am • # 130 
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How convenient in an election year.

US government is preparing for coronavirus pandemic that could last up to 18 months and 'include multiple waves of illness'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/u ... Stories%29

Definitely convenient but what effect it's going to have on the results (probably) depends on how many people in the US get sick or die between now and then.

And I have no faith that the official numbers results will be anywhere near the truth.


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PostPosted: 03/19/20 8:59 am • # 131 
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Unless there's no election.


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PostPosted: 03/19/20 9:30 am • # 132 
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AIR Estimates for COVID-19

According to catastrophe risk modeling firm AIR Worldwide, as of March 17, 147 countries, areas, or territories reported confirmed cases of COVID-19. The country most affected by the outbreak has been China, which has reported 82,007 cases and 3,338 deaths; however, China has also reported that the number of new cases there has continued to decline due to early and aggressive containment measures. Outside China, a total of 102,968 cases of COVID-19 have been reported, with 4,191 deaths. South Korea has reported 8,320 cases and 81 deaths; new cases there have also been reported to be declining. The largest outbreak is currently in Italy with 27,980 cases and 2,158 deaths, followed by Iran with 16,169 cases and 988 deaths, and Spain with 11,178 cases and 491 deaths. Case numbers are growing in the United States as testing is expanding, with 3,536 confirmed cases and 58 deaths from the disease.

"Based on the estimations and projections from the AIR Pandemic Model, we estimate that this may represent a moderately conservative projection of cases; the vast majority will be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms,” said Dr. Narges Dorratoltaj, senior scientist at AIR Worldwide. “AIR projections also suggest that the number of mild to moderately symptomatic cases globally from March 18 to April 1 could range between 600,000 and 2,000,000, and the number of severe cases could range between 200,000 and 900,000, with deaths ranging from 10,000 to 30,500.”

AIR’s model-based estimates account for uncertainty and underreporting. Mild to moderate symptoms are the types of cases least likely to be captured in the official numbers, but even for severe cases and deaths, it is likely that there will be significant underreporting.

Dr. Dorratoltaj noted, “The difference between the low and high ends of the range is driven by a few factors. Uncertainty in the reported number of confirmed cases and the transmissibility of the virus play a significant role. Specifically, the lower end of the range represents a scenario where a) the true number of cases is relatively closer to what has been reported than estimated, and b) the possibility that containment measures (such as social distancing and quarantine) become more successful in reducing the transmission. If such containment measures—driven by international and/or local authorities—are successful, this could restrict the human-to-human transmission sufficiently to bring the eventual number of cases to or even below the low end of the modeled projected range of cases.”

On Wednesday, March 11, the World Health Organization (WHO) announced they had assessed that COVID-19 could be characterized as a pandemic. According to the WHO report issued as of 11 a.m. ET on March 17, 2020, there were 184,975 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the newly emergent SARS-CoV-2 virus, and 7,529 deaths worldwide; actual counts are likely to be higher due to underreporting. Efforts at containment have been showing success in slowing the spread of the virus in China as well as in a handful of other countries such as South Korea. At this point, transmission of the disease continues in Iran, and has been increasing substantially in several European countries and the United States, with increases expected in more countries.

This is the first pandemic caused by a coronavirus, according to the WHO. The virus responds well to comprehensive containment measures, as reported in China and South Korea. Governments around the world have now moved to reduce their citizens' movements and tighten borders. In addition, flights have been canceled; bars and restaurants have been closed; conferences, festivals, concerts, and sporting events have been canceled or postponed; and further closures of schools and universities have been announced.

On Friday, March 13, the WHO stated that Europe had become the epicenter of the pandemic, with the majority of new cases coming from this region, outpacing China. Italy has been hit particularly hard, with 22% of their population age 65 or older and more vulnerable to the virus. The Italian government placed the entire country under quarantine on March 9. France and Spain also implemented lockdowns after the three EU states recorded their highest death tolls for a single day on Sunday, March 15.

The United States declared a national emergency on Friday, March 13. Travel restrictions to and from Europe were imposed, and travelers flying back from Europe faced long waits at major airports as the expanded coronavirus screenings were implemented. On Sunday, March 15, the U.S Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommended organizers cancel or postpone events with 50 people or more for 8 weeks, while some states have banned large gatherings altogether. The United States has had limited testing capacity in the early stages of disease spread, and the number of available test kits remains limited, obscuring case numbers. Cases were confirmed in 49 states, plus Washington, D.C. and three U.S. territories, as of Monday at 10 a.m., with New York, Washington, California, and Massachusetts reporting the highest case numbers.

