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PostPosted: 05/29/20 10:15 am • # 1 
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Apparently it's liberty and justice for some

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Trump is starting to panic.


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Twitter flags Trump, White House for ‘glorifying violence’ after tweeting Minneapolis looting will lead to ‘shooting’
Tony Romm and Allyson Chiu

President Trump took to Twitter early Friday to condemn Minneapolis demonstrators as “THUGS,” threaten military intervention and predict local looting could lead to “shooting,” prompting the social-media company to take the unprecedented step of limiting the public’s ability to view and share his tweet.

The label Twitter appended -- which the company also added later to a tweet from the White House -- marks the second time in a week the tech giant has taken action in response to Trump’s controversial remarks. Trump and his allies again decried the move as censorship, promising to regulate the company a day after he signed an executive order that could open the door for the U.S. government to punish social-media sites for their handling of political speech online.

Trump fired off his early morning comment as protests over the death of George Floyd intensified in Minneapolis. Fires raged across the city Thursday night as demonstrators took to the streets because Floyd, who was black, died in police custody. The unrest has reverberated nationwide, including in Louisville, where ...

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Trump says protesters would have met 'vicious dogs' if White House fence breached
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WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday said demonstrators protesting the death of a black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck would have been “greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen.”

Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser, a Democrat, responded to the Republican president on Twitter, saying there “are no vicious dogs & ominous weapons. There is just a scared man.”

“While he (Trump) hides behind his fence afraid/alone, I stand w/people peacefully exercising their First Amendment Right after the murder of #GeorgeFloyd and hundreds of years of institutionalized racism,” said Bowser, who is black.

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Trump Wants The Military Ready to Deploy to Minneapolis. Here’s What The Law Says About Posse Comitatus.
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PostPosted: 05/31/20 2:20 pm • # 6 
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Hmmmmm ....

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PostPosted: 05/31/20 4:37 pm • # 7 
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My daughter has been very upset by all this. Yes, it's upsetting. Yes, some cops are behaving like monsters. Yes, some who are protesting are looting and setting things on fire. And sadly no...this isn't the first time for those things to go on.

We realized last night that this IS the first time she's really followed along with such a situation via social media. She's watching live feeds, she's watching videos. Aha! THAT'S why it's hitting her so hard. So I told her to take a break. lol


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"Big crowd, professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and the most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That's when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. 'We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and good practice.'" ~ Trump


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IMO, MacArthur and Patton are phonies.


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shiftless2 wrote:
"Big crowd, professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and the most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That's when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. 'We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and good practice.'" ~ Trump

He tweeted that from the bunker under the WH, didn't he, the shivering, frightened weasel?


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PostPosted: 06/01/20 7:52 am • # 12 
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Interesting that Trump has stated that ANTIFA will be designated a terrorist organization:

Nazis killed 405,000 Americans in WW2
•Not designated as terror org

KKK killed 5,000+ Americans since 1865
•Not designated as terror org

White Nationalists killed 313 Americans since 1995
•Not designated as terror org

Antifa killed 0 Americans—ever
•This is a terror org

*I didn't research, but am certain the the first three have killed Americans....


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jabra2 wrote:
shiftless2 wrote:
"Big crowd, professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and the most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That's when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. 'We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and good practice.'" ~ Trump

He tweeted that from the bunker under the WH, didn't he, the shivering, frightened weasel?

Yep - this is the "man" who claimed he would have run into a school to confront an armed shooter.


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'When the Country Needed Leadership, Trump Turned Off the Lights': White House Goes Dark as Protests Over Killing of George Floyd Rage Across Nation
"This is eerily symbolic of the Trump administration."

byJake Johnson

As massive protests over the police killing of George Floyd raged outside of the White House, across the nation's capital, and around the United States on Sunday, the external floodlights that typically keep the White House illuminated at night were shut off as President Donald Trump remained out of sight and silent—with the exception of occasional incendiary outbursts on Twitter.

