I see what you mean. The Byrds, but weirder. LOL

This is neat. Thanks for posting it.

(He's still not Jim Morrison, though...LOL)

Jim was a huge fan. trust me. he would say that Arther was the better of the two, were he around.
Arthur was from LA, by the way. Jim would attend every concert he could.
i am not taking ANYTHING away from the Doors, but i cant think of them without thinking of this band.
it is amazing that Arthur outlived him so substantially and never made it- but that is rock luck.
Arthur was not very charismatic, and his lyrics are very odd. two strikes against him in the business.
oh, and he sang "funny". make that three.

http://www.rollingstone.c...6397/arthur_lee_19452006

I had a hard time figuring out the lyrics. I'd love to see them written down somewhere so I could figure out what he was saying.

(Jim Morrison was all about charisma. A lot of people never really considered him a "serious" artist--and I mostly think the music is a lot of fun. A lot of tension, charge...I'm not sure what he would have managed to do with himself if he'd lived. I'm not sure he ever made the transition into any kind of adulthood, and was in the middle of some kind of move forward or stagnate crisis--when he died.)

Jim was a genius. he knew Baudelaire (sic), Kurt Weill pieces, major works of literature. and he was uber-male.
interestingly enough both him AND Hendrix were big Love fans. and both met similar fates.

that song makes me cry for some reason.

Ok, so it's primarily about just going really deep and vulnerable with someone. With acid rock doors of perception overtones...it's powerful. It's funny--I didn't get that from the delivery. I need to listen to it again, I think.

he writes in a way that even young kids can relate to- but that adults sometimes can't. he is an original hippie. very freaky. the only person i can think of like him is Daevid Allen of Gong.

K, more obscure mac music references. Got any examples?

never ending.� i am listening to Robert Wyatt right now.� you know him?>???
first, some GONG!!!

Nope. Don't know Robert Wyatt either. That's one wild video. It's meant to be a trip, I think--with all the soft lines and mutated colours. I liked the stonehenge images.

I watched the Love video again as well. You know who he really sounds like to me? Neil Young. Which is pretty cool.

interesting association. but Neil is more angry, whereas Arthur is just sad.

i think this is the most amazing song ever.� i am not kidding:

this song moves and inspires me like no other.

That's a beautiful song Mac. I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to it.

So what do you think? Do you really think we invent our motivations after the fact? Are we really that random?

For someone so committed to freedom, he seems really sad...

he is wondering about the whole idea of freedom in this piece. this is his "conversations with myself" piece. there is nothing conclusive in it.

Robert is a paraplegic. his life has it's own tragic trajectory- but he is a beautiful and amazing person- so he is a fantastic adapter and survivor. and a real communist. truly. he gives me a lot of hope. he is totally him, and i love him for it. he is my #1 hero in music.

so, do you think there's freedom from the will to be?

no. but i think that the will to "not be" can override it, and render it secondary.

Why do you think so many of the true freedom seekers end up feeling tired? What is it that ends up being so tiring? The freedom from structure? Or the constant vigilance?

just the stress of being "out there" i think. "out there" is not a relaxing place, for most people. some people deal with it very well. some people burn out.

but for the record, i don't think Robert has changed that much in the last 30 years. he is pretty much the same wildly creative guy he always has been.

i have been a Wyatt fan for ages- but i know a lot more about him biographically than most artists, because i find him interesting.

when he was paralyzed in a fall, Pink Floyd held a benefit concert for him.
he lives in a little shack in the country with his common law wife.
he is very well read, and a lover of jazz- especially Monk (who i also love).
he is completely secular, and regards his musical heroes the way most others regard saints.
he is a died in the wool socialist/communist. he writes flattering songs about Che and Stalin.
he is constantly exploring musically. no two albums of his are the same.
he shows no bitterness or resentment for having lost his legs. his wife said she has never heard him utter a word about it, or shed a tear about it.
he has worked with all sorts of luminaries in the British Pop scene, including Paul Weller (guitarist from the Jam) and Elvis Costello.

i could go on and on, but instead i am just going to start a thread for you......