On the treatment front, several countries have reported a shortage of ventilators for those in danger of lung failure—a major cause of death from this disease—and they are attempting to acquire more. Some antivirals originally developed against other viral infections such as Ebola or HIV, are being repurposed and tested in COVID-19 clinical trials. Researchers and scientists across the world are working to develop effective treatment and a vaccine for COVID-19. During the week of March 16, a clinical trial to test a coronavirus vaccine starts with testing the vaccine on 45 healthy volunteers; however, a successful vaccine will not be available for a year or more.

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The AIR Pandemic Model total cases for March 25, 2020, including individuals who are mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic. This number is higher than the reported cases due to the fact that individuals with mild symptoms may not seek medical care and therefore go unreported. (Source: AIR)


Current observations suggest that a high proportion of infected individuals with the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, develop very mild and nonspecific symptoms. Therefore, they may not seek medical care and may not be counted in the published figures. Moderately symptomatic individuals usually experience fever, fatigue, and dry cough, and may ask for medical care. According to the China Center for Disease Control (CCDC), 81% of studied patients experienced mild to moderate symptoms and 14% of patients experienced severe symptoms; these severe symptoms include pneumonia, shortness of breath and, in more complicated cases, about 5% of patients according to CCDC, experienced acute respiratory distress syndrome, arrhythmia, and shock. A smaller percentage of patients also develop gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms, such as nausea and diarrhea. Intensive care unit (ICU) admission has been higher among people over 60 years of age with pre-existing comorbidities.

Dr. Dorratoltaj concluded, “There is high uncertainty around the fatality of the disease; however, it is estimated that COVID-19 has a higher case fatality rate (CFR) compared to seasonal flu (~0.1%) and a lower CFR compared to the 2003 SARS outbreak (~5.0%-10.0%). The current estimation for the average CFR ranges between 0.5% and 4%. According to the CCDC, among more than 72,000 patient records, with 86% of cases between 30 and 79 years old, current estimation for CFR ranges between 0.5% and 4%. CFR is estimated to be more than 5% for individuals with pre-existing conditions such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory conditions, hypertension, and cancer, and more than 8% for people older than 70 years old.”

Currently there is no specific treatment available for this disease other than supportive care. There are some antivirals and other treatments currently being used to treat patients. So far, fatality is most common in older patients, with more than 80% of deaths occurring in people over 60 years of age, more than 40% of whom have one or more pre-existing known co-morbidities, including cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and malignancies. It is also important to note that people who are more than 60 years old are generally at higher risk for any type of pneumonia and not just COVID-19 pneumonia. For these reasons, an overall increase in cases of the virus does not imply a commensurate increase in fatalities.

In countries with robust healthcare systems, any imported cases would most likely be contained with few or no transmissions to additional people—provided that cases are rapidly identified, and appropriate infection control protocols are followed. However, the current increase in the number of cases in some countries outside of China shows that there has been silent transmission that started in clusters and expanded to communities before health officials were able to contain them completely.

AIR continues to monitor the COVID-19 outbreak and will provide updates as warranted.

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For those not familiar with it the source contains a brief description of AIR - those of us in insurance (especially reinsurance) are familiar with the company.


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PostPosted: 03/19/20 10:22 am • # 133 
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Four Theories for Why People Are Still Out Partying
Our moral instincts don’t match this crisis.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... us/608305/


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COVID-19 mortality was 1.4% in outbreak epicentre: study

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Further to Post #33 above

Photographer Captures Trump’s Handwritten ‘Chinese’ Virus Revision On Speech Script
The president’s transcript changes “corona” to the dog-whistle misnomer as he dodges criticism of his administration’s failures in addressing COVID-19.

By Mary Papenfuss

An enterprising Washington Post photographer captured a startling image of President Donald Trump’s altered news conference script Thursday showing what appeared to be his own handwritten change from “corona” to “Chinese” to form “Chinese virus.”

It appeared he used his favorite reality-altering tool: a black Sharpie.

