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PostPosted: 12/02/21 7:27 am • # 1 
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There is no other western country where kids go to school in the morning without knowing if they're going to come home that night

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PostPosted: 12/02/21 12:42 pm • # 2 
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A fourth kid has died

Michigan school shooting suspect's mom thanked Trump for right to bear arms in 2016 open letter


https://www.rawstory.com/ethan-crumbley ... um=twitter


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PostPosted: 12/03/21 8:46 am • # 3 
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PostPosted: 12/03/21 8:51 am • # 4 
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PostPosted: 12/03/21 3:42 pm • # 5 
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PostPosted: 12/03/21 6:04 pm • # 6 
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this is a very rare way to prosecute these cases, but I have long thought it appropriate.


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PostPosted: 12/04/21 8:05 am • # 7 
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This is one screwed up family. It seems the boy wrote and drew disturbing things on his desk. The school told the parents to get him counselling within 48 hours. Then the weird text from Mom. Something like "LOL, I'm not mad. Just don't get caught next time" I think that was after the school discovered ammo in his locker during a search. Now, the parents went on the run, but were found in a basement of a building. Yet another charge they can add to the list. I'm so glad they are being charged.


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PostPosted: 12/04/21 8:19 am • # 8 
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Parents of Michigan school shooting suspect plead not guilty, held on $500K bond each
The parents are each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter.

By Emily Shapiro andMark Osborne

https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-scho ... d=81525654


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PostPosted: 12/04/21 11:25 am • # 10 
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Parents of Michigan school shooting suspect plead not guilty, held on $500K bond each
The parents are each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter.

By Emily Shapiro andMark Osborne

https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-scho ... d=81525654


Must be why they ran away and hid.


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PostPosted: 12/04/21 11:26 am • # 11 
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they have guilt written all over their actions.


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PostPosted: 12/04/21 8:09 pm • # 12 
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The shooters parents could have prevented this. Instead ...

https://fb.watch/9HS7Q-rXVa/


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PostPosted: 12/05/21 12:05 pm • # 13 
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I'm glad the parents were charged and glad for the high bail. But all they need to do is land in a courtroom with a gun nut judge or enough gun nuts on the jury and they'll walk.


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PostPosted: 12/06/21 4:37 pm • # 14 
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PostPosted: 12/06/21 4:38 pm • # 15 
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only the best


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PostPosted: 12/08/21 7:36 am • # 16 
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A prosecutor continues to criticize the decision to keep a teenager in a Michigan school before a shooting that killed four students last week, raising questions about whether staff and the school district will face liability - criminal or civil - in the tragedy.

Could others be charged, liable in Michigan school shooting?


A prosecutor continues to criticize the decision to keep a teenager in a Michigan school before a shooting that killed four students last week, raising questions about whether staff and the school district will face liability — criminal or civil — in the tragedy.

“We should all be looking at the events that led up to that horrific event,” Karen McDonald told ABC's “Good Morning America.” “And as a community, as a school, as a nation talk about what we could have done different so that didn’t happen. And in this case a lot could have been ...

https://www.wxyz.com/news/oxford-school ... l-shooting


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PostPosted: 12/08/21 1:29 pm • # 17 
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I was hoping it would say "other shootings" rather than "the Michigan shooting".


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PostPosted: 12/10/21 6:31 pm • # 18 
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Mich. school district faces two $100M suits after shooting

The parents of a 17-year-old girl who was shot in the neck at Oxford High School during a mass shooting that left four students dead filed a pair of lawsuits seeking $100 million each against a Michigan school district, saying Thursday that the violence could have been prevented.

The lawsuits were filed in federal court in Detroit by Jeffrey and Brandi Franz on behalf of their daughters, Riley, a senior who was wounded Nov. 30, and her sister Bella, a 14-year-old ninth grader who was next to her at the time she was shot, attorney Geoffrey Fieger said.

The parents attended a news conference Thursday with Fieger in his Southfield offices. Jeffrey Franz appeared stoic, staring ahead as the personal injury lawyer accused school officials and staff at Oxford High of not doing enough to prevent the shooting and protect students.

Brandi Franz sat, often with head bowed. The parents did not address reporters.

The lawsuits are the first known civil suits filed in connection with the shooting. Named in the suits are the Oxford school district, Superintendent Tim Throne, Oxford High School principal Steven Wolf, the dean of students, two counselors, two teachers and a staff member.

The Associated Press sent an email Thursday seeking comment from the district.

Ten students and a teacher were shot at the school in Oxford Township, roughly 30 miles (50 kilometers) north of Detroit.

Ethan Crumbley, a 15-year-old sophomore at the school, was arrested at the school and has been ...

https://www.13abc.com/2021/12/09/mich-s ... -shooting/


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 6:56 am • # 19 
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Sorry, but #18 is nonsense, IMO.


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 2:54 pm • # 20 
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oskar576 wrote:
Sorry, but #18 is nonsense, IMO.

That's only the start. I'm sure there will be more.

Whether or not they'll be successful is another matter (sovereign immunity is a tough hurdle to overcome).


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 3:19 pm • # 21 
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oskar576 wrote:
Sorry, but #18 is nonsense, IMO.


I'm not so sure. Swinging for the fences on the $$ amount is typical. The school *was* concerned enough to call an emergency meeting with the parents but didn't search his backpack/locker before allowing him to return to class?


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 6:44 pm • # 22 
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They should be suing the legislators.


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 7:26 pm • # 23 
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But it was the counselors and teachers that didn't remove him from the school.


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PostPosted: 12/11/21 10:01 pm • # 24 
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Sorry, but #18 is nonsense, IMO.

Not really. If the parents are guilty of manslaughter for making some poor decisions in the absence of sufficient evidence, then the school administrators who allowed him to return to class should be guilty of the same offences and the school district liable for for their bad decisions. The trouble with looking for widespread revenge is that the edges can be a long ways out.


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PostPosted: 12/12/21 7:55 am • # 25 
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jimwilliam wrote:
Sorry, but #18 is nonsense, IMO.

Not really. If the parents are guilty of manslaughter for making some poor decisions in the absence of sufficient evidence, then the school administrators who allowed him to return to class should be guilty of the same offences and the school district liable for for their bad decisions. The trouble with looking for widespread revenge is that the edges can be a long ways out.


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