It is not clear why the White House lights were cut, but critics viewed the move as symbolic of the country's lack of leadership during a time of nationwide sorrow, anger, and crisis. Trump has yet to deliver a formal address to the nation on either Floyd's killing or the nationwide uprising it sparked, opting instead to attack demonstrators on Twitter and celebrate the brutal response by law enforcement.

"Mr. Trump spent Sunday out of sight, even as some of his campaign advisers were recommending that he deliver a nationally televised address," the New York Times reported. "The building was even emptier than usual as some White House officials planning to work were told not to come in case of renewed unrest."

Late Friday, according to the Times, the president was rushed by Secret Service agents to a secure underground bunker as protests erupted outside of the White House.

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Cadet Bone Spurs ran away… again.


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Cadet Bone Spurs ran away… again.

While calling the governors weak.


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“True peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice.” ~ MLK


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That order was reversed by the Mayor https://tinyurl . com/yc783oy9

But he did qualify that with "IF WE KNOW YOU" - just how many journalists (credentialed or otherwise) will the police know - he just handed them the ultimate get out of jail free card


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Seems many "authorities" are in a state of near-panic and aren't sure what to do next.


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lay down their arms, and march with us.


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lay down their arms, and march with us.

Some police have done that. And been welcomed with open arms.


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Barr personally ordered removal of protesters near White House, leading to use of force against largely peaceful crowd
By Carol D. Leonnig, Matt Zapotosky and Rebecca Tan

Attorney General William P. Barr personally ordered law enforcement officials on the ground to clear the streets around Lafayette Square just before President Trump spoke Monday, a Justice Department official said, a directive that prompted a show of aggression against a crowd of largely peaceful protesters, drawing widespread condemnation.

Officers from the U.S. Park Police and other agencies used smoke canisters, riot shields, batons and officers on horseback to shove and chase people gathered to protest the death of George Floyd. At one point, a line of police rushed a group of protesters standing on H Street NW, many of whom were standing still with their hands up, forcing them to race away, coughing from smoke. Some were struck by rubber bullets.

Secret Service officers then surrounded the area and created a protective zone for President Trump, who moments later crossed the street and made an appearance outside St. John’s Church.

On Tuesday, however, federal officials offered conflicting reasons for the forcible removal of the protesters, seeking to separate the move from Trump’s visit to the church.

The White House asserted that the crowd was dispersed to help enforce the city’s 7 p.m. curfew. Meanwhile, two federal law enforcement officials said the decision had been made late Sunday or early Monday to extend the perimeter around Lafayette Square by one block.

The plan was to be executed, according to the Justice Department official, the following afternoon. Barr was a part of the decision-making process, said the official, who was not authorized to comment ahead of Barr addressing the matter himself publicly and who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The Justice Department official said that in the afternoon, Barr went to survey the scene and found the perimeter had not been extended. The attorney general conferred with law enforcement officials on the ground.

“He conferred with them to check on the status and basically said: ‘This needs to be done. Get it done,’ ” the Justice Department official said.

Police soon moved on the protesters.

Throughout Tuesday, several federal agencies involved in the response declined to answer questions about who ordered the use of force and the clearing of the park, which occurred just before Trump’s visit to the park.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on who gave the order, referring questions to law enforcement agencies. The Secret Service declined to comment. A spokesman for the U.S. Park Police said the agency would have a statement but did not provide one as of Tuesday afternoon.

Defense officials on Tuesday said the National Guard did not participate in the decision to clear Lafayette Square on Monday evening and did not take part in firing any rubber bullets or gas.

D.C. city officials said they were not involved in the decision to use force, which Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) called “shameful.”

“I didn’t see any provocation that would warrant the deployment of munitions, and especially for the purpose of moving the president across the street,” the mayor said at a Tuesday news conference.

Trump had directed Barr to personally “lead” the response to the unrest in D.C. on Monday night, according to a Justice Department spokeswoman. Less than an hour before police moved to clear the peaceful demonstrators from in front of Lafayette Square, Barr was spotted on video talking to officials at the scene.

