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PostPosted: 09/11/10 5:54 am • # 26 
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Video Card arrived about a week ago but the necessary 6-pin cables for my modular PSU took from August 20th till today.
Starting a clean install of Nvidia drivers right now. Oh I'm excited!


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PostPosted: 09/11/10 6:27 am • # 27 
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I've been researching potential new computers, particularly Dell's offerings and New Egg (and even Amazon).  Anybody have any opinions on buying a refurbished computer?  Pros and cons?


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PostPosted: 09/11/10 6:40 am • # 28 
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laffinalltheway wrote:
I've been researching potential new computers, particularly Dell's offerings and New Egg (and even Amazon).  Anybody have any opinions on buying a refurbished computer?  Pros and cons?
I never had problems with refurbs. Of course if there's a problem, warranty sucks.
Amazon has sometimes better prices than Newegg. Case in point, my new video card.


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PostPosted: 09/11/10 6:46 am • # 29 
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Are you enjoying your new video card, Jab?


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PostPosted: 09/11/10 7:06 am • # 30 
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Oh hell, yeah! I just downloaded a demo of "Heaven" and it's amazing.
I was very worried that my old motherboard and processor won't make it with the video card. Works great, so I don't have to upgrade my MB and CPU AND memory right away.

Now I've got the upgrade sickness anyway. Damn Sid and his new computer! Image


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PostPosted: 09/11/10 7:09 am • # 31 
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My first computer [a Compaq] totally crashed from a virulent virus ~ wiped out everything ~ no recovery possible without a complete re-do of most of the innards ~ instead of that, I opted for a refurb [a Compaq] for about the same dollars, but more memory and faster ~ I never had any problems with it, and the only reason I replaced it was because I 'outgrew' it ~ I again wanted more memory and more speed ~ and when labor was figured in, that was pricy enough for me to look at something new ~ I chose building it at Dell because Dell was still letting you choose XP [vs Vista, which had been recently released] ~ I think many refurbs [especially from manufacturers] do have some kind of limited warranty ~ and so long as you buy from a reputable source, I don't think you'll have any problems, pic ~

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PostPosted: 09/11/10 7:10 am • # 32 
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It's like renovating a house - you finish one room and can't stand how dingy and dated the rest are and you have to now go fix up the other rooms.


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PostPosted: 09/12/10 8:25 am • # 33 
jabra2 wrote:
Oh hell, yeah! I just downloaded a demo of "Heaven" and it's amazing.
I was very worried that my old motherboard and processor won't make it with the video card. Works great, so I don't have to upgrade my MB and CPU AND memory right away.

Now I've got the upgrade sickness anyway. Damn Sid and his new computer! Image

Ummmm... Jab..... I'm already looking at some more hardware.... he he he...


  


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PostPosted: 09/12/10 10:16 am • # 34 
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Yep, bug bitten, again.

Card installed since yesterday, works great even with my outdated motherboard, CPU, memory.

I'm already researching what I need to get the most out of the video card.
AMD it will be. I don't have the dough for Intel. Thinking of
Phenom II X3 740 Black Edition  US$ 89.00 free shipping
ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard. Got to be one of the top boards so I'm all set for a while.

GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5  US$ 180
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ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO  US$ 120.00 or something similar
DDR3 is relatively cheap, still 4 Gb will have to do at the moment. Dual Channel


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PostPosted: 09/12/10 11:07 am • # 35 
Dual or Quad core? Are you going to go 64 bit?


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PostPosted: 09/12/10 11:58 am • # 36 
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Phenom X3, but I'm quite sure that I will be able to unlock the fourth core. Hence the "unlocker" Mobo. Image
A lot of overclocking possibilities until I can get a better cpu. My current Black edition Athlon X2 overclocks real easy. From 2.6 ghz to 3.0 just changing the multiplier, with the stock fan and fine temperatures.
I might just install my Vista 64 instead of paying another 100 bucks for Win7

Edit: Just installed my 8600GT from my Vista machine into the XP machine I'm using right now. Noticed yet another capacitor blown.
I should have a replacement cap somewhere but can't find them right now.
I'll never buy XFX again. Never overclocked those video cards. Two identical 8600GT with blown caps!


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PostPosted: 09/16/10 1:06 am • # 37 
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My oh my! I'm such a dolt!
All the time I'm excluding motherboards with less than two PCIe x16 due to my video card and Hauppauge TV card.
A few minutes ago I looked up the TV card and it isn't even a PCIe x 16 but a x1 card I slapped into my current second PCIe x16 slot back then cause there was no more x1 slot available.

So my minimum requirement now is
1 PCIe x16 slot and
2 PCIe x1 slot
No need for a PCI slot at all


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PostPosted: 09/16/10 2:21 am • # 38 
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I have NO clue what language Jab and Sid are speaking ~ Image

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PostPosted: 09/16/10 3:53 am • # 39 
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Simple English, dear! Image

Motherboards have various slots for additional components like video cards, audio cards etc.
A long time ago those were ISA and then E[nhanced]ISA slots. They were very long, almost as long as the Motherboard itself and the contacts seemed like 1/4 inch wide.  Image
You can't find them on any regular motherboards since around 2000.
Since the early 90s they were slowly replaced by the PCI slot. Much smaller, and the contacts were about 1/8th inch wide (not exactly but I'm just saying)
They are still in use for peripherals like net cards, audio etc.

In the mean time graphic cards moved from the PCI to an AGP slot. What an improvement in bandwidth that made.
Anyway, since 2003 we have now the Peripheral Component Interconnect Express slot, or PCIe, replacing the AGP slot.
PCIe is of course much much faster than any of the previous slots.
First PCIe Version 1.0, then 2.0/2.1 and soon 3.0. Most motherboards sold today have PCIe 2.0 slots.

Of course there are variants like the full length PCIe x16 slot, the short PCIe x1, and in between the x4 and the x8 slot.
Some motherboards have just one x16 slot, and usually the pricier the board, the more x16 slots are available.
Some motherboards have two x16 slots but split the bandwidth between each other if both slots are occupied. Some don't.
Some geeks want at least 2 or more PCIe x16 slots going full speed so they can install two, three or even four graphic cards.
There are freaks out there running 10 24-inch monitors in an array of 5x2 and they need some serious Graphic cards and the necessary PCIe slots.
Now we're talking "eyefinity". One large surround sound picture spanning 180 degrees for a 3D experience of a lifetime.

Now, back to reality. I need want to upgrade. A budget build it will should be. Got the perfect graphic card.
Need basically everything except the case and the power supply.
I'm toying with top of the line motherboard, cheap memory/processor now and get something better down the line, or great processor now but cheap motherboard, and throw that to the curb next year for something more advanced.

Decisions, decisions!


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PostPosted: 09/16/10 3:56 am • # 40 
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Uh huh ~ if you say so ~ Image

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PostPosted: 09/16/10 4:08 am • # 41 
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Must wipe the drool off my keyboard now...


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PostPosted: 09/16/10 4:12 am • # 42 
I just tell my techie friend what I need the machine to do and how much is in the budget. He puts it together and I do the installation and configuration. I already have enough in my head without adding all those other things. It's good enough that I know what they are and what I can r can't do.


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PostPosted: 09/16/10 4:33 am • # 43 
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laffinalltheway wrote:
Must wipe the drool off my keyboard now...
We should meet for a cup of hot chocolate some time. ImageImageImage


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