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Coronavirus: California orders its nearly 40 million residents to stay home

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/co ... spartandhp


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PostPosted: 03/20/20 8:15 am • # 138 
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Weeks Before Virus Panic, Intelligence Chairman Privately Raised Alarm, Sold Stocks

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/81819253 ... n-covid-19

He's not the only one

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4 U.S. senators sold stock after getting coronavirus threat briefings in January

https://fortune.com/2020/03/20/senators ... n-january/


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So it took the US government 2 months to react?


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PostPosted: 03/20/20 9:09 am • # 140 
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No - it took Trump two months to do anything. He'd been telling the world (or at least America) that this was no big deal. Just a hoax intended to bring him down. And like his hurricane map there is no way he's going to admit he was wrong. And since all government communication is supposed to go thru Pence (and has been otherwise classified) nothing was going to happen until Trump admitted that "he knew it was a pandemic before it was called a pandemic"


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PostPosted: 03/20/20 9:37 am • # 141 
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The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

The draft report, marked “not to be disclosed,” laid out in stark detail repeated cases of “confusion” in the exercise. Federal agencies jockeyed over who was in charge. State officials and hospitals struggled to figure out what kind of equipment was stockpiled or available. Cities and states went their own ways on school closings.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/p ... break.html


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Third person at Mar-a-Lago with Trump tests positive for coronavirus

By Laura Italiano

A third person who visited President Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort last weekend has tested positive for the coronavirus.

Acting Brazil Charge d’Affaires Ambassador Nestor Forster, who sat at Trump’s table during dinner at the resort Saturday night, has tested positive, the Brazilian Embassy said late Friday.

Another Brazilian official — Fabio Wajngarten, communications secretary for President Jair Bolsonaro — had tested positive on Wednesday after posing for a photo with Trump and dining with him on Saturday night.

Bolsonaro and his contingent also met with Vice President Mike Pence, Trump’s daughter and senior advisor Ivanka Trump,and personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

An unnamed attendee at a Trump fundraising luncheon at the resort on Sunday has also tested positive.

President Trump said earlier Friday that “fairly soon” he will “likely” take a coronavirus test.

“We’re working on a schedule,” Trump said of his own testing plans, noting that he had no symptoms.

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PostPosted: 03/20/20 12:41 pm • # 143 
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"What do you say to Americans who are scared though? I guess, nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions, as you witnessed, who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?" - Peter Alexander NBC News

“I say that you’re a terrible reporter. That’s what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question.” - President Trump


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Updated: WHO Now Doesn't Recommend Avoiding Ibuprofen For COVID-19 Symptoms

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On the contrary - NOW is the time ....

Rubio: 'Now is not that time' to look into Trump's coronavirus failings

By Oliver Willis

We will have time, later on in the future, to examine all the decisions that were made,' the Florida senator said this week.

From the March 17 edition of Fox News' "Fox & Friends":

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SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL): This is a huge event that's happening and for our country it's very impactful. That makes partisan bickering and potshots at this point trivial. We will have time, later on in the future, to examine all the decisions that were made and to figure out who made mistakes so we can prevent it from happening again. And people will be held to account.

Now is not that time.

Now is the time to act, to keep this from being worse than it needs to be, and we can't do that if we spend all our time taking political potshots or arguing over ideological purity.


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PostPosted: 03/21/20 3:12 am • # 146 
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Ok.

I'm "acting". I'm staying at home, washing my hands, keeping a distance between myself and others when I do have to leave the house.

But I find that if you are stuck at home you can't really do all that much. So its the perfect time to examine the decisions that are currently being made.

Hopefully people will do that.


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That's what you get when the President is more concerned about being reelected than he is about the country

Confirmed Coronavirus Cases Are Growing Faster In The United States Than Any Other Country In The World


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As coronavirus (COVID-19) spreads across the globe, each country hopes that it has the ability to slow its growth in their own country.

As of today, the United States falls in last place with regard to limiting COVID-19 growth according to ...

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#47 I should think that the rate of testing could seriously skew the numbers.


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The rate of testing could definitely skew the grow rates. Unfortunately the lack of testing means the actual number of infected is probably significantly higher than the official figures show

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Substantial undocumented infection facilitates the rapid dissemination of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2)

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PostPosted: 03/21/20 12:12 pm • # 150 
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My personal feeling is that this thing is f*cking serious and that there will be tens of millions of deaths before it's over.


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