Around the same time, the White House deputy chief of operations, Tony Ornato, contacted the Secret Service to arrange for the president to make a brief, unplanned appearance outside St. John’s Church, according to two people familiar with the plans. Following protocol, the Secret Service alerted other law enforcement agencies that it would need help clearing the area for the president’s safety, they said.

Black-clad officers and agents of the Secret Service’s civil disturbance unit stood by during the tense confrontation with protesters and then helped secure the emptied-out streets.

About 30 minutes after the protesters were removed, Trump arrived at the church and posed for a photograph outside it, holding a Bible.

The Justice Department official said Barr “assumed that any resistance from the protesters of being moved would be met with typical crowd-control measures.”

The official said Barr had been told on the scene that there were reports of the crowd passing rocks among themselves and that a bottle had been thrown in his direction. Washington Post reporters who were at the square did not witness protesters using any rocks.

The official defended Barr’s decision. “This plan was happening, regardless of any plans of the president,” the official said.

The use of such aggressive force startled some veteran former officers of the Secret Service and other federal agencies, because it appeared to be rushed and unprovoked by protesters.

The line of officers rushing protesters, many of whom were standing still with their arms in the air, violated the normal protocol for clearing protesters, something the Secret Service accomplishes dozens of times a year in Lafayette Square without ever tossing smoke canisters or using riot shields.

“Usually officers hold a line and don’t move forward unless there is provocation,” said one former Secret Service agent who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe operational procedures. “The officers give constant warnings and communicate clearly with the crowd. But here it seems like there is some time pressure; they were acting like a bomb is about to go off.”

Another veteran former Secret Service agent who reviewed video of the treatment of protesters said he feared that the order from Barr signaled a worrisome shift in who calls the shots about deploying use of force.

“We protect the president,” he said of the Secret Service. “We don’t report to the president. It feels like that line has now been blurred.”

A few Republicans express discomfort with Trump’s church visit after protesters were cleared

The Secret Service, which has the legal power to clear any area for the president’s safety, did not respond to questions seeking an explanation of its decision-making.

“For operational security reasons, the U.S. Secret Service does not discuss our protective means and methods,” the agency said in a statement.

White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement that “the perimeter was expanded to help enforce the 7 p.m. curfew in the same area where rioters attempted to burn down one of our nation’s most historic churches the night before. Protesters were given three warnings by the U.S. Park Police.”

However, reporters who were on the scene and protesters said they could not make out any audible warnings.

Zach Slavin, 32, said he was leaning against the metal barricade separating authorities from protesters when he saw the line of officers starting to move up in coordinated bursts. He heard “mumbled announcements” over the loudspeaker but was not able to discern what was being said.

“There was absolutely nothing that was understandable,” said Slavin, adding that he had been following police guidance throughout the day.

At 6:30 p.m., Slavin said, officers passed instructions down the line, then suddenly burst forward past the barricade. A thick cloud descended over the crowd, he said, and armed officers on foot started firing rubber pellets at people.

“There was no warning,” Slavin said. With a bandanna around his face, Slavin began coughing and felt gas stinging his eyes, he said. As he tried to break free from the crowd, several canisters were dropped a few feet away from him and exploded. These explosives were dropped in the middle of the crowd, within several feet of at least a hundred people or more, he said. Officers continued firing rubber pellets at protesters who were already backing up.

The officers “were acting like terrorists,” said Slavin, an 11-year D.C. resident. “I was being chased by police on the streets of my own city.”

Park Police spokesman Eduardo Delgado disputed that officers were not at risk. He said that officers were provoked by protesters throwing frozen water bottles and that there were other indicators of more-serious potential harm the crowd could do.

“We had intel that there were glass bottles they had stashed at the church to throw at us,” Delgado said. “They had caches of supplies, bricks.”

However, Arlington County Manager Mark Schwartz said the county police had been directed Monday night “to clear a section of H Street so the President could walk over to St. John’s for a photo op,” he said. “The mutual aid agreement is not put in place to allow for a blatantly political act. Crowd control is a far cry from assisting someone to stand in front of a church.”

Arlington County Board Chair Libby Garvey (D) said Tuesday that Arlington police were taken by surprise Monday evening when they were “urgently” told to clear H Street. “All our guys knew was they were supposed to help clear H Street to the edges so new barriers could be put in place,” Garvey said, after a briefing by Arlington Police Chief Jay Farr. “Our guys never pulled their batons. They used their shields. Suddenly, it became urgent. Even the Secret Service didn’t know until minutes before that the president was going to come through. ”

Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.), chairman of the House Oversight subcommittee with jurisdiction over the nation’s capital, wrote to Secret Service Director James Murray on Tuesday demanding records for how the decision to use force was made.

“While the Secret Service is tasked with protecting the President of the United States, it is not a tool of fascism, and the conduct and operations of the Secret Service cannot be allowed to infringe upon the constitutional rights of the American people for the purposes of serving the President’s personal vanity,” Connolly wrote.

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This turned up on Facebook. Written by someone on the other side of that teargas.

https://www.facebook.com/gini.gerbasi/p ... 5422089624

Friends, I am ok, but I am, frankly shaken. I was at St. John's, Lafayette Square most of the afternoon, with fellow clergy and laypeople - and clergy from some other denominations too. We were passing out water and snacks, and helping the patio area at St. John's, Lafayette square to be a place of respite and peace. All was well - with a few little tense moments - until about 6:15 or so. By then, I had connected with the Black Lives Matter medic team, which was headed by an EMT. Those people were AMAZING. They had been on the patio all day, and thankfully had not had to use much of the eyewash they had made. Around 6:15 or 6:30, the police started really pushing protestors off of H Street (the street between the church and Lafayette Park, and ultimately, the White House. They started using tear gas and folks were running at us for eyewashes or water or wet paper towels. At this point, Julia, one of our seminarians for next year (who is a trauma nurse) and I looked at each other in disbelief. I was coughing, her eyes were watering, and we were trying to help people as the police - in full riot gear - drove people toward us. Julia and her classmates left and I stayed with the BLM folks trying to help people. Suddenly, around 6:30, there was more tear gas, more concussion grenades, and I think I saw someone hit by a rubber bullet - he was grasping his stomach and there was a mark on his shirt. The police in their riot gear were literally walking onto the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with these metal shields, pushing people off the patio and driving them back. People were running at us as the police advanced toward us from the other side of the patio. We had to try to pick up what we could. The BLM medic folks were obviously well practiced. They picked up boxes and ran. I was so stunned I only got a few water bottles and my spray bottle of eyewash. We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear. We were pushed back 20 feet, and then eventually - with SO MANY concussion grenades - back to K street. By the time I got back to my car, around 7, I was getting texts from people saying that Trump was outside of St. John's, Lafayette Square. I literally COULD NOT believe it. WE WERE DRIVEN OFF OF THE PATIO AT ST. JOHN'S - a place of peace and respite and medical care throughout the day - SO THAT MAN COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT HE COULD POSE IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH WITH A BIBLE! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!!
I am deeply shaken. I did not see any protestors throw anything until the tear gas and concussion grenades started, and then it was mostly water bottles. I am shaken, not so much by the taste of tear gas and the bit of a cough I still have, but by the fact that that show of force was for a PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. The patio of St. John's, Lafayette square had been HOLY GROUND today. A place of respite and laughter and water and granola bars and fruit snacks. But that man turned it into a BATTLE GROUND first, and a cheap political stunt second. I am DEEPLY OFFENDED on behalf of every protestor, every Christian, the people of St. John's, Lafayette square, every decent person there, and the BLM medics who stayed with just a single box of supplies and a backpack, even when I got too scared and had to leave. I am ok. But I am now a force to be reckoned with.


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"I remain confident in the professionalism of our men and women in uniform. They will serve with skill and with compassion. They will obey lawful orders. But I am less confident in the soundness of the orders they will be given by this commander in chief, and I am not convinced that the conditions on our streets, as bad as they are, have risen to the level that justifies a heavy reliance on military troops....This is not the time for stunts. This is the time for leadership." ~ from statement by Mike Mullen, 17th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff


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